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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-14 16:03 [#01970850]
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Well, have low aspirations then.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-09-14 16:04 [#01970852]
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is that what your father told you?
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staz
on 2006-09-14 16:10 [#01970855]
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they're very neutral motifs, which is fine, but for a crowd of xlters it might be a tad tame, y'know.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-14 16:17 [#01970860]
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If you're going to do something, but there's no niche for you at all, and you're not making any sort of interesting aesthetic statement, then why fucking bother? Aim higher.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-09-14 16:24 [#01970863]
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i will! i'm only just starting out. in a year i will be starting a photography degree after i have finished my art foundation. i'm sure at that time i will find myself.
obviously though i made a woefully fatal error advertising on xlt. i will never make that mistake again unless it's more "intellectual" and "niche", for all you edgy individuals.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-09-14 16:24 [#01970864]
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yeah i know. lesson learned. they're shit. move on
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-14 16:30 [#01970867]
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-09-14 16:33 [#01970869]
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an 18 year old selling prints on deviant art. get fucking real. real being making prints for friends and family free of charge.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-09-14 16:35 [#01970871]
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i do that too
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-09-14 16:37 [#01970873]
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then you just lost any potential buyers.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-09-14 16:39 [#01970875]
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k i've had enough
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leonid_olusegun
from outside your window on 2006-09-14 16:52 [#01970887]
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mate, dont give up! its too easy to criticise sometimes. some of the comments here have been way too sensational. its tough but your young, just keep at it. if you enjoy it then what else matters?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-09-14 17:00 [#01970897]
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thank you :)
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-09-14 18:24 [#01970931]
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yeah this is actually going quite far, Im surprised how offensive people can be about pictures which they dont even dislike
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-09-14 18:39 [#01970938]
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the firrst perrson to be offensive was Raz0rBlade_uk.
in this instance therre was only a few ways this thrread could have turrned out.
eitherr everryone is too shy to rreply and it keeps getting bumped "anybody?" "i've added two morre picturres" "i don't know why i botherr"
orr a bunch of people who eitherr know Raz0rBlade_uk frrom MSN orr people who've forrmed some kind of you scrratch my back i scrratch yourr back XLT frriendship with him rreply "oh they'rre rreally grreat man" "i would if i had the money" "rreally nice" "grreat arrtworrk", which is of fuck all use to anyone especially Raz0rBlade_uk who'll wind up a photogrrapherr equivalent to those fat ugly birrds on Pop Idol who've been brrainwashed by theirr motherrs into thinking they have talent.
orr what happened happened. people werre trruthful even if it was brrutal. not that anyone is underr any fucking obligation to be anything differrent. but it's betterr than being fed bullshit. just get some balls, man, and accept this was a misjudgement
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-09-14 19:06 [#01970956]
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The fucking Conscience of XLT, what are its unwritten rules?
If someone posts something fucking awful, just don't say anything (and ignore their "bumps")
If someone posts something mediocre, say "Cool mate, try a different snare / slightly crop the picture on the right", but offer no more.
If someone posts anything good, ignore it, because it confuses you.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-09-14 19:06 [#01970957]
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I followed up to Dannn_ accidently again! WHY? I'm getting on my own nerves keep doing that.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-15 00:58 [#01971106]
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Yeah, I think swears was right, you just can't compete at your skill level at the moment. No one in their right mind will buy those pictures. Sorry. But I think that's the truth. But keep at it if it's something you love, and actively try to become a better, perhaps more interesting photographer. I mean, come on, those bee pictures are absolutely horrible. I will say that you are at least 10 times better at photography than I am. Someday I'll post some of mine to give you a boost in morale. And it does seem that you have an alright "eye" for this medium. Just work on it, then some more, and then more, until you can post a picture that drops the jaws of the xlt collective.
Hmm, I wonder if anyone else remembers this other Raz0rBlade_uk creative explosion?
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-09-15 01:12 [#01971108]
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Sorry to bump it, but... Is this one a picture? WTF is that?
I honestly like it, but seems not like a picture to me... How u done this?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-09-15 11:36 [#01971377]
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why do you always have to have the last fucking word?
i already admitted that they're shit. i actually said "move on", and have now realised the error of my ways.
i already said that i haven't even been educated about photography (i will be doing a degree) yet, and so, obviously, of course my perception of photography is going to change. i'm not a total idiot anyway as i wasn't trying to do anything different (YES I KNOW! WHAT A FUCKING MISTAKE). i thank you for REALLY opening my eyes to how catastrophically horrible my photos are, and I agree, nobody would EVER buy ANY of these, NOT EVEN in a million years. THEY ARE TOTAL CONTRIVED BOLLOCKS. what pisses me off most is how you ignore my posts and continue to fucking belittle me and always seek to get the upper hand. you're so god damn fucking competitive. THANK YOU. i can't thank you enough for making me realise what I have done, but please, next time, please don't be such a fucking whore about it.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-15 11:40 [#01971381]
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you should take it as incentive, really.. if you want to sell pics, go take some shots where you can actually picture what you're seeing through your seeker on someones wall...
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-15 11:40 [#01971383]
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why is everyone being such a cunt? If you don't like them, there's no need to be so explicit.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-09-15 11:41 [#01971384]
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"you should take it as incentive"
trust me. i have.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-15 11:43 [#01971387]
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aren't you supposed to be in a prison with a dick up your arse for kiddy fiddling or something?
[just what i heard]
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-15 12:14 [#01971441]
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good
also, remember that even when you're good at something, maybe technically, you're still going to get 90% crap output. take this chick, for instance. Now, I can't stand her.. she's a nauseating little feminist, but she's got some skills on the photography. Unfortunately, she, as many others, is too uncritical of her own work, so 90% of the pics on her page, though technically good, etc, are still wank.. I also do this on occasion with my music, but I also keep on reminding myself to delete the shit music (there may be split opinions on this, hi hi he he ha ha).. also I do not try to sell my music, which requires an even higher degree of self-scrutiny.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-15 12:15 [#01971443]
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I'm not sure scrutiny was the right word, but you get the gist.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-09-15 12:23 [#01971448]
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i completely understand, and trust me when i say, i am changed. my initial mistake was spamming on xlt (cardinal sin). if it was money i was after then i should have posted on some shit forum full of idiots or something (not even expecting that they'd buy my crap anyway). i do genuinley want to be more creative with my photography now.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-15 12:26 [#01971451]
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nah, you can spam xlt, just be prepared for old men who don't like other people having fun
"GET THE HELL OUDDA MY YARD DAMNED KIDS!"
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-09-15 12:30 [#01971452]
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haha! yes, for they thrive on shattered dreams and desperate tears of misfortune
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-09-15 12:40 [#01971459]
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That bee. that particular kind of bee/wasp/whatever. You ever been stung by one of those motherfuckers? Hurts like shit.
I didn't want to see that picture. X(
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-09-15 12:40 [#01971461]
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You've got good stuff though. I've just recently started updating my blog again, now that I've been online after a long recession.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-09-15 16:09 [#01971591]
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why not, though?
the more time you spend making stuff (in whatever field, music, writing, photography, etc.), the more feedback you get - the more you'll appreciate an upfront, honest approach. it saves time on everybody's part and you can actually learn from it, which is possible too from the "vaseline-y" approach, but it takes a lot longer, and you'll both be aware that you're doing a "luvvy-luvvy" dance anyway, so why bother?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-09-15 16:10 [#01971592]
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to be fair, Carl really is one of the least competitive persons on the board. that's just not right.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-15 16:31 [#01971611]
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im not talking about honnesty, im talking about downright rude malicious comments intended to offend. Im not even talking about tact.
Anyway, moving on...
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-09-15 16:50 [#01971618]
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photos aren't like music
it's generally a bit more difficult for other people to like your photos than possibly your music.
photos are kinda like ... for you (the person who took it) don't get all worked up
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-09-15 16:54 [#01971623]
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I think people were trying to be offensive here, and qrter if you didnt mean to be offensive I definetly thought you came across that way
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-15 17:19 [#01971637]
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qrter has just been offesnive so long he's forgotten how to do anything else.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-09-15 18:25 [#01971659]
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what can I say?
life's too short to be bland and inoffensive.
photo's are crap, you can do better, HURRAY!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-09-15 18:27 [#01971663]
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you know what? I'll try and be all vaseline-lense-y for a while.
let's see how that works for me, let's workshop it.
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-09-15 18:28 [#01971666]
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i was going to make a similarr to-the-point post, but i wouldn't want to get the last worrd in and forrce Raz0rBlade to rreply.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-09-15 18:31 [#01971669]
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I think you made the right decision. I like you a lot, Carl! yay!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-15 18:33 [#01971673]
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yes, because the world is only made up of extremes
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-09-15 18:35 [#01971675]
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I don't think it is, but if that's how you see it, that's valid!
it would also explain your labeling of myself, which is helpful. thanks!
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-15 18:35 [#01971676]
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Yes, "you can do better." That's a good attitude to have. I hope you find a distinctive style on your course. Good luck, mate.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-15 18:44 [#01971684]
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just try, if you have to say something about someones creative output, to keep it on topic or something
actually, though, what you said in this thread wasn't offensive/useless remark.. anus, horsefactory and dog_belch, on the other hand could either have actually said something useful or just not said anything at all.
what I don't get is why everyone keeps hanging around this forum (including me) when the only good thing is a snicker once per six months and the occasional discovery of new music/member spam...
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-09-15 19:10 [#01971705]
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I snicker alot.
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