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que
from vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-05 11:44 [#00112396]
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that geogaddi has got some crap on it. what have they been up to? A trip to India? lapping up the musical influences? pah Im sorry, but geogaddi misses the mark so badly in my opinion. I was expecting something lush, deep and beautiful like music has the right to children. Instead weve got an album that sound like second rate BoC. Global Goons new album on the other hand, is fucking awesome. cosmic melodies, a natural roughness mixed with a heavenly sweetness, and its rock solid, every track is a winner. I find it bizarre how everyone seems transfixed by BoCs very weak effort, and yet no one mentions vatican nitez? Bah, going back to crudulus on cat118, bye
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val
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-05 12:21 [#00112430]
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you clueless prick.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-03-05 12:22 [#00112432]
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Uh well.... I disagree with your Hippie Comment there..... and with your opinion. But thats what it is, an opinion so your entitled to it. I feel the other way around, while its probably not my favourite BOC album... I like it so damn much.
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que
from vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-05 12:29 [#00112439]
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unkind of you val
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que
from vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-05 12:31 [#00112442]
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but then thats the kind of reaction id expect from somebody so obsessed with stars like you
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Jedy
from dublin (Ireland) on 2002-03-05 12:35 [#00112450]
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hum
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-05 12:37 [#00112453]
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I also disagree......with the hippie reference.
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Archrival
on 2002-03-05 13:30 [#00112496]
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Yo Que. Get your facts straight.
BOC are as ANTI New Age Hippie as you can be...READ the new interview in the latest NME issue.
They dont wanna be called hippies and they are NOT religious. They do like math tho and Hexagons ofcourse ;)
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Archrival
on 2002-03-05 13:31 [#00112497]
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and i forgot...THE new album is BANGING!!!!!!!I think Vatican Nitez is amazing too but I like Geogaddi more.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-05 13:33 [#00112500]
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I'm just listening to my newly purchased Boc geogaddi pirate disc. And it sounds rather nice, but since I'm in my office I probably don't have enough time to concentrate on it. Perhaps it is second rate, by numbers stuff... Perhaps not, I have to have a closer, more intimate listen. Their music is deceptively simple and has always been. Each time I actually pay attention, something interesting happens. But I have yet to see if it adds up to the same fantastic result as Music has the... Can we discuss this tomorrow?
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Archrival
on 2002-03-05 13:42 [#00112508]
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aiight ;)
Tomorrow you will love it for sure.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-05 13:44 [#00112511]
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Yeah, I'm at alpha and omega now and it does to have some eastern influences. But it blends well with the rest. Cool ending with rain too. I'm not disappointed so far, but we best wait til tomorrow.
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val
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-05 13:54 [#00112528]
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que, i might have shown your message a bit more respect had you not already posted the same message perfectly verbatim on the joyrex board about 3 weeks ago.
chill out. it's not a competition, and even if it was, how would you go about declaring a winner between a shot-putter and a sprinter? or a chef and a novelist?
get my point?
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que
from vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-05 15:25 [#00112657]
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do you think geogaddi is better than vatican nitez?
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-03-05 15:26 [#00112661]
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que how old are you?
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sgt growley
from Deal (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-05 15:55 [#00112719]
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I don't like the phrase New Age or Hippie. It's always a new age unless you live in the past. Hippies would not be prepared to work hard enough to record an album.
And i think it's a great album which rewards repeated listening.
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que
from vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-05 16:01 [#00112733]
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i ve given geogaddi plenty of listens, and i must say there are 2 tracks on there that are really nice: track 14 and track 10 (apart from the stuff about 1969 at the end). The rest, i cant get into, because it sounds like one of my grannies new age relaxation tapes. listened to vatican nitez again and i have to say its wonderful, wicked tracks ALL the way through, and my age? 30
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-03-05 16:05 [#00112742]
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I think vatican nitez is better than geogaddi.
And its funny, because I spent $26 on geogaddi and I simply downloaded vatican nitez, so I think ur dead on about people supporting stars simply for their stardom, I'm definately guilty of it.
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que
from vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-05 16:07 [#00112744]
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bizarre, i downloaded vatican nitez too, and bought BoC!
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-03-05 16:09 [#00112750]
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I think people pay for music from artists they like to support them. Ive never paid for an AFX CD and I dont think i ever would cause I could care less about supporting him. I dont know what you're basing your "star support" claim on.
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que
from vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-05 16:13 [#00112753]
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keep the artists in their place, download/dont buy :)
no, i wouldnt buy global goons stuff, ill always download it cos hes already rich enough
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-03-05 16:27 [#00112772]
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Taoist, that is ideal.
Recent CD's I've purchased: Drukqs, Geogaddi etc. (huge artists)
Downloaded: Cex, Global Goon, Bochum Welt...smaller names.
The point is, I should be buying the albums of the small artists, but I do just the opposite. I know that alot of people act in the same way that I do...that's what I base my claim on.
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que
from vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-05 16:30 [#00112776]
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i try to base it on their income, i'll never buy aphex/boc/autechre/squarepusher in the future just download. but will spend money on venetians sanre etc
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-03-05 20:55 [#00113092]
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Did it ever occur to you that they wouldn't release music if they could not make a profit off it?
These "stars" as you call them are not fabulously wealthy...and they don't have "real" jobs to pay the bills.
Would you bother doing something if it was your livelyhood but couldn't make a profit off it to support yourself?
Downloading is fine for previewing, since nobody should be made to keep a record they don't like, but if you like it, buy it - it's the least you can do to support their art and keep them making more music you like.
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val
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-05 21:04 [#00113097]
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well said, joyrex. to quote 'que': "i try to base it on their income"... LOL, since when did you know what their income is?
if people like you had anything approaching a realistic idea of what these artists actually earn, you'd soon change your attitude. they are not millionaires by any stretch of the imagination.
and warp, far from being a huge cynical corporation, are in fact a small tight-knit little company who put a lot of love into the music.
so try doing some research before you start mouthing off on these forums.
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Archrival
on 2002-03-05 21:10 [#00113105]
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Yeah I made a topic about this earlier, the warp artists aint that rich, I mean none of them sold gold or platinum and I know a lot of broke gold artists.
I dont think Richard is worth 5000 dollars for a one hour DJ set tho, but keep it real and buy good artists records, they need it.
How much has MHTRTC sold?
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Archrival
on 2002-03-05 21:10 [#00113106]
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gold album = 500 000 units.
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Archrival
on 2002-03-05 21:11 [#00113107]
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I dont think BOC has sold over 100 000?? correct me if im wrong.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-03-05 21:24 [#00113130]
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I would be suprised if MHTRTC sold over 50,000, that would be a huge run for this type of release. Hopefully someone has more concrete facts about this, Ive often wondered how many copies of these albums are sold. I think I remember reading somewhere though that Autechre sells around 20,000 of their albums and surely they have more fans than Boc. (at least in the past they have)
Im not totally positive about any of this though so no one rip my head off if im wrong.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-05 21:37 [#00113150]
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i remember reading that one of squarepusher albums moved 75 000...
and that was his most popular i think
so do u guys actually know how much these artists make?
if so, check out my "IDMoney" topic! dont delay, click your way there today! thats I-D-M-o-n-e-y! one more time: "IDMoney" see you there!
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-03-05 21:43 [#00113158]
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what!!! warp artists are not rich superstars!?!?! I can't beleive it!! LOL rich is rich i think...
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blue_clax
from Edmonton (Canada) on 2002-03-05 22:54 [#00113243]
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I beleave in supporting artists. Sure I download Mp3s, but make sure to buy the cd if I injoy it. However I dont beleave it is stealing if you have downloaded an album that you would never buy, like the Chemical Brothers new album... I would never buy it and rarly listen to it, so whats the harm in having the mp3s? But as far as music i listen to such as Aphex Twin. I buy every album i can get my hands on. Why?? because i injoy it... i dont care if RDJ is getting filthy rich. He makes excilent music and i think he deservses my money.
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-03-05 23:02 [#00113258]
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i think they were just expressing their drug filled trips. listen for all the bong hits in the back ground. i've heard em numerous times.
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Canerfold
from Minneappleseed (United States) on 2002-03-06 04:01 [#00113460]
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I would never buy an album based on the income of the artist. The albums I like the most I spend money on so that I can have legit copies with the highest quality sound. The albums I want but can't affors, I download. Simple as that. Vatican Nitez is real nice, but aopinion about Geogaddi is just that, opinion. I really don't understand the difficulty folks have distinguishing their opinions from facts. And of all topics... music! How subjective is music?
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