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I used to think that people on welfare were mostly deadbeats who popped out kids to get a bigger check every month. However, having worked many jobs and realized that life is too short to waste at some stupid pointless job, I've been considering living off government cheese. Is this a feasable way to live out my days? Please consider the many aspects of this despite the fact that you work a dead-end job to buy things you don't really need. Thanks. |
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yeah, not having to work is awesome! |
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vote democrat lol |
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i came to the same realization, and moved to part time. 4 day weekends are pretty nice.. but i'm not getting half the shit done that i wanted to.. |
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you could also try finding a job that is not stupid and/or pointless to you? |
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but then he won't be getting welfare anymore, and the paycheck at that job will probably be even smaller. |
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Find work that is fun and meaningful. Tall order, I know. You are in the states, so they make damn sure you are poor as shit to get anything. I'm assuming you are not a minority and or a woman. That makes it even harder for you. |
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I think realistically youd be happier just doing less hours and earning the money you get |
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Welfare is an awfull way to live. They don't give you enough, and its humiliating. Plus, its hard to get off of if you want to get off. Work sucks, but its better than welfare. |
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i dont regret switching to a career in hospitality. im always around really strong characters, people id never meet if i wasnt working. it fits well because my personality has switched from being content with my own company to having the need for others. even if i did want to escape the city and live off the land, that would still mean a lot of hard work and heartbreak. i dont think someone can truly be their own person unless they work for their place in the world. holy persons are no different. they also put a lifetimes work into their cause. |
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Yeah. I would love to have a decently paying job that would enable me to get by on far less than 40 hours a week. Not a lot of money, but a lof of time. On topic, I grudgingly agree, sometimes I find welfare or social assistance or something a really appealing idea, because I get so little happiness and satisfaction from making money, and so much from... not working and just hanging around. But I know it's a bit silly a stance, life ain't cheap... and even though I'm not one to bother buying a nice car or clothes or anything, I do have some rather expensive hobbies. Welfare couldn't suffice. I wouldn't say welfare is ''humiliating'' and leave it at that. I guess if you're really self-conscious. Some people just might not care for the economic pursuits. Some people might want to be angry mountainmen. (and some/most are just lazy slug) |
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(and it's not just the lack of satisfaction money brings me, it's also social anxiety and whatnot making it very hard for me to enjoy working) |
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how is it hard to get off? do you mean lots of papers to fill out or do you mean its tough because you become so accustomed to it. |
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One reason may be the difficulty people on welfare have explaining away long periods of joblessness to potential employers... |
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''So much IDM to listen to, so little time''. If they don't understand, fuck them. You know what would be really awesome... disability. I was thinking of looking into it because you can get away with it with severe colitis sometimes but mine is getting better way too fast. Shit. |
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I'm still fending off mental disability (on account of my illness) because I hear being on that gives you a worse rep than welfare. I've been considering welfare lately. |
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that makes sense. |
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Finding out what you love and if you are good at doing it is really, really, fucking hard. I still haven't found my niche. I would have loved to do something in the sciences, but I'm terrible in math. I tried cooking, I'm great with taste, but a clutz and had trouble handling large amounts of orders, etc.. Its been tough to find my calling. Especially somethign that pays actual money. |
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That sucks, man. What's your issue and what are you doing right now? (the rep thing keeps me from ever seriously considering welfare, I'm lucky enough to be well off even though I can't work right now) |
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a myriad of stuff. i've been getting better but it's latancy is always prone to a bad day here and there. currently i'm not mentally fit for work or even finishing school for that matter. so all i can think of right now is welfare. |
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I'm doing a business with my Dad. If it works that'd be great. I have to learn a lot though. And get my shit together. Stop wasting time. It's been good so far. Lots of hope, but he's old and has all the intellectual property. I can't stand working for people. So I think being in business is right for me, but finding a niche in business is a whole other can of worms. |
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Thoughtfull responses, thanks people. I was expecting to come back and read a bunch of "Lazy ass leech" comments. The tough part is finding a job that you like. I think about it a lot and lately I've been applying at video game places like EBgames and Gamepro, just so I could work at a store and hang out with people who like games and play games when business is slow. Right now I'm still going to school and I have about a year left and I want to go find a specialty school that deals with audio engineering/mastering. Unfortunately most places don't give actuall degrees - just certificates, so I might have to move to a different state to persue a proper education in the field I want. When you think about it 40 hours doesn't seem like a lot but if you really want to think about it, add in all the extra hours per week you spend travelling to work and back, and the lunch hour - which really isn't a full hour of relaxation or lunch..ing. Hours in a week = 168 If you spend 8 hours sleeping you have used 56 hours So really your weeks consist of 112 hours of waking time If you have a 40hr week job, it really isn't 40 if you have a 1hr of unpaid lunch. 1hr is enough time to do jack shit but it really makes an 8 hr day into a 9 hr day, imo. So 9hr x 5days a week = 45hr 112-45=67 67 free hours doesn't include travel time. Lets say you spend 30 min going just one way to work every day. 1hr of travel x 5days= 5 hours So add the travel and useless lunch and thats 10 hours a day of time you devote to dealing with work bullshit. 50 hours a week can easily become 60 hours if your commuting time is more. So right there, HALF of your waking LIFE is devoted to a dead-end job that probably sucks balls. I dunno about other places but 95% of jobs here in the US don't pay you to help your ass get to work and they all like to offer employees only $1.25 above minimum wage to give the illusion that you aren't a lower class citizen. |
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if you add up all the writing i ever did at school,it falls just under your last post. |
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GOD DAMN HIPPIES |
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I like my job. I work in an office checking invoices, filling out forms and drinking coffee for a pretty good wage. Apart from my stoopid cow of a boss, the people are quite nice. So, I'd rather be doing that than just sitting around doing nothing all day on £40 a week dole. What do I think of welfare? Well, if all the people who could work but don't, suddenly went to work tomorrow: They would be paying tax into the system, and not taking any benefits out. So there'd be a lot more money towards healthcare, education, public transport, etc. Or maybe tax cuts. Getting out of Iraq would save a lot of money too, but that's another story. |
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I actually would like to work, but I only find shitty factory jobs |
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I'm a seamstress. it's great, very idm. |
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I think, since there is no masculine form of the word seamstress, I will call myself "seamstror". |
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I have about four years of welfare throughout the years. One, its hard to explain your joblessness, like mimi said. Two, if you are on welfare, generally you live in bad places because you can't afford to live in good ones. Its hard to buy clothes if you are on welfare because all your money goes to food and you can't even afford proper transit. Its even difficult to afford to do proper laundry. As well, you get into bad habbits, like planning to go look for work, and then sleeping in and shit. Its an awful way to live. You can easily spin a mental dissability into your favor. Straight joblessness? Not really. (plus, they won't give you welfare if you have a dissability claim) |
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goverment cheese and meat is sexy |
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haha seamstror. What about telling people you quit your job to go back to school? Which is true in my case. Then you dont have to fake a handicap or disability. |
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if you can do it, do it. if you can live it, live it. if you arent. then what are you doing? cause if it feels like a job and not a love..... then you're doing something wrong. I say find out what your strong suit is and play to that... if you can cover your bills and live decently.. you're better then half the ppl out there. I have a friend who lives off of welfare and other means,... he's got the passion to want more from life.. but none of the modivation. Because as he sees it... if he does anything, it'll shake his safe government provided lifestyle... and that means he'll actually have to commit and be something more then just surviving. that said. he makes great tunes.... so i dont mind buyin him a beer when we're out somewhere... i know he's got nothing in his pocket to pay for em.. |
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That would be lying tho. Unless of course you did. But thats just not a good way to go about things. |
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I know somebody who fakes depression and gets about £110 pounds a week benefits. He lives with his parents rent-free, doesn't have to pay for lunches/transport/work-related social events, etc, and therefore has about the same amount of disposable income as me, a full time office worker. (I can afford to live away from home though.) |
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I have been laid off (made redundant) 3 times in my carreer in biotech. 2 of those times i collected unemployment checks from the government. It was pretty sweet. We were living at my girlfriend's dad's house so I wasn't paying rent. I played Counter Strike about 60 hours a week with essentially a government sponsorship. |
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and i never felt humiliated when i was sucking from the gov't teet either. i felt powerful and deadly because i was so good at Counter Strike. you could say that welfare made me delusional, but not humiliated. |
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Shame of you. All the other biotech workers were fighting with cops on the picket line and shouting Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, Out! Out! Out! |
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unemployment is different than welfare. in my state, the funds that are used to provide unemployment payments are collected from employers and the system is treated almost like an unemployment insurance. the benefits you get depend on how much money you were making for how long (ie how long you contributed to the system). also, you're required to make an effort to find a job, attend job seeking seminars and so on. on a more general note, in a nutshell, if you're going on welfare and you are not truly disabled, you are a con artist of the lowest kind. you're not taking money from "the government"; the government disburses the money that every other able bodied person paid into the system. you're one notch above the persons who steal pain medication from immobilized elderly people. |
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it's the same in my state. it's not exactly free money or food stamps but it is still da govmit cheese. also, 'making an effort' to find a job, for me, for three months, was really more of a song and dance with little accountability. easiest $300 a week i ever made. |
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my benefits ran out before i found a job. : ( agreed about the "proof of job search", i actually *tried* to find a job but i really didn't have to do much to prove it (though people are randomly investigated to make sure they're following through, you were supposed to keep log w/contacts, etc). i always kept an interview for a position as a latex salesman for vandelay industries on the horizon, just in case. |
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employers get anally raped by the govmit. |
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surely uncle sam is kind enough to provide lube for these employers. |
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In the USA we have to pay into Social Security which won't even be there for my generation to collect upon (thanks a lot Bush). Even older people like my parents are worried they wont even get any benefits of Social Security and they've been paying into it for 30+ years. |
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Dear liberal americans: Relax, you will have another President after Bush. He's not gonna be around forever. |
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He fucked up Social Security during his first term and he still has 2 years to go. From what I've heard it sounds like the damage isn't reversable and more people recieve cash from it than pay into it. |
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If I truly need Social Security when I'm old I think id jump off a bridge. I really hope not though. Oh, and most jobs kill your soul. Over and out. |
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Its stupid to expect the us governemnt to invest money wisely. Just look at taxes like a charity for the masses. |
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could you go on benefits and still have a secret cash-in-hand job? loads of people do that over here. |
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I barely make enough to sustain what I feel my needs are, and the government takes $300 every paycheck. If I wanted to, there would be no way for me to support a family even without the gear I purchase. A good portion of that money that I have to pay goes towards people who think lifes too short, and would rather live on government check sitting around all day watching movies and getting stoned. It doesn't make me angry, so much as dissapointed that people can be so self absorbed as to think they disserve the right to live off of other peoples hard work. |
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Its similar to this. I pay $20 every month to a union that doesn't do anything at all for my rights as a worker. Where does that money go? Towards trips that the union reps go to every three months to hang out and kind of talk to other union reps at various resorts and other travel destinations, getting their regular pay plus travel expenses, accomodations, food, hundreds of extra dollars a day spending money per representative, and a bunch of other fringe benefits. I don't even get paid sick days. That is what my union dues should go towards. |
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