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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-20 17:31 [#01903554]
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Hello to all avid (sexy) music listeners.
I've been working on this one for about 2 months now. I've worked it and re-worked it and have finally decided to let it be judged by the savage public. Criticism (as always) is welcome. This track is no way a closed case. I'm more than happy to make adjustments. Please have a listen, and I will be sure to reply to every post!
Bitraete - Centurion.mp3
(Length: 4:23 / Bitrate: 320k/sec / Size: 10mb)
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-20 17:46 [#01903572]
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k it's been over 15 minutes, i'm allowed to bump
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-05-20 17:47 [#01903573]
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D/Ling.
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-05-20 17:54 [#01903583]
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Just listened from start to finish...it all left me a bit cold. It had a bit of everything expected from this style of track but it didn't grab me at all. Could just be a mood thing though (as in I am in a bad one). I will listen again in the morning.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-20 17:55 [#01903585]
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cool. i appreciate your time.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-05-20 17:59 [#01903589]
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That midi piano sound doesn't do many favours.
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-05-20 18:02 [#01903593]
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its like a funny xmd6A thanks for share it
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-20 18:03 [#01903594]
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at which point? i didn't actually use a midi piano or any piano of any sort, but i would like to know at what point you heard it so i can change it.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-05-20 18:04 [#01903595]
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I really don't feel your drums at all. Too clean, no energy, and a lot of patterns I just dont like. Generally the structure of the track lost me, a few times it seems like a little synth part comes and goes and then another one starts, and then the drums change at an arbitrary point. I think you should focus on the drum programming, make the patterns more fluid and try to tie them in better with the rest of the track, so they hold it all together
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-20 18:04 [#01903596]
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i was thinking that earlier on when i was listening to that track. how funny! thanks for listening mate. my pleasure to share.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-05-20 18:05 [#01903598]
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Um, pretty much from 00.30 until about 2 minutes in. It might not be a piano, but my PC Speakers are saying "Midi Piano" at this point.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-20 18:06 [#01903599]
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I think I see what you mean. I'll see what I can do about that. Thanks for taking the time :D
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-20 18:07 [#01903601]
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Sorry, I have to say I'm not hearing that at all. Probably your speakers.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-05-20 18:08 [#01903603]
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Fuck, just imagine all the other music I've been making up whilst listening at this laptop.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-05-20 18:09 [#01903605]
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It's a 'honky tonk' piano preset to my ears.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-20 18:09 [#01903606]
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never trust a laptop when it comes to listening to stuff
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staz
on 2006-05-20 18:10 [#01903607]
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dog_belch, will you be releasing any more GRINNING APE later on?
oh, and razor, i'll listen and comment shortly, need to finish listening through belew's side three.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-20 18:10 [#01903608]
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it's meant to be like a sort of eastern string instrument. i did fuck with it quite a lot though.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-20 18:11 [#01903609]
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no problem, i'm up till late tonight
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-05-20 18:23 [#01903626]
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I love you for your interest. After the GLUT of Ape things I came up with the idea for more danceflor orientated things. Bearing in mind I'm no more likely to hit the dancefloor than a child, it just perpetuates the charade that is my life. However, I came up with a new name "The Art Class" and I have started two tracks, unfinished a la Cygnus, chiefly being Happy Shopper and Star Burger and one that I attributed to Ape that I want to wrestle back to Art Class as I like it Track One
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-05-20 18:38 [#01903631]
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It was cool, very spastic like, but at a slightly slower tempo.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-20 18:40 [#01903632]
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hehe, thanks for listening
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-05-20 18:42 [#01903635]
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it sounds like a piano. a really thin piano.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-20 18:45 [#01903639]
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Just to let you all know, here's what i'm going to change:
[-] Tweak the EQ on the beats and some other stuff. [-] Remove some of the pointless leading synths. [-] Work on the beats. Make them fit together more nicely. [-] Remove the random tempo change near the beginning. [-] Edit one of the synths towards the end. [-] Make the ending more interesting. [-] Generally just add more soul to it. [-] Change the "thin piano" as qrter put it.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-05-20 18:48 [#01903649]
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downloadin
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-05-20 19:22 [#01903686]
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it sounds almost like something I would make, then regret (I didn't like it but I can sympathize)
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-20 19:25 [#01903687]
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fair enough. thanks for checking it.
i'm going to make some good stuff soon. i've got 6 sample cds arriving + i just download 100 new VSTs - no more bog standard crap
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staz
on 2006-05-20 19:26 [#01903688]
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i was thinking "oh, this is cool, what's everyone complaining about?!" until the harpsichord/piano-thing entered. then it just got retarded. i really like the percussion work, but the piano needs to go or drastically change sounds. i'd also like a lot more melodic variation and pattern variation. go a bit nuts! otherwise, i quite like the soundscape you've got going here. nice one!
dog_belch, i'm gonna listen to your tracks next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-20 19:28 [#01903689]
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k. there seems to be a lot of hate for that sound so it's definately going. thanks for your comments, they're a great help to me :D
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staz
on 2006-05-20 19:37 [#01903692]
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fuck, that "star burger" track is the musical definition of blue balls... finish it or ... well, internet threats don't weigh a lot, so i'm just going to beg; finish it, please!
happy shopper takes a more primal, instantly gratifying turn. very nice, distorted drums, just the way mother used to make them. i've noticed very few take the distorted path except for hardcore techno wankers, and it's a style that should be employed more. lovely ambience here too, floats very well. it's all a bit droney and tribal, but uniquely so. needs to be longer as well, but i know you're not in it for length.
then the ape track. holy shit, the distortion hits right away! no warnings. a cascade of noisy pads and a shy, almost inaudible beat. it's this take no prisoners attitude that makes me adore the ways of the ape so much. i especially love that noisy bit that filters in and out of the mix, fucking excellent. the harshest of the three, but also the best. there's no defeating the ape.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-05-20 19:55 [#01903705]
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hey its not a bad track. it just sounds a bit too clean and overproduced. like having a wash, but somones scrubbed off all the skin with a brillo pad. what do i know
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-20 19:58 [#01903706]
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hehe. i think i know what you mean. i'm not very good at mastering. it can be quite tricky in fl studio 5
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-21 05:08 [#01903804]
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Lots of critisism in this one, but you asked for it.
The drums are too loud. You don't really feel like cranking the sound up, and listen to it loudly. I actually think the sounds are really good. Not hearing midi keyboard at all. Quite like the bass that comes in at 2:12. Hating how you change the volume of the already too loud drums. As Dannn is saying, i think theres a lack of structure. After listening i didnt really want to listen to it again. The melodies sound like something randomly put in. Its like a journey trough all sorts of moods, but not really going anywhere. If somebody was mixing it live, i would think it was ok, but as a listening track, i need more structure than this. But some of the beats are definatly dope, not doubt about that. Thats all i can think of right now.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-21 05:23 [#01903815]
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Thank you so much for your time. Your comments are very helpful and I will be editing the track accordingly. Thanks again!
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-21 05:36 [#01903821]
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It was my pleasure. Really!
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-21 06:42 [#01903862]
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Just spent about an hour working on it. I don't have the heart to remove the "thin piano" (and I also decided that I seriously have no problem with that sound at all. In fact I'm really quite fond of it) - nothing else seems to go. I feel like it's improving though.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-21 09:27 [#01903938]
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[TRACK UPDATED]
This is about as much as i'm going to do to it. It's got to a point where I'm going round in circles now.
I've done a few things. Made the beats quieter. Added extra beats. Adjusted the EQ on lots of stuff. Taken away some crappy stuff like the leading in basslines. Taken away one of the tempo changes near the start. I kept the "thin piano" cos i like it and all your speakers must be shite. I changed some of the synths near the end, and lots of little other tweaks.
Time to move onto something new now.
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cataLYST
from Waldorf (United States) on 2006-05-21 09:31 [#01903940]
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Razor - I liked to abstract and ethnic feel to the melody, some of the filters threw me off a bit.. I didnt fine as many problems in the programming as other people did, maybe thats cause my drum programming is much less fluid and much more sparatic. I definitely dug that new synth that came in mid way.. the second half of the track is much better imo.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-21 09:48 [#01903947]
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thanks for listening mate. got any new tracks for me to listen to?
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-21 09:51 [#01903948]
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Have you got a links to some old tracks of yours? anything you are particulary proud of?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-21 09:59 [#01903952]
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bitraete.com/tracks
Check out, "Frantic Pixel", "You Are Lines", "Nyastah", "Rapid Flapjack"
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-21 10:00 [#01903953]
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thanks for your interest!
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-21 10:42 [#01903973]
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I think some of the tracks on there are better than what was uploaded here. I think you have some nice ideas and good sounds. But for me, i need more structure. It seems all your songs are always just changing direction all the time. It would be cooler if you went back to some of the themes earlier in the song. Would be more satisfying for the listener. I sort of like Frantic pixel. You need some different drum samples i think.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-21 10:50 [#01903979]
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Yeah I understand what you're saying. I've got 6 drum sample cds arriving soon, so i'll have lots of fresh sounds. Structurally, I have tried lots of other styles in the past (listen to "Badmo", "Slightrings" and "Rapid Flapjack") but the way i'm doing it now is the way i like it. that may sound stupid, but i make music for fun, and when i'm making it for myself, that's when i really love it. thanks for taking the time to check extra stuff out. it's greatly appreciated!
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-21 10:57 [#01903981]
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I thought about that, and i'm only saying how i feel about the music. I actually love catchy music, so if youre wanting to do something more experimental, thats great, but not something i know anything about.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2006-05-21 12:29 [#01904019]
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for some reason, parts of it remind me of braindance backward's "period end report". it was mildly enjoyable. nothing cringeworthy, you should be proud. although, i feel two months is a long time for what we have here!
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cataLYST
from Waldorf (United States) on 2006-05-21 12:50 [#01904030]
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not quite yet razor.. everfire is 70% complete.. after that, expect my first real EP finally! :P
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-05-21 17:14 [#01904212]
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FlayAgaric: thanks for listening mate. when i say 2 months, i kinda mean like a few hours here and there. thanks again!
catalyst: i look foward to hearing!
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cataLYST
from Waldorf (United States) on 2006-05-21 17:19 [#01904216]
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razor - i just spammed out everfire on the main page.. leave me a comment if u want.
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