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Let's say i want to make beats, hip-hop-trip-hop, jungle style, whatever... What device should i buy? A sampler? A drum computer? Where do all these people get their samples? Live instruments? I want to find out! |
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use your mouth to beatbox on the street corners until some brotha comes along to spit rhymes for dimes... ...failing that, use an upturned biscuit tin |
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Maybe any serious replies? |
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get reason or fruity loops if youre jsut starting out, they come with their own samples and you can import your own. |
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that was deadly serious, don't be so disrespectful - you got somethin against human beatboxing? it's an art-form |
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You're right, that's why i need heavy equipment... I do not possess the talent to lure brothas to spit their rhymes... Besides, i said hip-hop like beats, not hip-hop in general :) |
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hell, just download a hiphop orientated soundfont - and then get cooleditproV1.2A and cut/paste your way in hiphop heaven :) |
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...oops, i don't have a keyboard and if you do, you won't need cooledit -=- just a MIDI processor - cakewalk, cubase, somethin compatible with soundfonts or somethin... this is where someone else takes over... |
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alright then... I already have reason... but i don't like the samples it comes with, it has no power whatsoever (talking loudness, strength of the beats) I think the beats come out wimpy... (and i'm sure it's not my programming) |
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you can make pretty wicked beats in reason, you know how to use a compressor right? layer like 3-4 ReCrums on top of eachother each with different bass drums/snares etc and compress it all and mess around with distortion adn filters. |
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is reason the one with just heaps of racks? |
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dude, you need samples of REAL drums - or, i have this magic soundfont and the kick is HARD as nails |
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I know... Real drums are the best for making breakbeats... they sound a lot better... ( Thinking of Roni Size ( breakbeat era) type drums ) Or Red Snapper type drums.. These are cool! |
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you could buy a cheap drum machine and some effects. you could buy a sampler and sample other beats and rearrange them. |
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That i thought... But what brand of equipment? I heard AKAI makes good drum computers, but i have absolutely no knowledge of it... |
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do a search for "soundfonts" there are a few places that are good - one is like "hammer.net" or something... anyways, download heaps! i have a kick-ass jazz drumset i will twiddling with :) and lots of ethnic sounds and synths and shit - since i have no keyboard i live for that crap - i use a programme called Unity DS-1, which has a little pianoboard you can use with the computer-keyboard to record to a wave file, and then use cooledit pro - that's how i work anyways - painstaking but (mostly) worth it (you can get a cracked version of Unity DS-1 somewhere) |
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buy a drum-machine, you won't regret it (+distortion/compression) a friend of mine got a tr-626 few months ago, yesterday he got a boss metalzone distortion pedal, and it's fucking lot of fun to mess with these ... !!! |
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go to sonicstate.com a good, cheap drum machine is an alesis hr-16 or hr-16b. akai makes good samplers. |
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damn i've been meaning to get a tr626. i should've bought one a few months ago for real cheap. |
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akai does make good samplers, dunno for drumachines |
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Does it have a large sampleset? Does the machine allow sampling? 'Cause i will need versatility in the machine, a lot of versatility... And how difficult is it to create squarepusher like beats? With the repetitions, and twisted fx? |
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it's a pain in the ass to program when you tried one of x0x thesounds are not very good but for oldschool it's perfect... we are going to get the 727 quickly |
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how much to 626's go for? |
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what's the difference between the 626 and the 727? |
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no sample function but you have one output for each sounds (nearly) and thats great have you tried Native Instruments Battery, it's a sampler/drumachine i heard it's real good |
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i use battery its awesome. |
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727 is more africa oriented sounds 626 is more classics, but more sounds than on a 808/909, with chinese cymbal, cup, and other exotic sounds |
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what's that battery thingy about? |
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the 727 is the latin percussion based 707. the 626 is just a little older. |
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battery is a software drum sampler, you need a VST host like cubase or logic to use it. You can layer any sounds you like/pitch them however you want, with independant amp and pitch envelopes for every drum pad (54 of them) there are also different outs for every pad which rocks. I use it for all my beats. Its great for chopping hits off vinyl and then loading them all into battery. |
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got any (mp3) examples of what's possible with battery? |
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Uh, well my own stuff... you can hear it here if you like, all the beats are made with battery. www.ampcast.com/aardvarkinterface Im not trying to spam you, this is jsut the only example I know of. Anyways if you dont like the songs hopefully it will at least give you an idea. |
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I'm not afraid of spam, don't worry :) |
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You made this by using software only? 'Cause it sounds a hell of a lot fuller than what i get out of my pc |
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And i like it a lot i must say... Ever send a demo to Warp/rephlex? |
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Riddles and tricks features some definete reason tho :) |
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heh thanks a lot for the support. Yeah its all software. I havent sent out any demo's as I dont think its good enough yet, but I intend to one day, I want it to be really damn good before I send it around. |
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I think you are well on your way then... :) |
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and i'm jealous of your samples as well |
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Get a SoundBlaster Live! for cheap and make your own soundfonts from beats you've sampled onto your pc. Sequence them in something like cakewalk and you are sorted. I know a semi-pro who makes breakbeat on his live! still, they are so underated. You've got a wicked sampler with as much memory as you've got in your pc. |
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