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and i'm sure there are no copyrights on them :D great thing |
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sounds fun u could probably impeach several heads of state with the information on that disc |
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um i guess they won't because they would automatically admit that something like this exists. |
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that is pretty entertaining |
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quite spooky too i guess |
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i think there are copyrights on some samples. WILCO used a sample on the album Yankee Hotel Foxtrot and got sued by a company that had a copyright on the particular sample they used. |
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it fits your av quite well :D |
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i feel new BoC releases spawning |
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ahh it was irdial that sued WILCO's record company. |
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tcp d4 28 the backwards music station irdial is eerie |
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You can probably get banged up for 20-odd years under new anti-terrorist legislation for listening to number stations. ;) |
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cool stuff, thanks. |
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anyone checking those samples apart from myself ? lots of little lovely melodies hidden in those radio noises. yummy ! |
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yeah, they are eerie. I need to chop them up to do my Kraftwerk Numbers cover. |
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gyroscope |
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i'll just bump that up because i stumbled across this again and it still is just as entertaining as it was |
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I have the discs. The Conet Project is superb. It makes for creepy midnight listening I can tell you. |
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Wow. That's really great! |
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good stuff, the booklet is somewhat interesting |
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Doesn't the wireless and telegraphy act state that it is a crime to listen to transmissions that you are not intended to receive? Of course my radio scanner is only set to listen to 88-108MHz so I can listen to pop music, god knows why I would want to listen to anything else..... Hang on... I can here the black helicopters circling above. brb |
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i think it is just mentioning that it's a crime to send them. not to receive i guess |
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i spent several hours digging through those samples. and found many gems. it's worth your time. |
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I've had it for some time now, it is amongst the most evocative recordings ever.. recorded. |
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They are really good! I have some of this collection. |
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I find them a little disturbing in places as well. Especially the way the signal fades in and out, it gives it a really twisted and disturbed beauty. |
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the wikipedia article on these stations is quite interesting |
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Listening to numbers stations in the UK is illegal under the |
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Tod Dockstader has some interesting albums semi related to this. |
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no nevermind |
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this is great |
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Back when I first heard these, I listened to the Lincolnshire Poacher a few times on a shortwave radio. The frequencies and times are pretty well known. It's quite a surreal experience. |
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it certainly is. it's so mysterious and intruiging.. |
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im up for this. |
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alright this will give me nightmares for sure. |
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found these a few years ago.. boc samples one of these on gyroscope as hedphukkerr mentioned.. can't remember which one, but it's in there somewhere. |
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Hehe, getting back into these now... Anyone know if you need any special equipment to actually find these number stations on the shortwave? I've been trying with a little Sony radio and I've had no luck so far... |
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i have a fairly small telescopic antenna shortwave radio that picks what is apparently a cuban number station up. www.spynumbers.com is pretty good for figuring out a loose schedule of stations you can maybe pick up on. the database helps. i'd love to hear some more live other than the cuban one that i hear which is probably like THE only one in north america but its fun once in a while when im bored. |
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it's the crown jewel of archive.org im just glad i found out what that stuff in the radio was, i used to think i found something supersecret and dialed on to not get arrested |
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http://www.archive.org/download/ird059/tcp_d1_03_counting_c ontrol_irdial.mp3 - boc |
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irdial are gods, theres loads of free music there too if u look |
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im so confused by these. what are they saying? why are they everywhere? where are they transmitted from? how hard would it be to find where the signal came from - go there - and then kinda see who was doing it? |
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they have---its usually a military base. |
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how hard would it be to get inside the military base and get some answers? |
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probably pretty easy. lets try it! |
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hehe I live 30 minutes drive south of GCHQ in the UK, some of my friends' parents work there (suprisingly they're allowed to tell me that.) perhaps I can get some inside info... severely doubt it due to the official statement made a few years ago (along the lines of numbers stations don't exist but you shouldn't be listening to them anyway) but yeah... it could happen... |
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i've got the cds as well, so eerie. picked up lincolnshire poacher a few times now, there's a whole subculture of people tracking all this, working out timetables, pinpointing transmitters and stuff (LP's in cyprus if i remember right? one of the british ones is anyway). i was on a number stations mailing list for a bit but vast daily lists of numbers and jargon just get a bit tiring after a while, haven't got the kit to really listen properly |
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The military base is not the source of the numbers. It's likely that a secure telephone or microwave relay transmits the signal to the military base. The military base then modulates it and broadcasts using a huge antenna. I would imagine the actual origin is London, Washington DC, Paris, Moscow, etc. It's easy to build a big antenna in a military area, claim its radar or something and shoot people if they try and interfere with its operation. I doubt you could plonk one on top of MI6 HQ and pretend it wasn't there. Everyone knows it's the governments doing it or it would be easy to triangulate and shut down. You have to appreciate the power requirements and size of a transmitter capable or delivering hundreds of thousands of watts of RF power. It's not some radio ham with a penchant for digits. I suggest you read the surprisingly good wikipedia article. 20 56 84 65 22 94 38 76 |
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"secure telephone" -That's the whole reason why they use Numbers Stations though isn't it? Because telephone lines can be tapped/traced/etc. Sure the telephone line can be "secure", but it's more susceptible to "hacking" than a direct transmission. Radio. Live transmiiiiisionnn. |
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No, wrong. You send the numbers down the phone line as a baseband signal. It is then modulated onto the RF carrier and broadcast. This has numerous benefits: contacts do not need to be near a telephone. radiowave propagation allows for them to receive signals in remote areas. message can be sent to multiple contacts with a single broadcast. Since you send the numbers down the phone line it is secure. The phone line could be tapped, but who cares? You're transmitting the numbers anyway! The phone line is not physically secure, but the message is because it has been encoded at the source. The idea is that the crypto unit of say MI6 makes a new number sequence using a one time pad. An agent has this one time pad for decoding. The numbers are sent down the telephone line or microwave link, burst transmitter, whatever to the big massive antenna in secure location. The transmitter broadcasts the numbers around the planet. MI6 HQ receives the broadcast and checks against their message to spot any "man in the middle" alterations when sent down the phone line. (Although a man in the middle would only really be able to send garbled messages to agents, not actual messages unless they knew the one time pad). In reality, I'm sure that the transmission lines to the military installations are either physically secure or impossible to intercept, such as burst transmissions over microwave links and fibre optic cables, etc. Of course the military installation could also have a different one time pad and a checksum could be sent to them using their pad to ensure the message is geniune MI6 message. I don't work for MI6 or anything, but I believe my reasoning is sound. |
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Oh right yeah sure. lol sorry I always make statements before thinking them through. |
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