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SteveWardale
from Lincoln (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-09 18:38 [#00118876]
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Does anyone have any VST/DirectX/EXE synths that sound simmilar to what AFX uses?
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-03-09 19:02 [#00118890]
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Go to www.buzzmachines.com you can download lot of free ones for a trackerprogram called "buzz"
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Dialect Falx
from New Bern (United States) on 2002-03-09 19:14 [#00118900]
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Tassman Modular Synthesis. Why use other synths when you can make your own...
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chapman
from United Kingdom on 2002-03-09 19:38 [#00118919]
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i've never really got the hang of buzz
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-03-09 19:50 [#00118923]
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I've just made a really cool one for Reaktor 3, if you want it you can write your email adres here and I'll send it to you. You must have Reaktor 3 to use it.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-03-09 20:08 [#00118934]
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I'm too lazy to use Fruity Loops to take the time to come up with the synth sounds I want, and too stupid to figure out how to use Buzz or Reaktor and any of those things.
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-03-09 20:26 [#00118958]
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Ophecks: then Reason might be the ideal program for you. It has loads of preset stuff.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-09 20:47 [#00118993]
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It's a waste of time looking for easy results....you need to put in the time & effort to learn something deeply and then the stuff you produce will be someone worth listeing too....
See Eno : and his time in hospital stuck with the DX7 Manual and his subsquent work...
AFX : Knows about music at a detailed scientific level as well as having melodic talent....this comes from hard hard work....
Shit...I know I sound soooooo like someone Mum.... but that's the lesson I've learnt and failed to listen to....hence my current #1 album....
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-03-09 20:51 [#00119000]
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Oh, I know that... my laziness is a huge disadvantage, I love LOTS of cool ideas and sounds in my head, lots of cool track ideas... I just can't be arsed to convert my brain waves to sound files!
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-09 21:14 [#00119046]
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Wouldnt that be so cool. A little box that turns your brain waves into music. Id buy that.
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-03-09 21:18 [#00119053]
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Ophecks: I wonder what your brainwaves would sound like :) You should sing a song about your laziness.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-03-09 22:15 [#00119128]
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I'd try Buzz more, but it crashes after ~10 mins of using it.
Damn this state of the art PC!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-03-09 22:23 [#00119134]
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If I could convert my brainwaves to MP3 and you could hear the good shit I've got in the archives of my cranium, you wouldn't listen to Aphex Twin and Autechre anymore... the fuckers would be obselete... ignore the fact that the music I HAVE made sounds like garbage. :-)
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-03-09 22:34 [#00119156]
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most people can make up music in their head. which is cool. but i once read a quote that said "people buy the art they wish they had made themselves". which is true if you think about it. so if there was a machine that could make your thoughts into music then anyone could make these killer tracks and no one would admire the works of these people anymore cause it took no effort to create.
granted it would be cool and fun if you could do it but it would destroy music i feel. there is a certain amount of respect to be gained by conquering a piece of machinery and giving it life.
on the other hand, it might not destroy art, just change it. maybe we would judge art not on talent but on creativity more?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-03-09 22:38 [#00119167]
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John, how's your hearing?
I'll be content to make music in my head, I'm inept with real-world situations... in my mind, I'm John Lennon's equal. ;-)
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-03-09 22:41 [#00119181]
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Paco: Maybe there's a certain Buzzmachine that causes the crashes...
Ophecks: I think that playing your own brainwaves inside your head is the best option for now.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-03-09 23:37 [#00119276]
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ive got about half my hearing back so far.
by the way i just remembered. dreamstation is an amazing softsynth. the best ive tried. its a stand alone program though not a plug in although i think they have a dreamstation dxi now but im not familiar with it.
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-03-14 13:50 [#00125779]
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look for aphex aural exciter effects, it pushes the higher tones louder and gives that acidfeel with a big bottom
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-14 14:02 [#00125790]
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I hear that METASYNTH is Aphexs program of choice nowadays...
Not know much about it tho...think it might be MAC only...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-03-14 14:22 [#00125798]
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I managed (using a vocoder) to at long last get a sample of a voice saying "what happened that day changed me" just how it was in my head. I can't get the rest of the song down, even the intro. I want a kind of spiralling static effect that pans left and right getting quieter and quieter. Then some BoCish melody.
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doki
from cologne (Germany) on 2002-03-14 14:50 [#00125823]
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metasynth is really great, but i have no knowledge about it, just fiddled around a bit ... i can imagine rich likes it ...
for the brainwave to sound machine:
why would it destroy music? it would take it to another level .... sure you wouldn´t have the work with the medium (pc,synth,sampler,etc....), but maybe you then would start out to control your brainwaves (which is possible to some degree), like for example the teta beta alpha delta thing ... man, what would i sound like after just getting up early to go to work - it would definitely be agro-gabba-hardcore or sumthin´... ;)
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2002-03-15 09:21 [#00126929]
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me tinx dat trying to mimic someone else's sound is futile not only are u rippin dat person off yer castrising yer own sound...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-15 09:42 [#00126936]
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very true...
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-03-15 10:29 [#00126966]
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I'd love to try yer synthz man. mind if i send yu my email?
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-03-15 10:30 [#00126967]
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silly of me. just look in my profiles...
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-03-15 12:32 [#00127050]
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aphex uses <------- this... and also my two olders pics i heard he's big fan of tr-606 and ms-20 but yeah, don't try to imitate, create!
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-15 12:33 [#00127054]
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Best advice with any software is to use not just one program... each one has it's plus points....
Hard work I know...but the only way to avoid that "I can heard it was done with FL" or "they've used that plug-in"...
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-03-15 12:44 [#00127064]
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Hey Laserbeak???!!!
You wouldn't happen to know if one can play any reaktor modules (instruments i guess) on dynamo??
i'm thinking about getting dynamo (don't want to take the BIG plunge to reaktor yet) .. but it'd be kinda cool if you could (ie stuff 3rd party people made, despite it being cheap and such - eg. you and such like??) fuck should really just save up for reaktor. that would be the shit.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-03-15 12:48 [#00127066]
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SteveW
Actually - flea showed me how to get the "equation track" stab kinda sound on fruity loops DEMO! version!!! .. tho i don't know the specifics of what parameters he played around with etc .. but it was uncannily similar (apparently afx uses floops now and then??)
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-03-16 10:28 [#00128274]
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Korben: Unfortunately Dynamo can only load a few standard instruments. Fortunately NI will release "Reaktor Session" which can load "user" instruments...
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Raintube
from Gods Armpit (United States) on 2002-03-16 12:36 [#00128318]
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images of analogues
http://machines.hyperreal.org/winky/0047.html?Winky
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Murray
from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-16 14:53 [#00128348]
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Aphex equipment: Power PC Roland SH-101 Synthesizer Roland TB-303 Bass Line Synthesizer Roland TR-606 Drum Machine Roland TR-707 Drum Machine Roland TR-727 Drum Machine Roland TR-808 Drum Machine Roland TR-909 Drum Machine Roland MC-202Drum Machine/Bass Line Roland System 100M Anaolg Synthesizer Korg MS-20 Synthesizer I have entered so many topics like this :p lol
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Murray
from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-16 14:53 [#00128349]
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Analog Synthesizer*
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-03-16 23:54 [#00128741]
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Laserbeak: chea' b'o! :)
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-17 00:00 [#00128745]
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Isn't that just SAW1? The only things I've really heard out of that list since are the drum machines in Analogue BB's.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-17 00:13 [#00128757]
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Murrays on with that list...at least for his early stuff...including all the Rephlex stuff - UI etc...
(and forget all that homemade lark...that was kinda made up...)...
But nowadays, he's more of a software guy....thats where all the interesting stuff seems to be happening...
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-03-17 00:23 [#00128766]
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yeah, also, Bog. Rac. said that he only use a laptop.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-03-17 00:45 [#00128774]
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Murray, the MC-202 is no drum machine. It is however a mono-synth(same as an SH-101, without 'noise'). In addition, it has a second sequencer track for external synths. The other one is for the internal synth.
-P
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greengod
from San Antonio (United States) on 2002-03-17 00:52 [#00128779]
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As far as synths i am 80% sure I heard a Juno 106 and a EMS synthi on the Drukqs album. oh yeah and reaktor 3, specifically the granulator I think the module is called, Synthis cost mucho $$$$
$3000 or something, reaktor about $500, as well as the juno. I think wanting to know which synths were used is cool, especially since each industry plays off itself and if you get a good synth you can make some fucked up sounds for fun, hel its probably better than sitting at home watching reruns of friends, and as long as your not hurting anyone to each his own
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-03-17 00:56 [#00128780]
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The 106 makes some nice string sounds. Put them through a chorus and a slow phaser, and you've got instant Incunabula.
-P
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greengod
from San Antonio (United States) on 2002-03-17 01:13 [#00128791]
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Mimicing someone else's sound is definitely not cool. But at the same time there is only X amount of keyboards out there, the trick becomes how to make a different and unique sound with the same equipment, Eno, depeche Mode, Chemical brothers, and probably even Aphex twin have used Moog synths but seriously do they sound alike? For some people not all saying I don't want to use X synth because everyone else uses it is just a copout for looking within one's own soul to extract that something special.Or so I think.
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