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Atari Logic 2.5 is amazing
 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-07-16 13:27 [#01938350]
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i've been reading the manual for this - i'm a complete
newbie to Logic - i tried to have a bash at a copy of
version 4 for the PC, but since i was weaned into the music
world by Cubase, i didn't get it at all.

after reading the manual for the Atari version, it's
capabilities even on the Atari are mindblowing.

i'm desperate to get it all hooked up!

the whole Environment thing seems like it has Max/MSP
similarites (in the sense that you can re-wire all the MIDI
stuff in the software rather than having to actually cable
everything up, you can hook up arps and delays and stuff all
in the software environment)....do later version of Logic
have this capability?

i want my Atari back right now :(


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-07-16 14:42 [#01938386]
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You can do all that with cubase too.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-07-16 16:33 [#01938408]
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maybe with SX....i don't like SX, and will never be using
it...i was taught on Cubase VST versions 4 and 5 :)


 

offline avart from nomo' on 2006-07-17 01:20 [#01938461]
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"do later version of Logic have this capability?"

yes, the environment is still a part of Logic Express/Pro
7.2.


 

offline esaruoho from helsinki (Finland) on 2006-07-17 03:00 [#01938473]
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but heavily limited in logic express (i rseem to remember
not encountering a transformer)..

yes, the environment is VERY powerful. its very
customizable, and if you really get into it, you can pretty
much make logic look like what you want to.. i recommend
looking into swiftkick and other places for logic tutorials,
or examples of CC-LFOs and whatnot.
i cant quite recommend it enough, logic's environment just
basically.. owns.



 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-07-17 03:56 [#01938481]
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Thats strange. Willing to totally change your compositional
environment because of a couple features that are available
in an updated version of your current environment.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-07-17 03:57 [#01938482]
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Just the midi ins and outs and the audio ins and outs and
the midi effects rocks my socks more than anything for sx.


 

offline esaruoho from helsinki (Finland) on 2006-07-17 04:46 [#01938488]
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i dont think you quite understand what logic's environment
can do.
and i wont spill the beans, its just fun to use, and you can
get rid of the arrange window completely and just do
everything (even close logic) with buttons, faders, delay
lines, cable selectors, arpeggiators... and so on.



 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-07-17 08:06 [#01938532]
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well i never liked SX - in my experience it was always
crashing, very buggy...on both the Macintosh and PC
platform.

at the moment my only option for MIDI sequencing is my
Atari, since my PC is dead and i'm never touching a
Macnitosh again for making music.

in future i may end up building a PC just to record audio,
but i think my MIDI setup will be slaved to my Atari for the
foreseeable future.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-07-17 13:16 [#01938747]
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Hmmm. I have never had an issue running SX like it crashing.
Its the only DAW that I have used that hasn't ever done the
big mean crash on me while I am in the middle of working on
something just before I was about to save. I hear it happens
a lot to people though.

I know there are a lot of people on the logic bandwagon.
However, I decided to stop trying to learn every
compositional environment after I learned cubase.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-07-17 14:47 [#01938828]
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i'll admit that i haven't used SX 3, but after messing with
SX 1 and 2 i kinda gave up.

i really wish the Mac platform hadn't give me so much shit -
i really wanted to get into using Digital Performer :(


 

offline OK on 2006-07-17 20:38 [#01938949]
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what is this logic you talk about? what's it's relation with
music?


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-07-18 00:07 [#01938978]
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I haven't tried SX 3 actually. Aparently its pretty hot. I
went all hardware around the time SX 3 was released, so I
never took much interest.


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-07-18 01:07 [#01938991]
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logic is the mac's cubase, kinda, well now it is


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-07-18 04:36 [#01939068]
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Logic was originally for the Atari (the version which i'm
talking about)

Logic was created by Emagic (which used to be called C-Lab)

it came out around about 1993-1994, Cubase for the Atari was
it's main competitor as the commercial sequencer of choice.
As the Atari began to die out around about 1994-1995, so did
Emagic's support for the Atari. and then it moved onto the
PC and Mac platforms.

then Apple bought Emagic, and now Logic is Macintosh only


 

offline OK on 2006-07-18 11:25 [#01939330]
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soooo it's a sequencer?



 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2006-07-18 13:27 [#01939389]
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yes it's a MIDI sequencer for the Atari, and for the PC and
Mac it's an Audio & MIDI sequencer


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-07-19 09:22 [#01939910]
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