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offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-08-20 17:32 [#01957312]
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by setting yourself goals you're setting yourself up for
disappointment. the promise (from the media) however, never
lives up to the rose tinted expectations. and i guess it
makes sense. a life based around money is always going to be
empty. money itself is superficial and two-dimensional


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2006-08-20 17:32 [#01957313]
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That's sad. Oh well. It's only lust if that's all you are
after. I had a long distance relationship with a girl that
wasn't just lust. I was robbing from her as well.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-20 17:36 [#01957316]
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ha! always the gent, our Lee.

re your first point though, it's certainly not, but we're
both tied to things in our respective countries, and i think
we're both too logical about everything..

anyways, she wouldn't be able to live with me. i smoke too
much and it hurts her lungs :/


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-08-20 17:40 [#01957318]
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And you rob from me. And my heroin habit bothers you.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-21 06:48 [#01957455]
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i think you'll enjoy studying in leeds. i'm just about to
enter my third year of study there, it's been great so far.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-08-21 07:15 [#01957460]
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Wise girl. I think doing part time jobs when you're in sixth
form is a really good motivator to ensure you will work hard
at university. I've worked some shit jobs; being a waiter,
cleaning toilets, manning turnstiles at a football ground,
etc. all for crap money. I'm glad I did that for pocket
money as a teenager, rather than wasting the early years of
proper adult life doing a job like them.

I have to disagree with what Carl says (I know he was
messing about), if you do well, you always have the option
of "dropping out" later. If you drop out to begin with, it's
much harder to go back to the career you wanted to begin
with, later in life.


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-08-21 07:28 [#01957462]
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fucking students....


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-08-21 10:43 [#01957509]
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oh shut up, everything about you screams 'student'.


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-08-21 10:55 [#01957515]
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Thank you er... Jack? Did i just make that name up? By
coincidence, my brother is doing his phd there too so I've
been to visit the uni and the city quite a few times and
really like it. What are you studying? Do you share a house,
live in halls or commute?

Ceri, I've worked in the same job since I was 14 to get some
money together and gain some experience for any future jobs.
My pay isn't TOO bad. A lot of my colleagues get paid a lot
less merely because they don't confront the management about
it, even though they know it's under the minimum wage.

Yeah, I think carrying on with further education allows you
to get further in life, in the majority of cases. Even if it
is only just where you think you want to be and it turns out
that it isn't, then you have many more opportunities to keep
getting to where you think you want to be until you find
where you actually do want to be!


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-08-21 10:58 [#01957519]
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i'm not a fucking student!


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-08-21 10:58 [#01957520]
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I'm not setting myself goals to earn a huge salary, all I
want is to be happy in my job and to earn enough money so I
don't have to struggle. I'd much rather go to uni and meet
hundreds of new people and learn new things than stay in my
town for the rest of my life, knowing the same people and
doing the same shit, boring job which leaves me short at the
end of the month.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-21 11:27 [#01957534]
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ROUND THE TWIST!
hahahaha!


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-21 11:34 [#01957538]
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student! you have student hair!


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-21 11:39 [#01957542]
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you left out "ARE YOU GOING".. shame on you


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-08-21 12:35 [#01957584]
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university is a huge let-down and it won't solve any of your
problems, but i'd still advise people to go cause its better
than a lot of other things you could do. congs!


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-21 12:40 [#01957591]
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you're just as bad as anus

IF IT'S TRUE FOR ME THEN IT'S TRUE FOR ALL


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-08-21 12:42 [#01957595]
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Maybe it was for you but I know a huge number of people that
go/have gone and about 95% of them absolutely loved it. I'm
not expecting it to solve any of my problems because I don't
really have any. I'm just looking forward to going and
meeting new people and learning new things, as I've already
said


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-08-21 14:53 [#01957650]
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sorry to be condescending and stuff, but you just sound word
for word like me a few years ago. If i'd realised if would
just be lots and lots of seemingly irrelevant hard work
every day and nothing like as much socialising and probably
not even one of the many fascinating people I was promised,
I would have been happier, and plenty of other people I know
too. its not awful or anything, its just not what people
seem to expect.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-21 15:04 [#01957653]
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i for one have had a completely opposite experience. i live
for this life. i love it and am considering post graduate
studies as a result, just to postpone entering the workforce
by a few more years.

why do you think just because you've not had the great time
you expected that others will have the same experience?


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-08-21 15:18 [#01957654]
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mainly because ive seen lots of other have the same
experience.


 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2006-08-21 15:21 [#01957655]
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University is great. My course is the easiest thing I have
ever done in my life, and my loan means I don't have to
work. Life is good.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2006-08-21 15:22 [#01957656]
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university is a very good idea little lady. It can suck from
time to time but doesnt everything at one point. It is mega
important to find a decent job as opposed to being stuck in
some 9 to 5 hell.

you've chosen wisely


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offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-21 15:25 [#01957657]
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"An inductive argument that incorrectly applies principles
of probability or causality can be said to commit a formal
fallacy."

read and learn.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-08-21 15:32 [#01957659]
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im afraid i really really dont want to know anything about
that article and I dont really understand about 5 terms in
the part you quoted, but I rest assured it is philosophical
bollocks and doesnt discredit my opinion


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-21 15:34 [#01957660]
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it's not philosophical, it's logic, which is what all
mathematics and science (and language) is based on.

and yes, it doesn't just discredit your opinion (which you
have presented as fact), it invalidates it. kapow!


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-08-21 15:43 [#01957662]
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im not sure what youre trying to do here, im not trying to
argue with you I just wanted to share something Ive
experienced in case it might help someone be better
prepared. whether it was 'presented as fact' (which is
probably some other boring article im meant to read) or not
I think its obviously based on my experiences but I consider
it valid enough to be mentioned, im sure you dont actually
think I believe my experiences apply to everyone


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-08-21 16:41 [#01957679]
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Dan, this was a thread congratulating me for getting into
university which is something I've wanted since I was
little. You said sorry to be condescending, which means
you're acknowledging the fact that you are being so... just
stop it. We're all allowed our opinions but please let me
live my life how I want and let me enjoy it. If it's not
quite how I expected then fair enough, but let me discover
that for myself instead of making me worry. I've had a tough
couple of years full of exams and worrying, so please let me
look forward to the next stage of my life


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-08-21 17:13 [#01957693]
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I never went, but if mates mates hadn't gone, I wouldn't
have met loads of new friends through them.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-08-21 17:17 [#01957694]
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You know what I mean, friends of friends. I know a couple of
fellas with first degrees that had an ace social life, so
the two can mix. Apparently the key is to work solidly
mon-fri seven or eight hours a day, then par-tay at the
weekend.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-08-21 17:57 [#01957711]
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i really dont think i was telling you how to live your life,
I just wanted to let you know how things seem to pan out
from my experience but if youd rather not hear it then by
all means ignore me, Im not forcing anything on you, and I
apologise if I made you worry. i spent a significant portion
of last night rocking back and forth watching Quizmania on
ITV in a state of paranoid stupor so this may have damaged
my temperament today


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-21 18:49 [#01957733]
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well, made up or not, the name fits.

i'm entering my 3rd and last year on music production at the
college of music, over the otherside of leeds from the uni,
but living in a shared house in burley - near hyde park.

do you get a choice of accommodation? you probably know all
of this already but my advice would be to try to stay, at
least reasonably, near the hyde park area (north end of
leeds, between the university and headingley) as it's such a
short distance to the uni, and there's a large student
populace all around you.


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 01:50 [#01957790]
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Sophie well done girl

Leeds will be awesome for you. I'm not looking forward to
returning to the world of education in october, eugh, I need
to stimulate my brain.

Weeell done from the city of angels!!!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-08-22 02:52 [#01957801]
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Re the discussion between Dannn_ and SValx;

I'd say you both have valid points. There are people I know
who went to university, didn't particularly enjoy it/do much
socialising, have graduated and in spite of getting a good
grade from a good uni, haven't ended up doing anything
remotely to do with their degree, or indeed anything they
enjoy/couldn't have done without a degree. They also have
mountains of debt and will take forever to pay it off. There
are also plenty of people I know who make more than twice
what I do who don't have any a-levels, let alone a degree. I
think a lot of people go to university "uneccesarily" and
that for what they want to do, they'd be better off with 3
years experience under their belt.

I'd say people who see going to university as some panacea
that will fix their existing problems/unhappiness and
guarantee them a good job at the end of it are the ones
that'll be disappointed. From the sounds of it, SValx just
wants to go and study and enjoy it, which is the right
attitude to have, so she's likely to have a good
experience.

As to it being good for your career, like SValx says, it's
not so much getting a job where you're rolling in cash, it's
more getting a job that isn't soul destroyingly dull and
which pays so little you don't have enough money to pay your
bills, let alone have any cash to spend on things that you
enjoy. Yes there are definately jobs that fit this criteria
that don't require a degree, but a degree significantly ups
your chances of getting one.

Me? As a result of my university education, I'm already (I'm
24) doing the job I've wanted to do since my early teens. It
doesn't pay really well, but enough that I don't struggle
and I certainly don't dread/hate going to work each day
(which is worth a lot).

The few times I've been there I've really enjoyed Leeds;
really good nightlife and I think it'd be a good place to be
a student.


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-08-22 17:23 [#01958203]
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Yesssssssssssssssssssssss, my brain's the best. I'm trying
to get a place at Leodis, I'm not sure if you know it? It's
really close to both the uni and the city centre though. :)
I'll let you know if I get it... if I remember.

Johnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnjohnjohnjohn! Thank you :D I
feel exactly the same! Really excited about uni but the
thought of studying again is well depressing :D WIll you
come and visit me? Pleaseeee!kthxbai


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-22 17:51 [#01958216]
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ah, that place looks cool. i think it's just down the road
from where i lived in my first year. definately a good
location you've chosen there, i hope you get in without a
hitch.


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2006-08-22 17:57 [#01958218]
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I got ABB and got into Law @ QMUL :D

CS2x is even more brainy, he got AAA! :D

joy, electronic music lovers are geeky after all!


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-22 17:59 [#01958219]
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who'd have thought it


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2006-08-22 18:00 [#01958220]
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I know!

it's official, A-Levels are getting easier.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-23 11:00 [#01958581]
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whats cs2x doing now? (i beat him with an extra A! wohoo!)


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2006-08-24 06:52 [#01959086]
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he walks around Oxford Street and Kensington with a
megaphone imploring people to repent their poor choices in
music and listen to Richard Devine and give him the
recognition "he deserves".


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2006-08-24 08:29 [#01959112]
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i care because you do


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-27 02:43 [#01960308]
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YEah man I'd love to visit :)

I'm in a Hong Kong internet cafe atm, its packed with HK
teenage girls chatting on webcams etc, mental. I feel like
Bill Murray but without a Scarlett Johannson:)


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-08-27 05:20 [#01960348]
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You're LOVING it. Can't believe you start in october! I'm
there on the 16th of September. I've found out where I'm
living now. I'd love you to come and see me, to swap stories
and pics of thailand and all that gubbins. When you home
babes?x

Jack, do you know anything about Oxley? I think it's right
next to Headingley. Bit of a treck from uni in rush hour but
I doubt I'll have many lectures anyway.


 


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