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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-12 14:30 [#01936586]
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There are many references in the Qur'an which have been cited as referring to gay and lesbian behavior. Some obviously deal with effeminate men and "masculine women." The five references which seem to refer specifically same-sex behavior are: Sura 4:20-21: "Against those of your women who commit adultery, call witnesses four in number from among yourselves; and if these bear witness, then keep the women in houses until death release them, or God shall make for them a way. And if two (men) of you commit it, then hurt them both; but if they turn again and amend, leave them alone, verily, God is easily turned, compassionate." 1
Some translations of the Qur'an call for the long-term or permanent house arrest of women guilty of adultery -- they are to be confined to "houses of death." An accurate translation is that their husband (or their parent or guardian) is to keep them -- not abandon them. Also, if they repent of their sin, God will accept their repentance. 5 It is worth noting that a woman can only be found guilty if four witnesses testify against her. Verse 21 seems to call for physical punishment for men who engage in same-sex activity, followed by their release if they abandon the practice. Verse 24:2 calls for a man or woman guilty of adultery or fornication to be flogged 100 times.
Sura 7:80-84: "And Lot, when he said to his people, 'Do ye approach an abomination which no one in all the world ever anticipated you in? Verily, ye approach men with lust rather than women- nay, ye are a people who exceed.' But his people's answer only was to say, 'Turn them out of your village, verily, they are a people who pretend to purity.' But we saved him and his people, except his wife, who was of those who lingered; and we rained down upon them a rain; -- see then how was the end of the sinners!"
This describes the destruction of Sodom. Lot accuses the men of Sodom of engaging in homosexual behavior, only to have his message rejected. God saved Lot and his family and killed the other inhabitants of
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-12 14:31 [#01936587]
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Sodom, presumably for their homosexual activities. Sura 11:78-81: "And his people came to him, rushing at him, for before that they used to work evil. He 'Said, 'O my people! here are my daughters, they are purer for you; then, fear God, and do not disgrace me through my guests;- is there not among you one right-thinking man?' They said, 'Thou knowest that we have no claim on thy daughters; verily, thou knowest what we want!' He said, 'Had I but power over you; or could I but resort to some strong column....!' [The angels] said, 'O Lot! verily, we are the messengers of thy Lord, they shall certainly not reach thee; then travel with thy people in the darkness of the night, and let none of you look round except thy wife: verily, there shall befall her what befalls them. Verily, their appointment is for the morning! and is not the morning nigh'?"
This describes another incident associated with the destruction of Sodom when Lot offered his two virgin daughters, instead of the angels, to be raped by the men of Sodom. The angels told Lot to escape from the city before dawn because the city would be destroyed in the morning, presumably because of their homosexual activity.
Sura 26: 162-168: "[Lot said] 'Verily, I am to you a faithful apostle; then fear God and obey me. I do not ask you for it any hire; my hire is only with the Lord of the worlds. Do ye approach males of all the world and leave what God your Lord has created for you of your wives? nay, but ye are people who transgress!' They said, 'Surely, if thou dost not desist, O Lot! thou shalt be of those who are expelled!' Said he, 'Verily, I am of those who hate your deed."
Here, Lot criticizes the men of Sodom for abandoning their wives and engaging in sex with other males. The men respond with a threat to expel Lot from the city.
Sura 27: 55-57 and Sura 29: 28-31: "And (remember) Lot when he said to his people, 'Verily, ye approach an abomination which no one in all the world ever anticipated you in! What! do ye approach men? and sto
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-12 14:31 [#01936588]
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stop folks on the highway? And approach in your assembly sin?' but the answer of his people was only to say, 'Bring us God's torment, if thou art of those who speak the truth!' Said he, 'My Lord! help me against a people who do evil!' And when our messengers came to Abraham with the glad tidings, they said, 'We are about to destroy the people of this city. Verily, the people thereof are wrong-doers'."
so..i think it is right to beat the gay person....
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-07-12 14:33 [#01936589]
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I think it's right to beat people who copy/paste text.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-12 14:34 [#01936590]
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yeah. it was a crap idea.
from a lovely happy tolerant uber-islamic site. aaahhh......
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-07-12 14:46 [#01936594]
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lol
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2006-07-12 14:49 [#01936598]
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nolol
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-07-12 14:58 [#01936604]
Points: 6474 Status: Lurker | Followup to plaidzebra: #01936598
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no, lol
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2006-07-12 15:24 [#01936622]
Points: 5678 Status: Lurker | Followup to swears: #01936604
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not from where i'm standing...
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-12 15:27 [#01936624]
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it wasnt supposed to be, btw
it was on some forum i go to occasionally, and i came across it unexpectadly. scary aint it. the guy who said it lives on birmingham.
i knew swears would like it
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-07-12 15:30 [#01936629]
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Richard Littlejohn would be confused by this. Should he agree with the muslim because he hates gays, or should he disagree because the muslim is.......a muslim?
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-07-12 15:31 [#01936630]
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I think it's right to beat people who copy/paste text.
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