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offline Clic on 2002-03-07 06:39 [#00115210]
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Who do you think makes the best use of it?


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-07 06:52 [#00115221]
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squarepusher of course

plug's amen stuff is also quite nice
i think µ-ziq may start off with amen breaks...im not
sure..but i like what he comes up with


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2002-03-07 06:53 [#00115224]
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squarepusher


 

offline Clic on 2002-03-07 06:55 [#00115225]
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Haha, of course Squarepusher. Just curious... and yes I
agree, Plug's amen usage is quite nice indeed.


 

offline Archrival on 2002-03-07 08:01 [#00115274]
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Aphex Twin n ofcourse Squarepusher.


 

offline leftrightronic on 2002-03-07 08:13 [#00115287]
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hmm i know what the amen break sounds like, on its own.. but
can you define it exactely.

i dun know much about music theory either i just play it by
ear


 

offline Centurix from Brisbane (Australia) on 2002-03-07 09:48 [#00115327]
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I think the winstons did a pretty good job with it


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-07 09:49 [#00115330]
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what the flip is an amen break?


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-03-07 10:03 [#00115344]
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Drum Break from The Winstons "Amen Brother"
Used very much in DnB produktions.
Check out "that amen track" by Lemon D
Or "Concealed Identity" by Source Direct
There must be thousands of tracks using that break.


 

offline que from vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-07 10:31 [#00115364]
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how about best use of bob james' mardigas
(the one with cow bells)? (apart from run dmc)


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-07 10:43 [#00115371]
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Uh, wasn'z LTJ Bukem the first to famously use the Amen
break?


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-03-07 10:49 [#00115379]
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nope


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-03-07 10:50 [#00115380]
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even NWA used it in straight oughta commton


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-07 10:52 [#00115386]
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Come to think of it you're right. It'is on Straight outta
Compton sure as hell. But isn't Bukem supposed to be the one
bringing it into speedy clubdance environment?


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-03-07 10:59 [#00115396]
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Yeah maybe youre right.
But what about "Two Bad Mice" and those other old school
pioneers.
Wherent those chaps before him?
I don't know because i haven't listen to Bukem very much.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-07 11:00 [#00115399]
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nah...Bukem's more a "ambient" jungle kinda guy so I doubt
the Amen would fit with him...

It's probably easier to list those who haven't used the Amen
rather than those who have....


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-07 11:02 [#00115403]
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And I think Dillinja is one of best producers out
there...his bass and Amen work is simply outstanding....

"Firery the Angels Fell"....and he samples Bladerunner/BLAKE
in that Angels Fall track (which is simply stunning)...


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-07 11:05 [#00115405]
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I'm not going to claim any in-depth knowledge of jungle/
d'n'b, I've just seen this amen thing credited to Bukem
several times. Anyway I don't like his style (or the whole
good looking style for that matter) and agree that 'pusher
pushed thebreak to the edge of panic. How can you be cooler
than Come on my selector?


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-07 11:06 [#00115407]
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Oh, jand, by the way, thanks for the yesterday's tip on
textz.com. Fucking great site. My office printer is going to
have a hard couple of weeks.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-03-07 11:10 [#00115411]
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"It's probably easier to list those who haven't used the
Amen
rather than those who have.... "

Youre so right there jand



 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-07 11:22 [#00115420]
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No problem...it's a pretty underground site and one of my
faves...It's almost as if someone has taken all my favourite
textz and created a site especially for me...

Glad you're enjoying it...


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-07 11:25 [#00115426]
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Yeah, there are cool things at ctheory site too, but this
one surpasses everything i've yet seen, probably due to
their nonchalant copyright violation. Bless 'em.


 

offline Morg DOBWCPT from Davis (United States) on 2002-03-07 21:04 [#00116322]
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yeah, Bukem's at least partly resonsible for popularizing
the Amen break in dnb, especially on his early singles, but
he's hardly alone.

What I find amazing is the versatility of the break itself,
given that it's been used across the spectrum from the
Bukem/Good Looking records types to Squarepusher.


 

offline Clic on 2002-03-07 21:05 [#00116325]
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I agree, Morg.


 

offline Zombiekev from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-03-07 21:08 [#00116332]
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good ol' []pusher


 

offline kalaim badkaama from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-03-07 22:22 [#00116474]
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.Pousse-carré.
.Squarepusher.


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-03-08 04:01 [#00116884]
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makes me wanna hear the original Amen Brother


 

offline Archrival on 2002-07-08 07:11 [#00301133]
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COME ON MY SELECTAH!!!!

Im mean everyone has used the amen break from Wu Tang Clan
to Archrival...


 

offline MrTenzin from The Concrete Jungle (United States) on 2002-07-08 08:11 [#00301166]
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square pusher is da GOD OF da Amenz... the only othre person
thats good at it is alec empire and Dj ss's old stuff

jah m0n


 

offline fat kaimo from Finland on 2002-07-08 08:20 [#00301172]
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what about the apache? used to death too.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2002-07-08 08:29 [#00301175]
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Dillinja without a doubt has made some of the best use of
the break...He is a very technical d'n'b artist and with
tracks like Angels Fell and Armoured D he has to be
considered as one of the best.

I think Dom & Roland (imo Industry was the best d'n'b album
ever, and the Frozen remix is superb) and DJ Trace are also
excellent.

I think Squarepusher is good but I don't like his Amen
tracks, for some reason I think he strips a lot of the
impact out of the break.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2002-07-08 08:31 [#00301176]
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The Action Break is used in a lot of the more recent drum
and break stuff as well (Ed Rush and Optical etc.)


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-07-08 14:40 [#00301485]
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For those who want to know WTF everyone's talking about:

The Amen break is a sample from "Amen, Brother" by the
Winstons and is one of the most heavily used breaks in d 'n
b.



 


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