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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-07-07 22:36 [#01933852]
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I just got back from seeing it.
I loved it.
I think the most important thing, is that when the movie ended, I felt exactly like I did, when I read the last page of the book... which means the movie succeded, imo.
The movie was pretty close and faithful to the book. Its been like 2 years since I read it, so its not fresh on my mind, to make different comparisons, but I don't think it really deviated.
There were perhaps a few spots of dialoge that weren't convincing (keanu mostly). But it certainly didn't ruin the film.
I think the rotoscoping effect worked perfectly for the film. It gave it that dream like quality that I had when reading the book. I knew as soon as I heard linklater was doing the film, and was using the effect, that this was THE movie to use it on, and it worked.
The music was cool too. Nothing fancy, but cool. A few (unreleased?) radiohead songs on there (I think I counted 4 in the credits... one of which is a fourtet remix).
So yeah, overall, I really liked it. I'd be interested to hear what other people have to say, when/if they see it.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2006-07-08 04:26 [#01933904]
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I've been waiting for this for years. A Scanner Darkly is my favorite book. Can't wait for it to hit the Paris cinemas.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-07-08 05:42 [#01933913]
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1: that's not rotoscoping. rotoscoping is a manual process.
2: I refuse to even watch this movie until someone makes it into a real movie without the worst crap ass silly fuck your ass off effects ever.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-07-08 06:01 [#01933915]
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trailer
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2006-07-08 06:14 [#01933919]
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It is a very annoying effect. Does it mean anything, other than hey-we-made-it-look-kind-of-like-an-animated-
feature,-way-cool?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-07-08 06:19 [#01933921]
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rotoscoping is when you draw animations by first shooting something on film and then you project this film onto a screen with a cell where an animator draws on it.. this movie used a program where you draw certain frames and then you let the program fill in the in-betweens.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-07-08 07:09 [#01933928]
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does it really matter if its 'real' rotoscoping or not? i kind of like the effect but i also dont really see the point of it
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-07-08 07:24 [#01933933]
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it wouldn't matter if the computerized one could actually do what the manual one can, and maybe it can, but I bet that'd require someone to do each frame (in other words, it'd kind of be manual again) and not only the keyframes leaving the program to fill in the blanks.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-07-08 07:36 [#01933936]
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I don't know whether a purely manual product would be better-looking or not (which I doubt), but it's not like they just put a computer on the job and then sat back and watched!
According to them, "for each one minute of animation, 500 hours of work was necessary". Like any painstaking animation, that is.
I really enjoyed it in Waking Life (which couldn't have been made without it), and I can see why this particular plot, and PKD himself, would require a surreal and dream-like touch to it.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-07-08 08:13 [#01933944]
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everywhere I read about it, its been called rotoscoping. Sorry to so deeply offend you.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-07-08 08:15 [#01933945]
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Good to hear that the movie's not a disaster. I'm looking forward to seeing it. It was a terrific book.
(please don't feed the troll)
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2006-07-08 08:49 [#01933958]
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Thanks for pointing this out a long time ago. I remember you made a thread about it and since i saw the trailor i was sucked in. I love how rotoscoping was used in waking life (fav+ movie) and i thought that it looked ace.
I didnt even know it was out already. This is truly good news. For some reason i thought i had to wait until next year.
Thanks for the heads up :)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-07-08 08:50 [#01933961]
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well, it just had a limited release in major cities, Boston, NYC, LA etc... don't know the whole list, but its not many. I think the nationwide release is on the 28th
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-07-08 09:48 [#01933976]
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"hey gois lets make a movie where everything doesn't look like anything!"
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-07-08 10:13 [#01933983]
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(please don't feed the troll)
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big
from lsg on 2006-07-08 10:45 [#01933993]
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hey you're wrong dumb drunken mastah
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-07-08 10:58 [#01933996]
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Oh great, big. Real funny. Why don't you just put out a big bowl of raw meat with a sign that says TROLL FOOD.
Let him eat out of here for a change:
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2006-07-08 11:07 [#01934001]
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Not trolling, but I'd just like to know if there's a deeper meaning to it, because it looks a little gimmicky to me. And more videogamey than dream-like.
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big
from lsg on 2006-07-08 11:11 [#01934003]
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fanboi zeus instigated this discussion 4 months ago already anyway
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-07-08 11:14 [#01934004]
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I think in a way it is a gimmick, but if it works in the context of the film then why not use it - Philip K Dick's novels are almost uniformly about one's sense of reality, and what is authentic or inauthentic about reality and the self - so this kind of not quite animation, not quite live action approach seems like a good match.
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big
from lsg on 2006-07-08 11:16 [#01934005]
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fleetmouse is wrong
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-07-08 11:19 [#01934006]
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I cannot be wrong. I am employing the latest lycanthro-hermeneutics.
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big
from lsg on 2006-07-08 11:24 [#01934010]
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i hellbaron pwn stupid cat
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-07-08 11:26 [#01934011]
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the cat looks a lot bigger than your hellbaroness.
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big
from lsg on 2006-07-08 11:29 [#01934012]
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that's an optical illusion
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-07-08 11:52 [#01934019]
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hoi big have a fist on me
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-07-08 11:55 [#01934023]
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"woz dis man?" "my new movie" "oh"
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-07-08 11:56 [#01934025]
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white wine is so fruity doncha think?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-07-08 12:03 [#01934027]
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(please don't feed the troll)
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disasemble
from United States on 2006-07-08 12:07 [#01934028]
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can i feed the troll poison pills.
like bowman from star ocean
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-07-08 14:40 [#01934069]
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I want to see it. I haven't read the book. Then I can form my own opinion about the movie. What a concept!
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-07-08 16:00 [#01934084]
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i saw a review in the paper and immediately thought of the zeus
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-07-08 17:12 [#01934105]
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star ocean the old game, new game or the animé?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-07-08 17:13 [#01934106]
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the old one is the only zsnes game with surround sound
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-07-08 17:14 [#01934107]
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zsnes?
I mean only snes of course
emulators ruin the world
or they help build it, I'm not sure which it is
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-07-08 17:14 [#01934108]
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A scanner darkly sucks
the movie sucks so much in fact that it rubs off on the book
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-07-08 17:34 [#01934110]
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(do not feed the troll)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-07-08 18:32 [#01934116]
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48 mb super nintendo game
now, that, ladies and gentelemen, is an achievement!
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-18 03:27 [#01955974]
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out today in UK
Loved the book. Booked my tickets
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-18 08:59 [#01956160]
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48MB SUPER NINTENTO GAME?`!?!
LOL UR GRAZY!!!!!!
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big
from lsg on 2006-08-18 15:18 [#01956385]
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i saw http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0273244/ imdbers can suck my penis because it was pretty interesting
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-08-18 22:26 [#01956483]
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ahhahahaha!
'clue dumpster' hahaha oh that's good.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-19 01:47 [#01956505]
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saw film, loved film, want film's babies
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-19 02:20 [#01956513]
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It's Philip K. Dick, it must be good.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-08-19 02:24 [#01956520]
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anyone with Dick for a last name has to be good.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-19 04:00 [#01956552]
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there's a brand of gin called Golden Cock
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2006-08-21 10:09 [#01957500]
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I thought it was an excellent film. I came out of the cinema expecting everything to look rotoscoped.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-21 10:57 [#01957518]
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i like that the entire soundtrack was radiohead amnesiac b-sides (give or take the occasional a-side and eraser track)
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glasseater
from Switzerland on 2006-08-21 11:12 [#01957523]
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i hate how it does look like, will never see it, Keanue Reaves is stupid and the sci-fi plot seems outrageously kiddy to even bother...
BRING PAN'S LABYRINTH TO ME RIIIIGHHHT NOWWW !!!!!
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-08-21 11:14 [#01957526]
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good grrief.
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