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is there any option besides the elektron machinedrum actually that gives so much control over drumsamples? what about the korg emx-1? is it any similar to that? |
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try the vermona drum synth |
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Korg ER-1 is a very good buy, but I expect you'd use your Machinedrum (if you have one) over the ER-1. |
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jomox has the XBASE |
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Shit, thanks for telling me, I've been looking for an alternative between the ER-1 and Machinedrum, thanks!!! |
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the SR-16 has some bad ass sounds too, i have one of those. it is a hilarious machine to use |
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im getting native battery. But that's not hardware. So i'll shut up. |
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i'm looking for something rather different from those vermona types where you already have a db, clap, snare and hihat section. i would rather prefer something where you can build sounds from scratch - like the software waldorf attack. |
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they did a hardware version of Attack, called funnily enough "Attack Rack" but i've never seen one on eBay :( i'd love to get hold of one! |
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yeah you're right ! just googled it ! that would be the bomb waldorf is announcing a comback maybe soon |
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i know man there were a few drum machines on my "wishlist" i have them all except for a TR-707, and the Waldorf Attack Rack i don't think Waldorf will do much hardware to be honest...or if they do it'd have to be something damn fucking amazing i personally think that the Machinedrum would be right up your alley though...not only for the synthesis control, but also the onboard sequencing capabilities |
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sadist, what do you think about instead of drum machines, getting a triggered "Brain" and then playing the beats out on pads? |
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what would you recommend ? |
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I'd also like that to be honest. There are 4 synth parts on the ER-1 that can be whatever you like. Maybe modular is the way to go for you. It may be expensive, but you'll get a lot out of it. |
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isn't the emx-1 better then ? what about the em-1 ? oh - i found something really crative and interesting: maybe it's not that much programable but this fm synthesis sounds really fresh and awesome. have to ebay one |
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quite awesome |
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I might be buying the va version of that synth in the next couple days. |
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Oh yeah, carefull with those on ebay. The synth card gets pulled out by people regularly, because it can be used in another yamaha synthesizer. You can still use it as a drum machine, but it won't do the fm. If you find one BIN for under $200, don't buy it. |
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The EMX-1 is better, but about £300 more than the ER-1. If you only need drums, try both, but you'll probably be going with the ER-1 in the end. The EM-1 is pretty much crap if you're looking at buying an EMX. |
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could you maybe record me some of your home baked beats ? some crazy ones just to see what's this one capable off |
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K, will do tomorrow. I know Orbital and John Foxx use it. |
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you know i just want something that isn't just a 909/808 clone. those stupid dance sounds really piss me off. i'm searching for something really fresh ! but the elektron one is much too expensive for me i have to admit. i would take a dx 200 at once if there would be any on ebay or anywhere. |
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i have a yamaha ry-30, an alesis hr-16b, and an akai xr-10. they're all great and cheap on ebay. |
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Uggg. Korg gear just sounds cheap. |
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This is what you need mang |
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if you're willing to lay down as much $ as for an elektron sps-1, then I would go for a good Roland, TD-12 electronic drum set... or go with DDRUM triggers and pads :) |
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The ER-1 has 909 hi-hat crash and clap samples, but the rest is up to you. It can do all the 909/808 sounds but it can do shitloads more too. |
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as i said - i just need a nice box that gives me a lot of control over the sound. i don't need big polyphony or multitimbral. i just want to be able to change every option in the sound, use different modeling methods maybe, modulations and so on. futureimage have you forgotten about me ? ;D |
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what about my samples dude ? :> |
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show me some lcc style mashup on your er1 :P |
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For IDM, I think you should stick to your laptop or whatever. The ER-1's best for electro and stuff, as demoed above, but I haven't really tried IDM. There's some DnB patterns on there, and I know you can get some more clicky sounds out of the ER-1, so you may be able to do something, I dunno. If you want to d/l it, go then music at the top, and the demo's the first track. Hope that gives you a good choice. BTW, the demo above is of the ER-1 Mk1. I don't remember there being any difference between the Mk1 and the Mk2, apart from the Mk2 is a lot redder and the preset patterns are different. |
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If you've got the time and the money and the effort, you might want these instead: Get about 6 drum modules from the first 3 and a sequencer and then you've got yourself a very very tasty drum synth. |
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Man, I could build that myself now I've seen the diagram. suckerssssssssssssssssssss! |
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too bad the tr707 can't trigger the novation drums by hardware, but i know the sr16 can. |
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No, it's quite easy. Ignore the schematics, they overcomplicate things. Look at the PCB and it's a lot lot simpler, trust me. |
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Er-1 is good, quite a "soft" sound, it's mainly synthesis based, only samples are hats, claps and cymbal. The syntheseis engine is simple but surprisingly versatile (extremely poky lfos and mental delays), I use it for deep bass, glitch sounds and fucking up stuff through the audio ins. |
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yeah, if you just look at the board, its not difficult to get the bits and solder them on like a lot of these kits you can buy. The schematics are only of use to you if the thing doesnt work and you need to fault find it. The sequencer is horrible. a 4017 based sequencer is pants. you could code up a pic microcontroller to do the same but with memories and midi and that would be ace. The circuit would have virtually no extra components adding either. |
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But I can't be bothered to program PICs. |
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Also, what I like about synth DIY is how it's imperfect. If you get a slightly not-quite-correct sawtooth waveform, then that's great, use it all the time. I can't see the point in synth clones at all either. If you want an MS20, buy one. Don't waste time getting a DIY synth to sound exactly like an MS20. |
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