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offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-09-14 16:03 [#01970850]
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Well, have low aspirations then.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-09-14 16:04 [#01970852]
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is that what your father told you?


 

offline staz on 2006-09-14 16:10 [#01970855]
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they're very neutral motifs, which is fine, but for a crowd
of xlters it might be a tad tame, y'know.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-09-14 16:17 [#01970860]
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If you're going to do something, but there's no niche for
you at all, and you're not making any sort of interesting
aesthetic statement, then why fucking bother? Aim higher.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-09-14 16:24 [#01970863]
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i will! i'm only just starting out. in a year i will be
starting a photography degree after i have finished my art
foundation. i'm sure at that time i will find
myself.

obviously though i made a woefully fatal error advertising
on xlt. i will never make that mistake again unless it's
more "intellectual" and "niche", for all you edgy
individuals.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-09-14 16:24 [#01970864]
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yeah i know. lesson learned. they're shit. move on


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-09-14 16:30 [#01970867]
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offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-09-14 16:33 [#01970869]
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an 18 year old selling prints on deviant art. get fucking
real. real being making prints for friends and family free
of charge.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-09-14 16:35 [#01970871]
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i do that too


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-09-14 16:37 [#01970873]
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then you just lost any potential buyers.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-09-14 16:39 [#01970875]
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k i've had enough


 

offline leonid_olusegun from outside your window on 2006-09-14 16:52 [#01970887]
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mate, dont give up! its too easy to criticise sometimes.
some of the comments here have been way too sensational.
its tough but your young, just keep at it. if you enjoy it
then what else matters?


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-09-14 17:00 [#01970897]
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thank you :)


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-09-14 18:24 [#01970931]
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yeah this is actually going quite far, Im surprised how
offensive people can be about pictures which they dont even
dislike


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-09-14 18:39 [#01970938]
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the firrst perrson to be offensive was Raz0rBlade_uk.

in this instance therre was only a few ways this thrread
could have turrned out.
eitherr everryone is too shy to rreply and it keeps getting
bumped "anybody?" "i've added two morre picturres" "i don't
know why i botherr"
orr a bunch of people who eitherr know Raz0rBlade_uk frrom
MSN orr people who've forrmed some kind of you scrratch my
back i scrratch yourr back XLT frriendship with him rreply
"oh they'rre rreally grreat man" "i would if i had the
money" "rreally nice" "grreat arrtworrk", which is of fuck
all use to anyone especially Raz0rBlade_uk who'll wind up a
photogrrapherr equivalent to those fat ugly birrds on Pop
Idol who've been brrainwashed by theirr motherrs into
thinking they have talent.
orr what happened happened. people werre trruthful even if
it was brrutal. not that anyone is underr any fucking
obligation to be anything differrent. but it's betterr than
being fed bullshit. just get some balls, man, and accept
this was a misjudgement


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-09-14 19:06 [#01970956]
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The fucking Conscience of XLT, what are its unwritten
rules?

If someone posts something fucking awful, just don't say
anything (and ignore their "bumps")

If someone posts something mediocre, say "Cool mate, try a
different snare / slightly crop the picture on the right",
but offer no more.

If someone posts anything good, ignore it, because it
confuses you.



 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-09-14 19:06 [#01970957]
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I followed up to Dannn_ accidently again! WHY? I'm getting
on my own nerves keep doing that.


 

offline Mr Brazil from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-15 00:58 [#01971106]
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Yeah, I think swears was right, you just can't compete at
your skill level at the moment. No one in their right mind
will buy those pictures. Sorry. But I think that's the
truth. But keep at it if it's something you love, and
actively try to become a better, perhaps more interesting
photographer. I mean, come on, those bee pictures are
absolutely horrible. I will say that you are at least 10
times better at photography than I am. Someday I'll post
some of mine to give you a boost in morale. And it does seem
that you have an alright "eye" for this medium. Just work on
it, then some more, and then more, until you can post a
picture that drops the jaws of the xlt collective.

Hmm, I wonder if anyone else remembers this other
Raz0rBlade_uk creative explosion?


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-15 01:12 [#01971108]
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Sorry to bump it, but...
Is this one a picture?
WTF is that?

I honestly like it, but seems not like a picture to me...
How u done this?


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offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-09-15 11:36 [#01971377]
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why do you always have to have the last fucking word?

i already admitted that they're shit. i actually said "move
on", and have now realised the error of my ways.

i already said that i haven't even been educated about
photography (i will be doing a degree) yet, and so,
obviously, of course my perception of photography is going
to change. i'm not a total idiot anyway as i wasn't trying
to do anything different (YES I KNOW! WHAT A FUCKING
MISTAKE). i thank you for REALLY opening my eyes to how
catastrophically horrible my photos are, and I agree, nobody
would EVER buy ANY of these, NOT EVEN in a million years.
THEY ARE TOTAL CONTRIVED BOLLOCKS. what pisses me off most
is how you ignore my posts and continue to fucking belittle
me and always seek to get the upper hand. you're so god damn
fucking competitive. THANK YOU. i can't thank you enough for
making me realise what I have done, but please, next time,
please don't be such a fucking whore about it.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-15 11:40 [#01971381]
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you should take it as incentive, really.. if you want to
sell pics, go take some shots where you can actually picture
what you're seeing through your seeker on someones wall...


 

offline aphextriplet from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-15 11:40 [#01971383]
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why is everyone being such a cunt? If you don't like them,
there's no need to be so explicit.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-09-15 11:41 [#01971384]
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"you should take it as incentive"

trust me. i have.


 

offline aphextriplet from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-15 11:43 [#01971387]
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aren't you supposed to be in a prison with a dick up your
arse for kiddy fiddling or something?

[just what i heard]


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-15 12:14 [#01971441]
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good

also, remember that even when you're good at something,
maybe technically, you're still going to get 90% crap
output. take this chick, for instance. Now, I
can't stand her.. she's a nauseating little feminist, but
she's got some skills on the photography. Unfortunately,
she, as many others, is too uncritical of her own work, so
90% of the pics on her page, though technically good, etc,
are still wank.. I also do this on occasion with my music,
but I also keep on reminding myself to delete the shit music
(there may be split opinions on this, hi hi he he ha ha)..
also I do not try to sell my music, which requires an even
higher degree of self-scrutiny.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-15 12:15 [#01971443]
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I'm not sure scrutiny was the right word, but you get the
gist.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-09-15 12:23 [#01971448]
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i completely understand, and trust me when i say, i am
changed. my initial mistake was spamming on xlt (cardinal
sin). if it was money i was after then i should have posted
on some shit forum full of idiots or something (not even
expecting that they'd buy my crap anyway). i do genuinley
want to be more creative with my photography now.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-15 12:26 [#01971451]
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nah, you can spam xlt, just be prepared for old men who
don't like other people having fun

"GET THE HELL OUDDA MY YARD DAMNED KIDS!"


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-09-15 12:30 [#01971452]
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haha! yes, for they thrive on shattered dreams and desperate
tears of misfortune


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2006-09-15 12:40 [#01971459]
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That bee. that particular kind of bee/wasp/whatever. You
ever been stung by one of those motherfuckers? Hurts like
shit.

I didn't want to see that picture. X(


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2006-09-15 12:40 [#01971461]
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You've got good stuff though. I've just recently started
updating my blog again, now that I've been online after a
long recession.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-09-15 16:09 [#01971591]
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why not, though?

the more time you spend making stuff (in whatever field,
music, writing, photography, etc.), the more feedback you
get - the more you'll appreciate an upfront, honest
approach. it saves time on everybody's part and you can
actually learn from it, which is possible too from the
"vaseline-y" approach, but it takes a lot longer, and you'll
both be aware that you're doing a "luvvy-luvvy" dance
anyway, so why bother?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-09-15 16:10 [#01971592]
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to be fair, Carl really is one of the least competitive
persons on the board. that's just not right.


 

offline aphextriplet from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-15 16:31 [#01971611]
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im not talking about honnesty, im talking about downright
rude malicious comments intended to offend. Im not even
talking about tact.
Anyway, moving on...


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2006-09-15 16:50 [#01971618]
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photos aren't like music

it's generally a bit more difficult for other people to like
your photos than possibly your music.

photos are kinda like ... for you (the person who took it)
don't get all worked up



 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-09-15 16:54 [#01971623]
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I think people were trying to be offensive here, and qrter
if you didnt mean to be offensive I definetly thought you
came across that way


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-15 17:19 [#01971637]
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qrter has just been offesnive so long he's forgotten how to
do anything else.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-09-15 18:25 [#01971659]
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what can I say?

life's too short to be bland and inoffensive.

photo's are crap, you can do better, HURRAY!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-09-15 18:27 [#01971663]
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you know what? I'll try and be all vaseline-lense-y for a
while.

let's see how that works for me, let's workshop it.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-09-15 18:28 [#01971666]
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i was going to make a similarr to-the-point post, but i
wouldn't want to get the last worrd in and forrce Raz0rBlade
to rreply.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-09-15 18:31 [#01971669]
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I think you made the right decision. I like you a lot, Carl!
yay!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-15 18:33 [#01971673]
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yes, because the world is only made up of extremes


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-09-15 18:35 [#01971675]
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I don't think it is, but if that's how you see it, that's
valid!

it would also explain your labeling of myself, which is
helpful. thanks!


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-09-15 18:35 [#01971676]
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Yes, "you can do better." That's a good attitude to have.
I hope you find a distinctive style on your course.
Good luck, mate.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-15 18:44 [#01971684]
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just try, if you have to say something about someones
creative output, to keep it on topic or something

actually, though, what you said in this thread wasn't
offensive/useless remark.. anus, horsefactory and dog_belch,
on the other hand could either have actually said something
useful or just not said anything at all.

what I don't get is why everyone keeps hanging around this
forum (including me) when the only good thing is a snicker
once per six months and the occasional discovery of new
music/member spam...


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-09-15 19:10 [#01971705]
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I snicker alot.


 


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