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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-09-03 20:36 [#01964696]
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is what it's all about
its a magic trick
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-09-03 21:36 [#01964701]
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Well, I find good repetition is usually achieved with loops that aren't too busy. Listen to plastikman consumed, and you will hear a good example. The quietest songs on that album are the ones that stay fresh the longest.
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thatne
from United States on 2006-09-03 21:47 [#01964702]
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aphex twin masters this with selected ambient works
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-09-03 21:56 [#01964706]
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no such thing.
change and evolution are key.
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optimus prime
on 2006-09-03 21:58 [#01964707]
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yes, but with subtle changes like in stone in focus and slow bicycle
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-09-03 22:10 [#01964709]
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I'm sorry I will stay out of this. I got into a fight with the DJ of my old Industrial band because he wanted the beats to go" dush dush dush dush dush dsh dsh dsh dun dun dun dsh dsh dsh dun dunna dush dush dush dush dush dush dush" no form of repetition in my books is that good.
not my tastes so instead of being a complete cunt I will leave this thread. :)
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-09-03 22:50 [#01964723]
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im just thinkin out loud really. just that i really dig it when somethings extremely repetitive but kinda not reptitive at all at the same time
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-09-03 22:51 [#01964724]
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ryoji ikedas stuff (especially dataplex), surripere, fuckin sublimit, its like getting your exposed brain scratched with a nintendo catridge
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2006-09-03 23:11 [#01964728]
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usually bits/themes are repeated, altered, repeated in earlier forms with new bits etc throughout tasty trackos
arrangement of repeated microthemes to achieve a macrotheme is a skill a lot of loop heads (including myself) need to pay more attention to/work on
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-09-03 23:12 [#01964729]
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Moorish art in Spain like at the Alhambra is intensely repetitive but never identical. There are rooms with decorative patterns where you try to find two decorative elements the same and you can't - they're all deliberately different, but similar enough that it forms a harmonious whole. It depends how much attention you're paying.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2006-09-04 05:48 [#01964888]
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There is a very good article on pitchfork about repetition.
http://pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/31233/Column_Colu mn_Resonant_Frequency_36
Basically, GAS, William Basinksi, Robert Hood - Minus, and some tracks from SAW2 have the sustained loop thing pretty much down. It is incredibly difficult to make loop-based repetitive music, since the brain just natually needs to be kept busy. But when it does work, its an awesome experience.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-04 09:18 [#01964969]
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AE?
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ToXikFB
on 2006-09-04 09:25 [#01964972]
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music is repetition
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-09-04 09:35 [#01964979]
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acid house
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avart
from nomo' on 2006-09-04 12:16 [#01965193]
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repetition? oh yes - "repetition is a form of change" said Brian Eno on his "Oblique strategies" cards and whatever taht means I'm all for it. For a few years now I have discovered berlin minimal techno (Basic channel, maurizio and most recently Vainqueur) and I really love the meditational endlessly repetitive music... (and a good "song" length is about 15-20 mins!)
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-09-04 12:22 [#01965202]
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*oh boy,excellent metaphoric explication.... excellent Alhambra
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-09-04 12:35 [#01965209]
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yeah definitely, i mean a good repetition can have you aching for much more of it, when you could listen to it for at least 20 minutes....
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