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anyone know of good examples of artists who make good music using limited means, such as crappy gear, or not "pro" gear, or a limited selection of sounds throughout the album. i was thinking how interesting it would be to hear an album that used all the same drum sounds and bass sounds throughout but still for some reason was good. it would take alot of effort to give it life. groups like aphex and autechre seem to be the opposite of this, every song has its own set of new sounds. not to down that in the least its amazing, it just got me thinking of the opposite. |
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hell yeah that's the way to go, man! BTW, i was born in Sacramento. |
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Some really early Boards of Canada is on pretty shady gear and it still sounds great, I really like that lo-fi sound. I think its hard to classify anything as "pro gear" because often the artists want it to sound crap.(as in the sounds) I find theres only so much of that pristine "pro" sound one can take. |
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I know a lot of groups that make bad music with really good equipment. |
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doesn't squarepusher use really cheap old hardware? i heard that some where. |
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I couldn't tell you if it's good, you'd have to decide for yourself... but I definately use crappy "non pro" gear (modplug tracker) and I've used a small selection of the saaaaame samples. It's at www.mp3.com/artificialselection. Also www.mp3.com/hanniz and www.mp3.com/astrix get by quite nicely with limited sound pallettes. www.mp3.com/imaginary too. I heard otto von schirach doesn't use top notch equipment and matmos said they don't need great expensive equipment to make good stuff either. |
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yeah, your music is good. |
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Thanks, I value your opinion. |
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bogdan made boku mo wakaran and samurai math beats (as well as his other albums im sure) on one piece of free software... i also use only two freeware softwares and a few samples to make music...as for it being good...well..i like it..im not sure if anyone else would...ill allow you to figure that out for yourself: http://www.ampcast.com/cerulean |
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otto von schirach is pretty cool... i have his 8000bc disc |
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yeah, your music is good. .... deja vu |
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8000 bc is my favorite (escalo frio seemed less thought out). 8000 bc is simply wicked. Good lord. And he's a loon too, with the crazy lyrics like "a magic piece of mushroom", but it's all distorted in the most wickedly cartoony way. It's one of my top 3 favorite cd's probably. |
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"that does not satisfy my logic circuits" what a great ending... what a wicked album. It's pure evil. |
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lol... thats for sure! It was pure luck finding it. Just pick up a random disc from the electronica section and it ended up being a grate album! How often dose that happen! I was worried i would end up with another coaster. XD |
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where do you people shop?? I'd never find that anywhere around here, not even autechre. You must waste loads of money doing it that way though... You've heard of soulseek or morpheus or whatever right? Where you can hear before you buy? Try www.forcedexposure.com for a great selection too. |
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where do you live m? ive seen that otto von shirach album at the store around here before..i think theres even a copy in the used bin..ill have to check it out... and yes forcedexposure does have a nice selection..also check out www.safetyinnumbers.com and www.skimo.com |
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I live poshnu, tuvalu. Man, one in the used bin even? If you havn't heard it get it!! It's not for everyone, but I guess we have fairly similar tastes. It's really technical, like almost showing off, good lord. Get that and crunch "1", get crunch especially if you like later autechre. It's more playful than autechre though. Thanks for the links. Musical selection in stores sucks here in poshnu, but at least there's online shopping! |
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tuvalu? why does your mp3.com page say your from california? |
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oh, er yeah, california, that's what I meant... |
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heheh...sorry to blow your cover.. |
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i made some breakbeats using a stapler and Cool Edit, but it would be wise of me to compose a song with the stapler in it to demonstrate on the MB. just a warning; i'm a procrastinator |
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DJ Premier creates classic after classic with the same drums sounds (even same patterns) and same bass and hi only almost uses his old Akai sampler (vinyl and tunrtable ofcourse) and a midi keyboard to trigger the samples :) I dont understand how I cant be bored after a decade of Primo and he still havent made a wack beat :) |
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AFX early material was pretty lo fi but good and BOC too I heard Drexciya used mostly uses analog stuff, old synths only vintage stuff like moogs n sfuff like that. He went digital on his latest effort me think tho. The new BOC sounds kinda digital hi fi too. They said that they tried to make the sound as old as possible tho. |
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Squarepusher used a Boss DR660 drum machine for his early stuff. I had one, and I can tell you, they are hunks of shit. |
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i still use fruity which for some reason a load of people consider crap. but i woudlnt exactly consider my music good. so im sort of the opposite, depending on your opinion. uh? also rF uses fastracker. haha hpiece o shit! his music roxxor'sz, thuh. |
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man i like your music, it's really technical |
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MR.OIZO Attack Of The Analogue Worms He uses limited equipment & similar sounds in all his songs, yet they all kick ass. Very deep with booty bass. AWESOME. |
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yep analog worms attack has good bass no doubt. |
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anyone ever listen to haujobb? sort of electro industrial band of a few years back. they used very little equipment. somethinglike one synth and a sequencer. check it!!! |
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i don't even have a keyboard or a proper soundcard, yet my music is fantastic. i have been called a genius so many times that i am immune to praise -- now i just seek solace in cheap name-calling... please, call me horrible horrible names so i can rough it up |
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squarepusher uses a few bits of very expensive gear now-a-days, including 2 orville harmonizers. i'm nearly positive that matmos and otto just don't want to give away their secrets. they're both modern software junkies. |
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it really doesnt matter what kind of stuff you use though. i use fruity loops too but i use it more as a sketch pad. i get some real rough ideas then i export all the waves and fuck em up more with soundforge and acid. then i add some more stuff on top off of anythin i can plug into my mixer/computer like my turntables, my bass, my cat... |
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all of my music is made on free and shareware..floops i use is demo version |
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i prefer crappy software w/ltd possibilities. |
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indeed - that way you get good a using crappy sounds opposed to being crap at using good sounds :) |
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not that crappy sounds are all that bad |
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damn.. doesn't really work - |
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you've read my mind, korben. |
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hey that Biomorphic Cookies trac from artificial selection was the best one on there |
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crappy gear encourages experimentation and creativity..good gear encourages settling for first non crappy sounding preset and hence crappy product as a whole..it also encourages gearwhoredom |
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indeed - thats what i meant. personally i quite like lo-fi .. so the argument doesn't really work. |
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artificial selection is insane..if he hasn't pushed the limits of a tracker and blasted em to kingdom come.. I dont know who else |
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the bits about presets I was quoting YOU directly there Korben :) |
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hehe .. thought it sounded familiar. :) |
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So so tired ...............can't see stright anymore !!!THE BARON HAS SPOKEN!!!! |
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but then again there's people like Devine with all the gear at their disposal doing amazing stuff with it PS:I am d/l tracks off aleamapper ;) |
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I agree with everything said about the pros of using "crappy" equipment/software... of course it's still great... magic... organizing stuff compared to, say, a piano which didn't take advantage of the computer. And thanks pachi, that song was a remix for a friend on the internet, so I wanted to make something good, like a finished product sorta, not just experiments like most of my stuff. I think it's quite funny to get crazy sounds out of a freeware tracker... being limited forced me to create my own short cuts and techniques... I wonder what I could do with good equipment because of this now. Of course, it would probably be good to have good equipment right from the start... if you wanted to limit yourself, you could... if you could resist the temptation to take advantage of the equipment's ability all the time, not your brain's. |
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from what I heard I liked lipswitch better than aleamapper... aleamapper seemed ambient sorta. I havn't heard either album enough though. I think I like otto von schirach 8000 bc better though. Richard Devine has some wicked tracks on "ischematic folks" too, a schematic compilation. |
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