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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-06-12 12:15 [#01918444]
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ive got a feeling i asked this ages ago but...
a lot of people really like reason for cutting breaks, personally im a bit thick and for tracks where I am constantly editting the break I cant get reason to do it smoothly and I only really get a good result using a wave editor, which is inconvenient now that ive started using reason a lot. When using reason it is a bit jumpy because each hit is triggered according to the grid, unless i go through one by one moving them slightly to the left or right of the gridlines, which is stoopid.
listen to this to hear what I mean listen first the jerky break from reason then the same break made in the wave editor
im sure im missing something obvious in how to use the quantise/user groove function but i cant seem to crack it so I was hoping an XLTer can help me thru these diffuclt times, so i can increase my degenerate amen based track production rate, innit.
if none of this means anything to you hey! id like to know how you edit your breaks in whatever programs you use!
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-06-12 12:21 [#01918448]
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well if the wav is too long/short for the loop, then the tempo is obviously mismatched.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-06-12 12:21 [#01918450]
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wait i didnt read the question.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-06-12 12:22 [#01918452]
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are you running the loop in the Dr.Rex?
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-06-12 12:31 [#01918454]
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this was with NN19 but it doesnt make any difference really
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-06-12 12:58 [#01918467]
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I dislike breaks actually, its much easier (for me at least) to just snip out the sounds i like from a break, and keep it as a one sample. Then i divide all my samples into categories, like, snares, kicks, percussion, hihats so on so on. Then i mix and match, layer sounds and so forth, until i come up with something i like. I never found cutting breaks usefull.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-06-12 13:08 [#01918478]
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well the nn19 just plays the wav as a straight sample but the rex plays a sequence of sampled hits, so yeah there should be a fair bit of difference, i don't really follow.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-06-12 13:16 [#01918484]
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well okay, if i use the dr rex, and do 'send to track', it arranges the hits so they run smoothly, but in the original order. if i want to rearrange the hits this doesnt help. or does it?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-06-12 13:19 [#01918486]
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uhh rearrange rex loops in the edit window?
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-06-12 14:15 [#01918558]
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but then when you move them they snap back to the grid and you get the jumpy sound again
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-06-12 14:29 [#01918572]
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i can't hear that file, and i'm not sure what you mean by snaping back to the grid. i use dr rex a lot though
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2006-06-12 14:42 [#01918589]
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a post that long has to be [b]emo[/b]
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2006-06-12 14:42 [#01918590]
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[b] [b][b][b] [/b]
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-06-12 14:53 [#01918599]
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don't quantize the notes?
or turn snap to grid off?
or change the value of each incrament?
d) dunno W00fter
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-06-12 15:11 [#01918609]
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i cant get yousendit to work so never mind that file... what i mean is that each of the drum hits in the break isnt exactly a 16th of a beat, so when you lay them out in the sequencer as though they are, sometimes a hit seems late or early because of this. if you do send track from dr rex it puts them in the sequencer in the exact arrangement they are in the break, so they dont sound wrong at all. but when you start rearranging them, you have to use snap to grid because otherwise you'd be trying to remember the slightly different lengths of each hit so you could position all the hits without them sound early/late in relation to the previous hit
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-06-12 15:13 [#01918611]
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if you're about on msn send me the *.rns of what you're having problems with, but i can't make any promises
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-06-12 16:09 [#01918651]
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oh well heres a yousendit link
doesnt look like anyone knows what im on about, if you can help saskrotch then do it!
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-06-14 12:51 [#01920016]
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bump 4 roygbivcore - any suggestions plz?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-06-14 12:55 [#01920018]
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oh honestly i just re-draw them one by one, so that they fill out the grid evenly, and if there's stutters or audio gaps i'll usually transpose it down a couple steps
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-06-14 12:58 [#01920019]
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or you could just speed it up abit
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-06-14 13:00 [#01920022]
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fair enough, i guess theres no easy option. thanks
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