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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-06 04:21 [#00113474]
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in three days! sorry...i dont normally spam so insessantly but i figured i'd celebrate my 200th post with the annoncement that i've just uploaded a new song to my ampcast site ..called 'gust front'
go check it out and tell me what you think, if you will... http://www.ampcast.com/cerulean
i promise this will be the last spam attack by me for a while..
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-03-06 04:27 [#00113483]
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listening now...doesn't seem like its your first song though, judging by the fact that you have like 20 other songs there =)
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-03-06 04:30 [#00113491]
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I like the song, what I dont like too much are the sounds themselves, they're too 'digital' for me, but whatever thats just a preference. I liked your last one more though. Dont worry about spamming, I like hearing your new stuff :)
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-06 08:31 [#00113623]
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I agree, spam all you want, we're all here for music basically.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-06 08:55 [#00113667]
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actually this song didn't appeal to me as much as a lot of your other stuff (i'm still in the process of downloading them bit by bit). Keep experimenting and doing new things like this though, it's the best way to find out new interesting (pointless) crazy stuff heh heh.
The sound is rich, but kinda ambientish... I like percussionish stuff usually because the short sound bursts allow maximum units to compose in minimum time... the shorter the sounds, the more action possible to pack in time.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-06 20:19 [#00114668]
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thanks for listening guys
yeah m, this one wasnt as percussion based...i was trying to keep it sort of simple this time...i find it easier to make really complex tracks..so ive been trying to make more simple ones...since its sort of harder to make something simple but still interesting...
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-06 20:21 [#00114674]
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yeah... that's true.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-06 20:27 [#00114678]
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but there's different ways of being simple... like, the organization could be extremely complex, but only one sound is used... in this case a limited sound pallette... Or the organization could be a simple repeating noise, that mutates and changes into all sorts of different sounds. etc.
I usually like somewhat minimal stuff, because I like symmetry, and you can't have that with constant change/difference. I like mutating symmetry though, like evolution. Like squarepusher has complex beats with the same sounds basically, but each "measure" has the percussion hits organized in a slightly different way, somewhat randomly... similar but different.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-06 20:50 [#00114685]
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yeah..thats a good point.. i was talking more about simplicity in a compositional sense..one thing ive learned in school is that in making a balanced composition..you want to have it so nothing can be added or taken away..like one little thing missing or added would throw the whole thing off
ive also been listening to a lot of simple music lately ...like rotor+, isan, harold budd+brian eno...and was impressed at how they all used restraint in composing...i think its neat how they can make the silence in between the beats or notes just as important as the beats/notes themselves
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-07 07:20 [#00115247]
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that's a very interesting idea of a balanced composition there... I'll have to think about that for awhile. I think something can pretty much always be added or subtracted... or changed, and it will still sound good... but I like the concept. You have to add the right thing though... I suppose you could subtract just about anything and it'll sound good still (given that the right things were added), Maybe the "right" thing is subjective, but I don't think so entirely, there's logical reasons some things sound better together etc... that gives me ideas... like making some huge wall of beats and then base the entire composition on the idea of subtraction. Some classical composer said something like music is painted on a canvas of silence... or something like that... which I suppose is obvious, I think they said something better but I forget what it was...
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-03-07 07:22 [#00115249]
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i'll try to d/l but i'm having problems d/ling stuff from mp3.com.....something is wrong with my media player. i hope it works so i can hear your stuff =)
SPAMMERRRRRRR =b
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-07 07:32 [#00115255]
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nice touch, the girls are called old mama instead of old daddy. It mekas since sense girls tend to become mamas and not daddys...
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-07 07:51 [#00115267]
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thanks lecoeur :)
yeah m...i guess the hard part in working that way is figuring out when it sounds 'right'...theres such a thin line between too much and too little..so i guess thats why its harder than trying to make something really complex ..i've had to apply these concepts visually in school...and am just now trying to apply them to music..that canvas of silence quote is interesting..it makes sense because in visual composition, the negative space is just as important as the positive...i think i heard another quote somewhere that said something like..without silence, music would just be noise..
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-07 08:12 [#00115286]
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This is actually a good place for learning, we're all sharing information and ideas and becoming specialists in musical concepts. Books are just made by people too, why not go where people have similar interests like here... "there's a thin line between to much and too little"... interesting. "without silence, music would just be noise"... interesting.
I took some art classes but couldn't stand morons attempting to cage my imagination. The purpose of school seems to be job related, they'll teach you to make art for advertisements to SELL stuff or some crap... yerg, hopefully you'll get past the crap and get paid for something you like doing.
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leftrightronic
on 2002-03-07 08:20 [#00115291]
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it's scary what society and economy wants us to do and become
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leftrightronic
on 2002-03-07 08:21 [#00115293]
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this machine we've created
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leftrightronic
on 2002-03-07 08:23 [#00115294]
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i dug the sn0g man, very cool stuff.
there is this one sound that kinda stands out from the mix a bit much though, its a reverse thumpy noise, continues through the middle.. maybe lower the volume on it and/or pitch it up or something. terrific work tho, just needs a bit of tweaking.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-07 08:27 [#00115296]
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eheheh...yeah its almost like a virtual cafe...without the coffee...
yeah..im just in my first year...so im still learning basic stuff...like the compostional concepts ive been talking about...
but since im going into graphic design..it is basically making art to sell stuff...or mind control through graphic arts, if you rather...
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-07 08:31 [#00115298]
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thanks for listening leftrightronic...though im not completely sure what youre talking about...which track is this on?
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leftrightronic
on 2002-03-07 08:33 [#00115299]
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the one you recommended we check out 'gust front'
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-03-07 08:34 [#00115300]
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oh ok..ill look into it then, thanks
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leftrightronic
on 2002-03-07 08:34 [#00115301]
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yaar matey
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