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cant decide which one to get. if youve got either one, please write me a few 'graphs about it. im real attracted to it cause its just a straight up sequencer/sampler w/ some good effects. es-1 would save me about 100 or so dollars, es-1 MKII would cost about that much more but i can't really tell what the benefits of getting it are yet besides those few couple of effects listed on the site pic of es-1 |
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es-1 MkII |
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mkII looks better... |
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The difference is that the Wah effect has been replaced by Modulation Delay, but in use they are exactly the same. The MK2 does look much better in a studio IMO :P |
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i used the es1 and i think both are good boxes choose it by the colors and buttons,what do you like more? |
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if its about cosmetics im all about that big black dial and the green patch... haha |
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I don't own either version of the ES, however, I do own both the MK1 EA-1 and ER-1. The main revision in the new version electribes (as people have said, in terms of features, the changes are minimal) is their robustness. The old ones aren't exactly fragile, but the cases "flex" a bit under pressure and the knobs feel like they could be damaged easily. There is also an issue with the black jog wheel (used for selecting patterns); even if you're careful with it, the do go 'off' overtime and get loose and inaccurate, ie you sometimes go too far through the patterns, or not far enough. Both of mine do it, but they have had heavy use and were second hand when I got them. I'm not the only person to notice this and I've seen reviews that say the new jog wheel seems a lot more robust/precise. I have "gigged" my electribes several times, but they don't have that feeling of strong build quality that makes you completely comfortable with moving them round that some kit does. So, overall I'd say; If they'll be used almost exclusively in your studio and money is an issue, get the mk1. If you want it to last for years and can afford it, I'd got for the mk2. There may also be the advantage of the new ES that it could take a better/bigger form of memory card, but I don't know that, I'm just speculating based on knowing that the old one was quite limited and it'd be something I'd update if I was the manufacturer. Hope this helps. |
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The ES-MK2 only can get up to 64 MB Smart media cards. And those are very rare to get (if you're lazy and total unfamiliar with the internet ;-) ). |
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That's what the first one took, wasn't it? |
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i've got a E-SX |
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I think it was the same as the first ES1, but i don't know for sure since I never had one. |
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Is that the one that is an ES-1 with a few more features so it's more like an all in one groovebox, with a valve for pseudo-analogue sound? What's it like? |
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it is good |
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Is it actually comprehensive enough to do whole tracks on it? A lot of supposed all in one grooveboxes I've used like the MC-303 have been sorely lacking and only really any good for minimal techno. |
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The ES-MK2 has a sort of song mode on it, in which you can put up to 256 patterns, off course variating from 12 or 16 up to 64 steps. So it is possible. The complete electribe series really have astounded me from the start, because they give give so much flexibility in such a tiny and strong case. EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE ONE!!!! (Except the EA1 which is truly rubish) |
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i guess so, the manual is written so that i can not understand it |
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Was it the japanese manual? :D No, just kidding, i never had to use the manual, because the electribes are so easy in use. I must say, that i've had all three of them, and since i traded my ER-1 for a ES-1 MK2 I was completely hooked on it :P Both the ER-1 and the EA1 are just simple toys in comparison to the ES1, I only want the ER1 back for the freaky sounds it has to offer with the 4 synth parts. |
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I think the ER-1 is one of the few "budget" bits of kit that really is worth having, even if you have a better drum machine and a "money is no object" budget. I agree that if you've got a decent synth the EA-1 is pretty poor, but it's not as bad as a lot of people make out. It annoys me a bit when people write off the ER-1 the same way they do the EA-1 (which is more understandable), just because it's in the same family of gear. It's great for getting analogue sounding vintage drum sounds and is a really versatile bit of gear for "playing along"/bridging tracks when DJing. |
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My housemate recently bought the MKII and its wicked, err can't really compare to the MKI cos i aint used one but yeh ^_^ |
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jam any one? there seems to be few of us with the electribe series and other snyths how about we "JAM ON IT"-(from newcleus) come on lets head over to ninjam.com, and we can play music over line, with our own instruments :D just post here when you're ready anyone btw it also lets you record your sessions :D :D :D :D |
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hey does anyone want to jam with our instruments? we can do it overline :D |
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When i'm at home from work i will try it, what kind of gear do you use, besides your electribe? |
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i use a microkorg, electribe, i sometimes play a bit of bass guitar, and softsynth(cs-80v arturia), i play it threw an m-box, do you know anything about this thing called rewire, can't you patch programs to different signals or something like that? |
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I don't use soft synths at all, I never heard of rewire before, i just read that it can be used to patch vst's into other programs, but don't ask me how. I just use hardware to do all my musicmaking. |
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:D disscuss music |
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break. |
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All I can say is that the SmartCard function on the ES-1 sucks. I can't use it. |
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I also had my problems in the beginning, but later I discovered that it came down to just cutting the samples properly as mono samples, and then you can load them in the ES-1 and then you can pretty much do anything you want with them. |
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I have a korg EM-1 My opinions are useless in this thread. |
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Is that the one that's basically an EA-1 and an ER-1 combined? |
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yeah i know the es-1 inside out. got a lot of use out of it but it does has some really annoying restrictions. you can only have 9 samples on hand at any one time. as futureimage pointed out the smart card is really dodge, its far too easy to save over your songs. another thing that really shat me was the global delay. you cant assign it to any one sample. once you fire it up the total output is effected. but you know for what it is, its great fun. so long as you dont do what i did and buy it for the price of a small car! |
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if you hook it up to a sequencer, hardware or otherwise via midi then it really comes to life. |
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on the plus side its an absolute walk in the park to use. i remember the old ensoniq asr-10 sounds way better and has all the tricks you could want, but its almost indecipherable, and with ensoniq being extinct and all, is also unsupported. |
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i'm selling mine es-1 cause i have esx now, all tis electribe stories are so fun. i wanted to sell er-1 too, but i when hear that ring modulation with audio in....no no no! |
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blobula: i got the red esx which do you got? rockenjohnny: rockenjohnny? hello i see your from perth, got a website with your music/art? |
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sure, last time i put something together was in 2003. is my best work. |
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and did live stuff in our old band |
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gday mr.hope lifes treating you well. i still have many days were i miss the great OZ. |
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if you have an ES-1 or ES-1 MKII can you have samples be gated for example they stop as soon as it starts again, etc |
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yes you can. you can have two samples in one pattern cutting a sample before, hope you understand zero-cool : there's only one esx and it's red emx is blue |
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gday mate. i ended up getting a bit sick yesterday, just pulled myself out of bed then! the missus took good care of me though, fed me lots of toast and vegemite :) |
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yeah as blobula says you can do an artificial gate by playing the same sample right after itself with 0 velocity. that one way an external sequencer comes in handy, in fine tuning the step notation. but its still not the real deal. there is a proper gating function but its not real time, its stuck in the sample edit mode, and you have to save immediately after each adjustment. |
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does rokenjohnny or any other person here wanna post a picture of their equiptment :) |
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right now it occupies the top shelf of my cupboard and a bunch of shopping bags |
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Thats what korg gear was designed for. |
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I have no idea! lol |
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Is it combined a synth and drum machine with no sampling capability? |
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EMX is that it's cool that you have synth parts immediately playable on its 'keyboard' |
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Does the synth have 2 parts (both monophonic)? Ie you can do a bass on one and have a different sound playing a seperate lead melody? |
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I think the EMX has about 5. It's the EA-1 that has 2. |
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