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I found this German site with 46 examples of synths playing and you have to determine what they are. Even if you think you are a guru, I doubt you will get 50%........... go on, prove me wrong :) It's quite interesting because the difference between soft and hard ware and famous synth X and Y is very minimal. If you had the choice of one of them, which would you go for? I want number 20. |
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I am SHIT at this. I can't identify synths to save my life. |
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dave_g>i would like the "lol lol lol lol lol" avatar back |
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I tried 8 and got 1 right. :( |
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yeah im just gonna go ahead and not post my score :( |
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just for you, lol lol lol is back. Actually I quite like it. |
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i love the daves_G ! |
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Ummm. Anything for someone who can't read german??? |
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One thing I would like to point out insofar as the difference between softsynth and hardware, is that you won't notice much of a difference then they are being compressed into lossy audio. A lot of the audible benefits from analogue will be killed with the mp3 format. |
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wow that was pretty hard i have a k5000s amazing machine so is the k2661! |
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- be it Analogue or Digital? Yarrrr. |
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That sounds like digital. |
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There's some echo on this one - do not be fooled! |
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I would think that one is analogue. That sounds a lot like an evolver actually. But with the state of a lot of analogue modelling nowadays its getting harder and harder. But that has that analogue bounce that I haven't heard possible from very much digital. |
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I think those softsynths sound like softsynths. |
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Wrong on both counts. First sample is a 100% analog Vermona Perfourmer. Second sample is an analog modeling synth I built in Reaktor. Woop woop! Arm the rationalizations! Fire at will! |
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haha, that was evil of you fleet :D |
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Nice job on the analogue modelling if you built that yourself! :) The thing with the vermona perfourmer... I am not suprised. If you want analogue to sound flimsy... thats not difficult. No synthesizer comes an automatic awesome button. Except for the evolver. That has a dial that can switch it from awesome to asskick. You can automate it with midi. |
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I am really interested on how you did that in reaktor. That sounded more convincing than practically anything I have heard with software. |
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Actually, after giving those a second listen that seems to make sence. Thanks for proving me wrong fleetmouse. |
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the benefits af digital will also be corrupted by mp3 compression, everybody as to stop with the ridiculous A/D war :( it's all just misconception coming from the days where digital audio technology was young (bad converters, bad algorithms, ...) what about ALL the advantage of a digital synth? uh, even wendy/walter carlos said it in the 80's, digital technology makes it possible to do orchestral synthetic music FAR better than analog one, with better sound, less noise, better control, better layering, ... i guess it'll always be "cooler" to praise analog synths, just like a guitarist with his marshall amp :) |
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People can be so snobby about this analogue/digital thing, I hate that. |
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Its not that analogue or digital sound better than eachother on an even playing field. They have their own uses. I think the thing that gets me is the whole analogue modelling thing. Why spend all this time developing digital technology just so it sounds kind of like analogue? Its stupid. I would rather see someone develop an amazing digital synthesizer than a really well modelled moog rippoff. In the end tho, the best is always a hybrid, like the evolver. You CAN hear the difference if its done well. Analogue is warmer, less precise and rounder. Digital is cleaner, deeper and sharper. |
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Fleetmouse. Nice trick; I have to say I was impressed by the second one, as Taxi says, the "bounce" (which is seldom emulated as well as you did) made me inclined to believe it was analogue, the first one was 50:50 in my mind. Again, as taxi says, it's farily easy to make an analogue synth sound like it's an average digital emulation of an analogue, but the reverse is definately harder. A trick I've seen done in "blind tests" to make it harder is that you intentionally overdo what makes it sound gritty and analogue in the VST version. Eg, the old Audiorealism basslines blind test mp3s had clearly upped the drive and distort dials to about 25% (rather than 20% which is generally nearest the sound of the real TB). As a result the vst version of the clips sounded a tad dirtier, so people lean towards believing that is the analogue one. Any chance you send me/upload the Reaktor instrument? If you don't want to, I won't take offense, we all have our "secret weapons"... :) E-man: I agree. I have both analogue and digital gear (as well as obviously digital software) and whilst analogue has its place, the notion that it's automatically better (or even, in many cases, that more than 1% of listeners will be able to tell the difference) is ludicrous. Personally, I use digital for a lot more and I'd say if you could only have one, I'd have to pick digital as it's more versatile. |
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I'm polishing that one to upload to the Reaktor library, so at least my fleetmouse alias gets credit for it :D after which I'll make it generally available to all. |
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Cool, I look forwards to it :) |
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Yeah this is totally impossable. If it were a game of Guess the presets it woul be much easier. They all so similar to each other, some emulating each other so perfect that yeah, this is silly heh! |
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Well, if you tried to emphasize the benefits of digital with the digital synthesizers, and benefits of analogue with the analogue synthesizers, and the benifits of software with the software synthesizers, then it would be more telling. It would also be funner, and more educational. |
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IMO, the thing is with digital you can sound like analog, you just need to fiddle with it and "dirty" it up (but even on that, it's just that people associate analog synths with noise and a certain lo-finess, not that analog should sounds dirty when of good quality) you said it, analog sounds warmer, rounder, all that is in fact limitations that people grown to love you could easily get that sound out of a digital synth, but it's harder to remove noise and add "precision" to an analog synth in fact i'll take analog everyday, just because the noisyness and unpredictability of the circuit makes it fun to experiment, plus it's easier to customize, and i tend to like the interface more but i'm sure in 5-10 years people will laugh at the worshipping and high price some analog gear goes on today =) my korg ms-20 + sq-10 could go for 1200+€, i could buy a ton of hi-quality used gear with that much money :D |
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Agreed. Well for the most part. I still can get sounds out of my evolver that no computer software can do (believe me, I have used everything back when I was poor and into downloading 10gigs of warez daily [I don't use warez anymore, and only condone its use if the user is poor]). The closest is some of the things I have heard from reaktor and the G2. |
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yeah evolver is great. its because of the hybrid nature of it. the whole is much greater than the sum of the parts. Split into seperate synths, evolver would be a crap FM/wavetable synth and an alright analogue one and a rubbish delay. Mix together, with the sequencer, amazing mod routings and all the other little tweaks and its totally totally awsome for the price, size, etc. The only "synth" I own is the evolver table top version. Ok I have an akai S5000, which may as well be a synth and that gets used pretty much as one. I really want a kawai K5000 rack for lush additive synthesis, but after that i see no need for any more synths. I don't think people need so many. 3 should be fine for almost everyone unless they get signed to rephlex or something. |
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