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offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-05-30 14:17 [#01910048]
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could you help me out with this one ?

i have two dimms of pc 2700 ddr-ram which is meant to be
clocked with 333/400 mhz

i downloaded a simple diagnostics program which told me that
my ram is clocke with 166mhz...

so, is the program fucked or is this a centrino related
problem??

can you recommend me another diagnostics problem ??

help !


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2006-05-30 14:22 [#01910049]
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if it aint broke, dont fix it...


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-05-30 14:27 [#01910052]
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oh come on i want to buy some new memory banks because my
lappy is to slow lately and this would actually solve my
problem...

on the other hand i would kill the man in the pc-shop for
selling me 166 mhz banks instead of 333 that i paid for


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2006-05-30 14:31 [#01910053]
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oh right so there is actually a problem. im sorry, i thought
you just noticed that there was something wrong while
playing with the diagnostics

anyway, cant help you =(


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-05-30 14:41 [#01910060]
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come on jaroen - i'm not here since yesterday so you should
now that i post here when i REALLY have a problem :D peace


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-05-30 15:00 [#01910070]
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fuckin hell nobody ?


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-30 15:03 [#01910072]
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check the cpu multiplier is correctly set in bios. you may
be running defaults whcih could return those figures if you
were expecting more!


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-05-30 15:06 [#01910075]
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here's the point - i have not access to the multiplier
because it's that intel speedstep technology thing...

the multiplier is changing depending on the usage of the
cpu

BUT that doesn't change the fsb which is still 166


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-30 15:11 [#01910078]
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i'm clutching at straws here but it could be the speedstep
what's distorting the results. can you find another
benchmark utility to confirm the results?


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-05-30 15:13 [#01910081]
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read my initial post :D i CAN'T find any other tool...
that's why this topic has been created...


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-30 15:16 [#01910084]
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have you tried SiSoftware Sandra. it's the 1 i use when testing
new builds.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-05-30 15:26 [#01910091]
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checking



 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-05-30 15:58 [#01910120]
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okay that's really weird...

sisoft tells me very much and actually nothing.

but it seems like the speed is divided by the memory
banks... so i have two times 166 mhz gives - 333 mhz...


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-05-30 16:01 [#01910122]
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but i would be really glad if someone could somehow explain
this thing to me



 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2006-05-30 18:10 [#01910185]
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where can i set the cpu multiplier in bios?


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-31 00:28 [#01910302]
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i lost track of all the multipliers and double data rates
ages ago so can't really shed any light on those. I know
i've had unexpected results many times though because of
issues like not having matched pairs or memory to get the
best speeds etc.


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-31 00:30 [#01910303]
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depends which bios your pc has, some are locked down and you
can't do much, but others let you play around; look in
advanced>CPU or voltage settings.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-05-31 09:48 [#01910493]
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most of the motherboards can't have only physical onboard
switches to change the multiplier - check it in the book

okay - so i finally got the answer: now the ram fsb is 166
mhsz but as they are DDR (double rams) they have their own
multiplier which makes it 333 mhz... simple


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2006-05-31 11:46 [#01910554]
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It's not double rams. It's because DDR (double data rate)
technology allows data to be transferred on both the rise
and fall of the clock cycle as opposed to the traditional
peak only causing an effective doubling of data rate without
actually increasing the actual frequency of the chips.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-05-31 12:09 [#01910569]
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there you have it


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2006-05-31 12:17 [#01910575]
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:) I would have answered sooner but I wasn't here. I was
somewhere else.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2006-05-31 13:30 [#01910632]
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ah ha!


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-05-31 14:27 [#01910663]
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making another awesome avatar ?


 


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