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         |  Ezkerraldean
             from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-12 14:30 [#01936586] Points: 5733 Status: Addict
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 | There are many references in the Qur'an which have been cited as referring to gay and lesbian behavior. Some
 obviously deal with effeminate men and "masculine women."
 The five references which seem to refer specifically
 same-sex behavior are: Sura 4:20-21: "Against those of your
 women who commit adultery, call witnesses four in number
 from among yourselves; and if these bear witness, then keep
 the women in houses until death release them, or God shall
 make for them a way. And if two (men) of you commit it, then
 hurt them both; but if they turn again and amend, leave them
 alone, verily, God is easily turned, compassionate." 1
 
 Some translations of the Qur'an call for the long-term or
 permanent house arrest of women guilty of adultery -- they
 are to be confined to "houses of death." An accurate
 translation is that their husband (or their parent or
 guardian) is to keep them -- not abandon them. Also, if they
 repent of their sin, God will accept their repentance. 5 It
 is worth noting that a woman can only be found guilty if
 four witnesses testify against her. Verse 21 seems to call
 for physical punishment for men who engage in same-sex
 activity, followed by their release if they abandon the
 practice. Verse 24:2 calls for a man or woman guilty of
 adultery or fornication to be flogged 100 times.
 Sura 7:80-84: "And Lot, when he said to his people, 'Do ye
 approach an abomination which no one in all the world ever
 anticipated you in? Verily, ye approach men with lust rather
 than women- nay, ye are a people who exceed.' But his
 people's answer only was to say, 'Turn them out of your
 village, verily, they are a people who pretend to purity.'
 But we saved him and his people, except his wife, who was of
 those who lingered; and we rained down upon them a rain; --
 see then how was the end of the sinners!"
 
 This describes the destruction of Sodom. Lot accuses the men
 of Sodom of engaging in homosexual behavior, only to have
 his message rejected. God saved Lot and his family and
 killed the other inhabitants of
 
 
 
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         |  Ezkerraldean
             from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-12 14:31 [#01936587] Points: 5733 Status: Addict
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 | Sodom, presumably for their homosexual activities. Sura 11:78-81: "And his people came to him, rushing at him,
 for before that they used to work evil. He 'Said, 'O my
 people! here are my daughters, they are purer for you; then,
 fear God, and do not disgrace me through my guests;- is
 there not among you one right-thinking man?' They said,
 'Thou knowest that we have no claim on thy daughters;
 verily, thou knowest what we want!' He said, 'Had I but
 power over you; or could I but resort to some strong
 column....!' [The angels] said, 'O Lot! verily, we are the
 messengers of thy Lord, they shall certainly not reach thee;
 then travel with thy people in the darkness of the night,
 and let none of you look round except thy wife: verily,
 there shall befall her what befalls them. Verily, their
 appointment is for the morning! and is not the morning
 nigh'?"
 
 This describes another incident associated with the
 destruction of Sodom when Lot offered his two virgin
 daughters, instead of the angels, to be raped by the men of
 Sodom. The angels told Lot to escape from the city before
 dawn because the city would be destroyed in the morning,
 presumably because of their homosexual activity.
 Sura 26: 162-168: "[Lot said] 'Verily, I am to you a
 faithful apostle; then fear God and obey me. I do not ask
 you for it any hire; my hire is only with the Lord of the
 worlds. Do ye approach males of all the world and leave what
 God your Lord has created for you of your wives? nay, but ye
 are people who transgress!' They said, 'Surely, if thou dost
 not desist, O Lot! thou shalt be of those who are expelled!'
 Said he, 'Verily, I am of those who hate your deed."
 
 Here, Lot criticizes the men of Sodom for abandoning their
 wives and engaging in sex with other males. The men respond
 with a threat to expel Lot from the city.
 Sura 27: 55-57 and Sura 29: 28-31: "And (remember) Lot when
 he said to his people, 'Verily, ye approach an abomination
 which no one in all the world ever anticipated you in! What!
 do ye approach men? and sto
 
 
 
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         |  Ezkerraldean
             from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-12 14:31 [#01936588] Points: 5733 Status: Addict
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 | stop folks on the highway? And approach in your assembly sin?' but the answer of his people was only to say, 'Bring
 us God's torment, if thou art of those who speak the truth!'
 Said he, 'My Lord! help me against a people who do evil!'
 And when our messengers came to Abraham with the glad
 tidings, they said, 'We are about to destroy the people of
 this city. Verily, the people thereof are wrong-doers'."
 
 so..i think it is right to beat the gay person....
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-07-12 14:33 [#01936589] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | I think it's right to beat people who copy/paste text. 
 
 
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         |  Ezkerraldean
             from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-12 14:34 [#01936590] Points: 5733 Status: Addict
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 | yeah. it was a crap idea. 
 from a lovely happy tolerant uber-islamic site. aaahhh......
 
 
 
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         |  swears
             from junk sleep on 2006-07-12 14:46 [#01936594] Points: 6474 Status: Lurker
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 | lol 
 
 
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2006-07-12 14:49 [#01936598] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker
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 | nolol 
 
 
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         |  swears
             from junk sleep on 2006-07-12 14:58 [#01936604] Points: 6474 Status: Lurker | Followup to plaidzebra: #01936598
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 | no, lol 
 
 
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2006-07-12 15:24 [#01936622] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker | Followup to swears: #01936604
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 | not from where i'm standing... 
 
 
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         |  Ezkerraldean
             from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-12 15:27 [#01936624] Points: 5733 Status: Addict
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 | it wasnt supposed to be, btw 
 it was on some forum i go to occasionally, and i came across
 it unexpectadly. scary aint it. the guy who said it lives on
 birmingham.
 
 i knew swears would like it
 
 
 
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         |  swears
             from junk sleep on 2006-07-12 15:30 [#01936629] Points: 6474 Status: Lurker
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 | Richard Littlejohn would be confused by this. Should he agree with the muslim because he hates gays, or
 should he disagree because the muslim is.......a muslim?
 
 
 
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         |  recycle
             from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-07-12 15:31 [#01936630] Points: 40933 Status: Lurker
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 | I think it's right to beat people who copy/paste text. 
 
 
 
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