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welt
on 2006-07-03 17:29 [#01931805]
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according to schopenhauer there are 3 basic natural drives which determine human behaviour. egoism, sadism and altruism.
regarding sadism i think it might be true. what do u think?
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xceque
on 2006-07-03 17:31 [#01931806]
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I'm not sure if altruism really exists or if it's just a by-product of something else, filtered through an individual's perceptions.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-07-03 17:39 [#01931807]
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altruism is as real or fake as any of those three concepts. it's all relative and based on perception as you say.
so i think it's bogus, personally. i don't think we can even be limited by three drives - humans behave in extremely complex ways even in daily life.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-07-03 17:41 [#01931808]
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i like to throw a few punches when i fuck, so it's probably true.
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xceque
on 2006-07-03 17:43 [#01931810]
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I dare say that one could classify any aspect of anything according to virtually any criteria. You could just ask easily classify human nature as submissive or dominant.
*draws venn diagrams to illustrate*
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xceque
on 2006-07-03 17:44 [#01931811]
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ask = as
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-07-03 17:47 [#01931813]
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that's my point. you can either take this theory for what it's worth, or leave it. it doesn't make sense to pick and choose from the list and arbitrarily redefine the boundaries the theory is based on.
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welt
on 2006-07-03 17:50 [#01931814]
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well its not exactly about behaviour but about the behaviour's motivation. complex behaviour doesn't imply the motivation behind it is complex.
but yeah. there are no grounds on which you could safely decide what natural drives there are or if there are any at all. its metaphysical speculation.
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xceque
on 2006-07-03 17:51 [#01931815]
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That was my point too! We can share a point. Or maybe we can have a point each.
No, (and this is either in deference to, or defiance of this thread) I shall altruistically award the point to you.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-07-03 17:55 [#01931817]
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whew, this thread wrapped up nicely.
well, now that that's done with... what's next, gentlemen? care to see my collection of miniature ships mounted inside glass bottles?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-07-03 18:09 [#01931827]
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something is wrong with the infernet today maybe.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-07-03 18:14 [#01931828]
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everything was going swimmingly.. and then you mentioned you wanted to learn to play the guitar.
DAMN YOU. DAMNNNN YOUUUUU
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