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morphuze
from Denmark on 2006-06-19 13:43 [#01923303]
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Sometimes people write "this or that artist/genre is sooo 2001" (because they want to feel modern and avantgarde?)... but, what is "so 2006"? ..dubstep is "semi-new", but sooo 2003.. what about 2006???
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-06-19 13:44 [#01923304]
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this thread is so 1998
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-06-19 13:45 [#01923305]
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PORN
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-19 13:48 [#01923307]
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a form of arthritis caused by the accumulation of uric acid crystals in joints is sooo 2006
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morphuze
from Denmark on 2006-06-19 13:48 [#01923308]
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no no, porn is so 70's ...and not music...
seriously, what's new (music) in this millenium? other than dubstep?
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-19 13:51 [#01923309]
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I dunno, pop culture has just grinded to a halt.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-19 14:14 [#01923331]
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what is all this dubstep shite? is it the same as grime? is it shite?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-19 14:15 [#01923332]
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dubstep is from 2000
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-19 14:17 [#01923337]
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No, it's mostly good, because it has no defined sound. Check out Burial and Kode9, they're awesome. It's sort of like the next logical step on from Grime.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-19 14:18 [#01923340]
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i'll try to listen to some / steal some when i get the chance
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-19 14:19 [#01923341]
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steal it from a large chain 'cause then it's ok
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-19 14:21 [#01923344]
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Yeah, but it's changed so much since all the 2000 Zed Bias style post-2step stuff, now it's taken on grime and idm influences and come out the other side as a completely different genre. A lot has changed over the last six years.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-19 14:22 [#01923347]
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so now it's really post dubstep?
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morphuze
from Denmark on 2006-06-19 14:23 [#01923350]
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..nothing new since dubstep? ..I'll go to sleep (music-wise) then, and wake up in like 2 years and see/hear if anything new has happened..
..untill then I'll listen to good old IDM (soo 90's) like the new VSnares (Cavalcade..) which is somewhere between "amazing" and "sooo 200x" and "rhythmic parady of himself, as usual" :p
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-19 14:26 [#01923357]
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I think you can find something new, it just may not be to your liking
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-19 14:29 [#01923362]
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No, the word "Dubstep" was describing 2step records with a dub influence in 2000.
In 2006, the term is being used to describe music that has very little to do with that scene. It's more a case of "post-grime".
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morphuze
from Denmark on 2006-06-19 14:31 [#01923367]
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this thread is not about "my liking" ;) ...I just want to know if anything new has happened this millenium, besides dubstep..
..lotsa music sounds "new" to whoever it's "new" to (like, Arab On Radar could be "new" to those who don't know) ..but it's not "objective new", or whatever the correct word is ;)
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2006-06-19 14:34 [#01923374]
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2006 is so 1996
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-19 14:37 [#01923381]
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post-grime classical punkstep dub
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DeleriousWeasel
from Guam on 2006-06-19 14:40 [#01923384]
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Oasis are so 1990s Ibiza is so 1999.
wanking is so 2006.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-19 14:43 [#01923386]
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gobshite!
ibiza was soooo over by 1996 even!
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morphuze
from Denmark on 2006-06-19 16:23 [#01923424]
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The 90's were great.. back then there were like 3 new genres every year ..well, almost
2k sucks :p
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-19 16:33 [#01923430]
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2006 is like sooooo boring, why don't we all be daring and shoot ourselves
Just be thankfull for what you have and stop complaining.
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morphuze
from Denmark on 2006-06-19 16:40 [#01923435]
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wow, who did you quote? ;) that sounds like a good idea :p I'm "thankfull" of my 90's cd/vinyl collection, but, hm ..music-evolution has stopped? (or slowed down.. alot) ..that's sad to me :/
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-06-19 16:54 [#01923446]
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"I just want to know if anything new has happened this millenium, besides dubstep.. "
of course it has. are you from Mars or something ? musicians have been recording new albums for many years now, silly !
this thread is so 2006
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morphuze
from Denmark on 2006-06-19 17:00 [#01923451]
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duh, I mean ; new musical genres, something new, evolutionary ........not like some old jazz rereleased or rerecorded, and then call it "new" because it has a "2006" stamp on it... are you retarded or something? :p
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morphuze
from Denmark on 2006-06-19 17:04 [#01923454]
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actually I AM from Mars and I'm just visiting Earth once every year to check the evolution ... that's why I've only made 146 posts since 2002 ;)
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-06-19 17:04 [#01923455]
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I think there's lots of things, but this messageboard is rooted in a very narrowly defined musical section of the past so it might not be the best place to ask.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-19 17:05 [#01923456]
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What about amazingly innovative, life affirming, super hardcore, underground never-sell-out, smash-the-system bands like:
The Kaiser Chiefs The Artic Monkeys The Bloc Party Oasis Shed Seven The You are gays
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-06-19 17:07 [#01923459]
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you've been here since 2002, you should know all the answers already.
topics like this are pure wankery. good night.
p.s. i discover something new in music every 1 or 2 weeks. i really can't see what your problem is.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-19 17:10 [#01923460]
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WE NEED MORE BANDS THAT SMASH THE SYSTEM. IT HASN'T BEEN SMASHED SINCE THE LAST OASIS ALBUM. OR MAYBE SINCE THE STROKES CAME OUT ALSO THE WHITE STRIPES THEY'RE GREAT AND THE ARTIC MONKEYS THEY'VE SOLD LOTS OF RECORDS WHICH QUALIFIES AS SMASHING THE SYSTEMS ALL TO LITTLE BITS WITH THE POWER OF MYSPACE AND SOUNDING LIKE A SLIGHTLY FASTER VERSION OF SHED SEVEN.
HEY SWEARS STOP BEING SARCASTIC NO FUCK YOU BITCH NO FUCK YOU SEE HOW THESE BANDS HAVE GOT US DEBATING? YEAH THATS THE ESSENCE OF SMASHING THE SYSTEM LET'S BE GAY TOGETHER YEEEAAAAHHH BUMBUMPUMPING AND COCK CHOCKING GALORE O NO NOW WE'RE GAYS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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morphuze
from Denmark on 2006-06-19 17:19 [#01923464]
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Like I said before ; a person can discover somthing OLD but "new" to that person, but not "objective new", like acid-house were new in 1988, but not new in 1995 when some other person discovered it..
..tell me about the ""new"" things you discovered this year.. (I discovered dubstep, but would'nt dare call it "the latest news in 2006" as an objective truth) ;P
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-19 17:21 [#01923466]
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I don't know why I posted all that bollocks, made me feel a bit better, I suppose.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-19 17:35 [#01923471]
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Things that have been done to death:
Acid House Breakbeats Rock 'n' Roll The 60's The 70's Punk Drum 'n' Bass
Things that still have plenty of life in them:
Handbag House (You sure make me feel like lovin' you!) R'n'B beats Power Ballads The Late 80's The Early nineties Yuppies Two-Step (Come on, that's a fucking world of possibility and none of you can be arsed.)
The whole 8bit thing
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-19 17:38 [#01923472]
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do musicians care about genre themselves? I really never think about, and rather go by what I like. In most cases, this is some form of hip-hop, jazz or "electronic," but I listen to some other stuff as well.. when I'm making music I have no control over what comes out until its finished...
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-06-19 17:48 [#01923480]
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agreed.
when im working on a track, i hardly have a genre in mind. actually, i hate calling my music any kind of one genre, so i make up silly names like 'broken breakbeat ambient drill n step'
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morphuze
from Denmark on 2006-06-19 17:50 [#01923482]
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ohhhh kaayyyyyy, never mind, forget I asked (and I can read between the lines, "nothing new in 200x", see ya next year, or millinium) ;p
..I know all the "genre problems" and that most/alot of musicians/composers don't think about "genres" (or pretend to not think about it) but that does'nt mean genres does'nt evolve.. and it's somehow more easy to talk about music (especially evolution) when using genre-names.. (hm, or maybe not... when reading this thread) :/
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-19 17:51 [#01923484]
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the only kind of classification I do is that if I listen to a track when it's finished or I'm, like, halfway in or something and go "oh, this sounds like [artist name]," I'll tell people it sounds like [artist] and some times even add that artists signature moves to the song just to fuck with it...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-19 17:53 [#01923486]
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genre names are mostly redundant and nonsensical anyway.. I particularly dislike that electronic music is its own thing when most electronic songs would be normal songs within a different genre if played on acoustic instruments instead of electronic instruments.. imo, the instrument shouldn't decide the genre of a song if we were to use genres to classify them...
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morphuze
from Denmark on 2006-06-19 18:14 [#01923491]
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hm, ok, the "casual electronica/IDM artist" could be making tracks in the "timeless" sense.. like "I don't care if it sounds like the 80's or 90's with twist" ..but when people write something like "this is so 2001" that imply that they think about electronic music as being "inovative and evolutionary with a sort of timeline", and that's the timeline I'm focusing on.. (oh man, I feel like I'm explaining something obious) :p
..but it seems like the timeline is not as straight anymore, like it was before 2000..
Let's pretend we're in 2100 and writing an article about "the history of electronic music" ..then it would be easy to describe the 90's jungle/d&b, goa/trance, hardcore/gabber, idm/electronica, etc, but the 00's would be only dubstep/grime? .....and/or something about "post-electronica", like ; "the artists then started to blend genres of the 90's and try to be inovative that way, but did'nt really create any specific new genres or movement"..
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-19 18:16 [#01923492]
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I know what you mean.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-06-19 18:21 [#01923494]
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What ever happened to Speed Garage?
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morphuze
from Denmark on 2006-06-19 18:36 [#01923504]
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speed-garage is sooo 90's ;) and evolved into grime and dubstep
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Clic
on 2006-06-19 18:48 [#01923507]
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The whole 8bit thing"
Ha.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-19 19:27 [#01923511]
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It got more complicated and turned into UK garage, which in turn, turned into 2step.
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benbusch
from Kansas on 2006-06-19 20:08 [#01923522]
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Pop is so 2006.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-06-19 20:15 [#01923526]
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hu hu hu.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-06-19 21:55 [#01923549]
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I have so many questions, mostly regarding your motives and thoughts with this thread and your life in general, but I'll just ask the one question I had first: Why did you title this topic using "xxx" to stand in for a date? Wouldn't it be logical to say "xxxx" or just "x"…? I mean seriously, wtb™?!
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-06-19 21:56 [#01923550]
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follow-up to morphuze
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2006-06-19 23:27 [#01923569]
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but grime when it came out was so 1992...Bug is Kevin Martin...check out his stuff that he done with Justin Broderick and Mick Harris
Techno Animal Some Scorn Shapeshifter etc etc..
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