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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-07 19:06 [#01967169]
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After taking a break from school--being kicked out of High School some years ago, that is--I've decided to take a another shot at it and enrolled in college (university, I suppose, for the English and Euros). Today ends the second week of courses and I have to say that I feel underwhelmed about it all.
There is no awe, no aura of enlightenment in the atmosphere. It seems that I have traveled back in time to my teenage years of education. I fear that I will still be working pathetic, manual labor jobs for the rest of my life no matter the degree I may receive, if any at all. Although, the left over financial aid will help purchase a car and new computer among other things, I'll have to pay it all back since it's a loan.
Is there anyone else who has gone through college/university only to regret it later?
Does it really make a difference?
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-07 19:12 [#01967171]
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it appears to be a mixed bag, but from my experience university is whatever you make of it - the more you put in, the more you get out.
however, if the institution you're attending is poor it's very hard to get anything out of the degree.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-07 20:49 [#01967224]
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That loan will accumulate interest. For me college was almost exactly as shitty as high school. Maybe only slightly better only because people were older. In fact, there was an awesome library there... and quite ironically the whole institution was basically a thing very much in my way of my interest in learning by reading books in this library (by sapping up time with their rediculously pointless homework/assignments/memorizing crap/etc). It was also terribly designed time-efficiency-wise because you pretty much have to have hour or more gaps between classes. I remember the biology class/teacher/assignments having absolutely no concept of pedagogy. It was entirely based on memorizing the names of biological terms... is this a study of biology or vocabulary/language? Every time tests based on memorizing (almost all of them) come up, I just use mnemonics, pretty much ace it (though sapping up my memory for this redundant purpose) then forget everything soon since it is indeed useless. Also these biology teachers have no respect for the very thing they are teaching. Required animal dissecting, trips to this room upstairs with all of these animals in very confined spaces like this one poor snapping turtle or something. I bet if there even is an evolution course, it is almost entirely based on 'religion vs evolution'.
The internet and such can so obviously make physical school obsolete. I still don't know the purpose of teachers when the people who write the books are the teachers.
You probably at least need a high school diploma for most jobs (I wouldn't be surprised if many places didn't actually check up on you if you lied actually). You might want to base your college around your job only. Figure out/research your job first; you might not need college.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-09-07 20:53 [#01967225]
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School is for squares.
I personally wouldnt got to a 4 year (or more) college, and then have to pay loans, that would suck.
If you think you need 4 years, do the Military or 2 years gets us by just fine.
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-V-
from Ensenada Drive on 2006-09-07 21:28 [#01967237]
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wMw pretty much covered my opinion of the whole thing. I spent 5 years in college--3 different colleges and changed my major 5 or so different times. First college was the best but I had an insane room-mate and bailed after less than a week. Second college was this horrible 2 year tech school where every class started with them teaching how to use the computer's mouse... even more frightening considering I was taking required courses for a CS degree. Third college I spent 4 years at and graduated, but it wasn't challenging at all, and I don't feel that I got all that much out of it. Sometimes I think it's my fault that I didn't learn as much as I could have. I could have gone through all of the subjects in detail on my own, and researched as far as I wanted--I also had access to a huge library--but the whole thing thing was just really depressing. It was difficult to get interesting classes when I had to worry about taking the required foundation courses that were completely uninteresting along with the appropriate classes for my major so that I could graduate in a decent time frame (classes were staggered so that you had to take certain ones certain semestres or you'd get stuck for a year waiting for part II to come back around). I'm not really sure if I regret going or not. I do have a degree to add to my resume (even if it's in something I'm not interested in that much), but I also have $40,000 in loans to pay back. I'm not sure it was worth that.
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thatne
from United States on 2006-09-07 21:46 [#01967239]
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theoretically if i were you and i could afford tuition and especially room & board id try to just appreciate it for the tradition, the architecture, and the plentiful access to young ladies.
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oyvinto
on 2006-09-07 22:11 [#01967247]
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The internet and such can so obviously make physical school
obsolete. I still don't know the purpose of teachers when the people who write the books are the teachers.
There is no awe, no aura of enlightenment in the atmosphere.
It seems that I have traveled back in time to my teenage years of education. I fear that I will still be working pathetic, manual labor jobs for the rest of my life no matter the degree I may receive, if any at all. Although, the left over financial aid will help purchase a car and new
computer among other things, I'll have to pay it all back since it's a loan.
That loan will accumulate interest. For me college was almost exactly as shitty as high school. Maybe only slightly
better only because people were older. In fact, there was an
awesome library there... and quite ironically the whole institution was basically a thing very much in my way of my
interest in learning by reading books in this library (by sapping up time with their rediculously pointless homework/assignments/memorizing crap/etc). It was also terribly designed time-efficiency-wise because you pretty much have to have hour or more gaps between classes. I remember the biology class/teacher/assignments having absolutely no concept of pedagogy. It was entirely based on
memorizing the names of biological terms... is this a study
of biology or vocabulary/language? Every time tests based on
memorizing (almost all of them) come up, I just use mnemonics, pretty much ace it (though sapping up my memory for this redundant purpose) then forget everything soon since it is indeed useless. Also these biology teachers have
no respect for the very thing they are teaching. Required animal dissecting, trips to this room upstairs with all of these animals in very confined spaces like this one poor snapping turtle or something. I bet if there even is an evolution course, it is almost entirely based on 'religion vs evolution'.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2006-09-07 22:16 [#01967249]
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start a business
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-09-08 12:00 [#01967492]
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It does seem like it's not forr you. I dabbled in college this, job that, bit morre education, but it didn't lead anywherre but back to manual laborr. If you want to make the verry most of Uni then you have to be therre yearrs and yearrs and rreally want to be therre at the same time.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-08 12:11 [#01967500]
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I left after A-levels and have considered going to uni since, but I like earning money too much. And I hate "alternative" student culture. I have an okay paid, easy to do office job, where I manage to save half my wages (until I move out again of course.) I'm lazy academically as well, I got a B for english language, but concerning the finer points of grammar and the history of the language, I have almost forgotten it all.
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-09-08 12:16 [#01967505]
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Something I can't do, save. I'm always left with nothing, infact below nothing. I'm in debt.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-08 12:45 [#01967522]
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I blew all my money living away from home with students. I had a cheap lifestyle/low rent but blew all my money on booze and drugs. I hate being in debt I was £500 overdrawn when I came back home to live, and that was cleared in a couple of months.
My trick to save money is just to stay in all the time and don't spend more than two quid a day on lunch.
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-09-08 12:50 [#01967525]
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I have dirrect debits drraining my account and by the time I've spent most days of the week drrinking at the pub, I'm fucked again.
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-09-08 12:53 [#01967527]
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Having said that, I don't carre.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-08 12:53 [#01967528]
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Yeah, this is why I'm reluctant to go to uni, debts and shit.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-08 23:01 [#01967816]
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Hmm. There doesn't seem to be much to look forward to. But I think I'll stick it out for at least two semesters. It just seems to me that if you're not already gifted at something then maybe college isn't worth it. Maybe I'm intimidate or something.
thatne - Yeah, lots of young ladies working their tight asses into all kind of contortions. Oh, god...
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-09-08 23:12 [#01967818]
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Doing higher education shouldn't be about making more money. Knowledge is fun by itself. To be honest you'ld have more laughs and job satisfaxtion being a good plumber.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-09-09 06:48 [#01967942]
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I like college. Its like putting off your life.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-09-09 06:54 [#01967944]
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lol but you/your parents, someone will have to pay later.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-09-09 06:55 [#01967945]
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that being said
drop out of school sell drugs and become a prostitute
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big
from lsg on 2006-09-09 07:15 [#01967948]
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there's like different groups of students..
mr brazil: i always assumed you'll get better jobs though. it's the first thing they look at in your resume
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thodob
from Bergen (Norway) on 2006-09-09 08:13 [#01967969]
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i have been reading a phd thesis today concerning the norwegian plastic waste management system and extended producer responsibility. Awesome
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2006-09-09 08:28 [#01967976]
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I've been at the university for more or less 10 years. Finally through, and I know that I'm never gonna regret one single day.
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Moot
from Antarctica on 2006-09-09 18:19 [#01968276]
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I'm doing a bioengineering major and plan to keep going in neuroscience.
It'll pay off, but it doesn't have to: it's a passion for me.
That said, the more time passes, the more college degrees are required.
It's only as good as you make it. Get in, get out, get done.
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-09-09 19:17 [#01968295]
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oh boy..enlightenment is just a word. dont stink with it.
ask to yourself.what i want to do? . . what i would like to do,to make me feel good?
(...afirmate YO MEREZCO TRABAJAR EN LO QUE ME GUSTA...que nos tienen enseñados a no merecer abundancia siendo libres de corazon.=)
and then i will got money to make things!! life is easy... what is my essence?...
i think university is allright,but like in the internet,you got know how to live it.
it is evident that we lived now in a shadow era,but the lights keeps ALWAYS on!.
dont reflect your pains in the world or this will gonna put you down,cos mayority people are afraid and confusing.The ignorance!!!..heheee
you! do the right thing.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-10 00:01 [#01968382]
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me and my art teacher
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-09-10 02:18 [#01968402]
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so which one's you?
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-09-10 08:52 [#01968488]
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lol !!!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-10 10:05 [#01968524]
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I am one of the crabs in the genital region.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-10 22:09 [#01968781]
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As always Falito, your words are wise. Gracias mi amigo.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-11 05:31 [#01968878]
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my total debts will only be about £12000. seems really big and scary now but with a half-decent job it shouldnt be all that hard to get rid of. or i can just emigrate and run away from it.
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