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Hello :) This is my first post here after visiting for quite some time. Im interested in finally making my own music. I already own a couple of hardware synths (one midi controller) aswell as many soft synths. I have a decent computer but its obviously not optimized for music production. I have a budget of about $1000. What hardware do i need? What other software? Im a novice to much of this and really have no idea how to get started. Im interested in making electronic music in the vein of Boards of Canada but certainly not limited to this. Id appreciate any advice. Thanks :) |
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Welcome to the board faile! I'm one of the few members not dreaming of becoming a musician, so I can't help. In some hours there will be a lot of members online, so I guess there will be some useful replies then. |
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beats me buddy just have a jam at ninjam.com check it out, you can play with others online like through streaming and shit, all you need to do plug your syths/or intruments, like the synth into your line in or mic in check it out |
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do your thing dude |
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monitor speakers i guess |
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most members already are musicians, though, and are not just dreaming about becoming one. |
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beats me i can't make music for fuck |
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Of course |
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obviously you are going to want to record the music somehow. there are a few different ways to go about this, such as using a computer vs. analog equipment. the computer route is probably the cheapest, especially if you already have a decent computer. i will explain using a computer. i would recommend downloading demos (or use a peer to peer application to get a copy) of software to see what kind works for you. i personally use Ableton Live 5 (for sequencing, vst's, and all my midi needs) and Adobe Audition (for recording and fine tweeking of audio) on a PC. someone above mentioned monitors. monitors are almost more important than your computer because they will effect the quality of the sound of your music. for example, you can make an amazing beat with your computer and dinky computer speakers, but when you play it in your car or on good speakers, it sounds like shit. having decent monitors will help you shape your sounds more accurately. another aspect to consider is your sound card. you can get a decent sound card for less than $100 US. since you are a beginer, i would recommend something inexpensive and simple such as this: . it's got 1 midi in/out, 1 rca in, and 1 rca out. that will really be all you need for now. another thing to consider regarding your sound card is that it will need to work with whatever monitors you get. the best advice i can offer you is to do three things - play/practice music all the time, read up on music theory, recording, etc, and to talk to anyone and everyone about making music that will talk to you about it. most musicians like to teach beginers and if you go to a store, i'm sure they'd help you as well. there are a ton of resources on the internet for producing music, getting started, and the technology involved. read up! you can learn a lot with this internet thing. |
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Just get Reason or Cubase, learn how to use them first |
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Dont make music because music(and wonna be famous). make music for fun. Try out synths, softwares, VSTs, etc and play around. |
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sony just dropped acid 6 (with full-on dual core support yay!) |
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and as sound cards go, the e-mu 1820 works wonders! |
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wellcome to the board. spend all your money on a machine drum and then play a set to your friends naked. it will be the best thing youve ever done. |
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Just sit down and make tunes, at first they will suck, but in some years you will improve. |
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With 1000 bucks, you have a computer already, download the demo to FL Studio, Abelton, and Reason, visit asltalavista.com and crack them all. Then use your money for a good set of studio moniters, a synth with MIDI capabilities, a MIDI controller (with key's and knobs and sliders), and a guitar. then get a decent microphone, XLR with an adapter for your computer. |
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you could fork out less than a 100 quid on a 4 track recorder, a decent mic and some prime ideas, that way you wont fall into a comfy way of making tracks.. i dunno, advice?, you're not baking a cake |
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i suggest fruity loops 5 or FL5 |
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Get drum machine. Program beat. Prepare for failure. Fail. Fail better. Repeat. |
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Welcome Faile sir... I would say that you don't need to look too far to be able to make a little music. Especially if you're starting... Get yourself a little sequencer, or a nice little piece of music production softwares.... (many possibilities for both).... Just need to pick the one you're the most compelled with.... Like Axion said.... Just do your thing paL. The possibilities are endless. PEACE |
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buy a guitarr... |
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you'll need about 5-6 grand + 4 years of painstaking 'messing around' with various software... which sounds more fun than it is... and it doesn't sound fun at all. |
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play the spoons,thats a cheap way. |
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get a subscription to www.computermusic.co.uk mag, and try to get a hold of earlier copies. |
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id say go the hardware route if you have an ok budget, you already have some hardware synths? id reccomend a drum machine like an electribe.. some will say theyre sucky and too beginner-ey but that doesnt really matter, its what you do with it, and theyre good. for fucks sake they can be found for ~200 dollars software can get boring while learning it, and of course frustrating. while i was learning all the software i know now, i got extremely bored and frustrated very fast versus when i was able to use friends hardware and do all that shit at the press of a finger, at good speed.... now that i can whip out stuff faster now (with software) its like my laptops the ultimate beat machine. took me a year to get that good with it though and im still learning shit loads every time, both about music and the tools i think it would be better to have one piece of hardware and be extremely good at it versus trying to throw a bunch of music around with tons of pieces of soft that you arent fully versed in. i mean look at how autechre rock bodies with a machinedrum and a monomachine? then look at someone like the grey music project who have like thousands of dollars of equipment and laptops onstage and do "glitch-hop" |
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Find a solid sequencer that works for you. I like mpc's. With $1000 you can get yourself a mpc1000 that gives you enough midi channels to run an entire studio. |
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Thanks for the advice guys, just for the record i said im mainly inspired by Boards of Canada, but i should clarify I didnt care too much for their last album. It was a bit too.... generic for my tastes, im more a fan of the early stuff. Anyhow from what ive gathered, since i already have a couple of synths/midi controller and a computer, I basically need a good sound card, some sequencer software and some monitors. i was checking out the Tascam FW1082 Firewire DAW Controller for $600, what are your thoughts on it? It comes bundled with GigaStudio 3 LE & Steinberg Cubase LE 48-track 96kHz workstation software, is this suitable for what i want to do? |
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What sort of midi latency can you get in Ableton Live/FL Studio 5/Reason with that M-Audio card? |
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boc use a method of making music only i know how :D + :) = ;| |
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Anyone know of any good audio cards for a laptop (that is, external, I guess?)? (Sorry for thread hijacking) Would the E-mu 1820 that mastah mentions work well-- not that it is not from a reputable source, I just cant tell if it works with a laptop? |
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i'm not into soundcards, meaning i don't know what they in terms of quality what is the diffrenence of say one like i've got which is a realtek standard cards that come with all computer, and a high priced one? anything to do with the bit quality? |
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