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hahahaha 10/10 |
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this is certainly worth a bump |
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Street Fighter roxx! Ryu was my fav... Adddoooookeeennnn! |
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grow up |
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Videogames are not for kids. Videogames are for serious people. |
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to be serious - no, most videogames are for kids, even the ones pretending not to be. videogames as a whole are in their infancy. Hollywood churns out more sophisticated stuff. |
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Where's the "i am a children" tridenti post? |
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hm. |
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Could be, yes. But I think that nobody will make me hate them for some reason, because I'm a real fanboi as other grown people are. |
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Funny old times. |
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i miss that avatar |
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Very true. And it's such a massive business, and making video games is so expensive and labor-intensive, that it might be hard for the medium to ever reach its artistic potential. But MGS, Shadow of the Colossus/ICO, Half Life, Mother 3 et al hint at what could be done when you have some imagination or vision. |
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I was replying to Qruiter BTW lol |
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not that weird, as the gaming industry is primarily marketing to the 18-35 group. if you're over 35 and perhaps have different interests than shooting the crap out of something or having your screen light up in every shade of primary colour known to man, you're not catered for. so a lot of people stop playing games, then. I think it would be great if the games industry would be able to have a kind of indie stream going, just as in film. not quite possible at the moment, what with the cost of developing games, but it could be great. Valve is interesting in that regard - by making a game like "Portal". can't be sure ofcourse, "Portal" isn't out yet, but it looks like it could fall more into the 'indie way of thinking'. which would make Valve a kind of Miramax..? |
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I think you should revert back to it. The chav one seems to have filled you with anger. |
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You do get some (although not many) indie software houses; Introversion Software is one. |
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is super mario bros for grown up people too ? |
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but the zappa one was what i wore as a badge of honour at the height of my tridenti-rampage, all that time ago... |
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Yeah I know lots of friends of mine who play with super mario and they're all about 30/35. Woofie included. |
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:) |
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this thread took a turn to the worse.. it was so great. |
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I also still love my good old super nintendo, which I play every now and then with my cousin. I had a lot of great time with this machine, and I still have! |
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That's good man. |
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maybe a few questions to qrter ONLY could save it |
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I mean more in mentality, how it would reflect in their products. |
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them being 30/35 doesn't necessarily make them grown-ups, though. |
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I know, if only you hadn't posted. you had to ruin it for everyone with your morose whining. what a shame. |
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i hope videogames never grow up. |
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Q2qrter 1: when was the last time you made a track ? Q2q2 : when was the last time you made a track and [spam]med it at xlt ? |
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As I turned 33 my vague interest in the odd videogame was supplanted by following the stock exchange, golf, yachting, collecting wine and horse breeding. |
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Well that's true for some people yes :> |
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I once spammed some tunes for him :) |
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it doesn't have to be an either/or question though. fact is, there is a large group of people whom aren't catered for, gamewise. Ron Gilbert (designer of the first two Monkey Island games) made a good point about this on his about a year ago: "This industry is too focused on males from 18 to 34 and everything is made to satisfy them and - in my option - to the exclusion of a much larger audience. Also, don't be a statistics goof and confuse "most game players are 18 to 34 males" with "most 18 to 34 males are game players". In the lower end of that range, I can believe that, but as people (even males) get older they stop playing games. They outgrow them because all that's offered is high-testosterone head-banging, and if the floor of E3 isn't testimony to that, I don't know what is. I have no doubt, like the current movie business, much of the money we make comes from that demographic, but like the movie business, we need more diversity. Right now it feels like we are just in the spiral of a hardcore-gamer feedback loop. They are spending a lot of money, so they are getting all the attention, yet the masses sit just outside the playground, quietly holding their credit cards asking "Is there anything I can play?", only to be screamed at by the anonymous raging hardcore gamer "Shut the Fuck up if you don't like Halo 2". So what do they do? They move to web games like Bejeweled and play them by the millions, but they want more than that, and they'll pay for it if anyone would listen." I'm not saying I fall into the "bejeweled" category and I like a mindless first person shooter as much as the next spotty 14-year-old, but there is plenty of room for growth and development, both in the telling of stories and in finding new forms of gameplay. |
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some people try to grow making the self a bored mind. some people enjoy drivin with supermario Kart =) |
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A2obara 1: about 6 weeks ago, as a bit of - it's the top one. A2o2 : just now, I guess. |
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some people try to grow making the self a bored mind. what? |
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"videogames as a whole are in their infancy" pah, i just got brain training and my 8 times tables have never been more rapier. that flies in the face of your theory eh? those lucasarts games are timeless, i'm looking out for the new zelda's on the way on ds and wii, windwaker was brilliant. |
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Of course there's exceptions, then and now. But for every forward-thinking Shigesato Itoi, there's 10,000 dorks working on 100 derivative FPS'. It's alright, I love games though. Even the dumb ones. Resident Evil 4's cutscenes and script are the nadir of ''art'', but whatever, that game is so taut it makes me feel like my life is in danger, which is more than any horror movie can say. |
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some people think that grow up but they grow down. (perfect your avatr saying..........what!!!!) |
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doing puzzles as a videogame isn't exactly the new gameplay I was talking about - sure, the presentation is new, but that's pretty much it. still, doesn't mean it can't be lots of fun. |
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that's very true. there has to be someone willing to take a pretty huge economic risk to dip their toe into that new, potential demographic, though. nintendo are into one part of it, but they're on a different end where they'd rather see gaming becoming more "casual" and simplified so that it's easily approachable. seeing more elaborately written and less cliché stories with a more cerebral approach to the gameplay itself would be pretty interesting. the problem is that a lot of the industry goes for the "edgy" concepts and classic gameplay structures. i guess i'm guilty when it comes to accepting this as long as they beef up the controls and graphics and mix up the formula just slightly, since i'm totally hyped for gears of war, halo 3 and mass effect nowadays. oh, and zelda, of course. |
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the second post says it all :) |
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best game for grown up people: [= there is no better game in the world.] |
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