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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-03-31 04:22 [#01869877]
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LSD,have you take it? experience,thinkins,perceptions
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-03-31 04:24 [#01869880]
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Fun but dangerous, I rather go the Mushroom way...
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-03-31 04:29 [#01869885]
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i agree mate
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-03-31 04:30 [#01869886]
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que pollas i agree,eres de mallorca,que si tio tienes toda la razon,hongos mucho mejor,y con caution tambien :O) enjoy
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2006-03-31 04:31 [#01869887]
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no, never. never, no
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-03-31 04:33 [#01869890]
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no no, no no no no, no no no no, no no there's no limit
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-03-31 04:34 [#01869891]
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Jeje!
Y nada de resaca maniacodepresiva!
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-03-31 04:39 [#01869893]
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no no no? theres no limit in what thing?
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evils
on 2006-03-31 04:45 [#01869900]
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techno techno techno
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anon
from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-31 04:47 [#01869902]
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I've never done LSD myself...But a few of my mates have...one of which can now only drink alcohol , because anything else sends him spiraling into the depths of his trip...
But.. I've heard it's an amazing trip,and an excellent experiance, from other friends.Who had nothing bad happen to them,
and haven't since.. I guess like anything else .. Its never 100% what's going to happen..
Tbh... i think LSD is a bit too dangerous- But that's only my opinion ...and it could be ''wrong'' ..so do as you please and have fun
=D
-A-
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-03-31 04:54 [#01869905]
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no. seems to go wrong quite a lot and it lasts for a very long time. mushrooms are enough.
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evils
on 2006-03-31 05:01 [#01869908]
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see Roky Erikson and Syd Barrett
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-03-31 05:01 [#01869909]
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american soldiers in Vietnam used l_s_d, look what they did
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-31 05:05 [#01869911]
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Did about a hundred trips, last one went tits up, stick to shrooms now.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2006-03-31 06:06 [#01869930]
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i love acid. i think it's the greatest thing in the world. i live for drugs.
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oyvinto
on 2006-03-31 06:09 [#01869932]
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you should have a word with oliver stone.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-03-31 06:17 [#01869934]
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Only had it 3 times but that was enough, couldn't handle the last one at all. 10-12 hours is too much for me, really. When it's good it's very good, but when it's bad it's AWFUL, i've sworn off acid for a few years.
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-03-31 06:30 [#01869941]
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Nah, don't touch the stuff. I just smoke crack part time with my hero Snares.
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behindthebeats
on 2006-03-31 07:05 [#01869965]
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pure lsd 25 is the answer.... its very rare on the ground now though. i could eat it everyday if it wasnt for the tolerance. it is pure adrenaline/ecstacy i.e pure bodily pleasure. no paranoia unlike mushrooms which are always heaven followed closely by hell for me.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2006-03-31 08:36 [#01869980]
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it's as dangerous as climbing mount everest i think. there's a reason to go there, but not for everyone. if you treat it like a holiday, a vacation, a pleasure retreat, you're creating the danger yourself. i don't mean to say you shouldn't have fun or adventure, only that you should understand your motives.
telling you what happened when i took acid would be like telling you what i dreamt last night. for me it might be confusing or deeply meaningful; to you it will be mildly amusing at best. there's plenty of vicarious experience in the erowid vaults.
in my humble opinion, the world we think we know is like mistaking an oil slick on the ocean for the ocean itself. if i learned anything from acid, it's that humbling fact.
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-03-31 09:18 [#01870013]
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changes
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xkejjer
from Malta on 2006-03-31 10:09 [#01870052]
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mushrooms are a very very very very poor man's lsd. lsd is not any more dangerous than other drugs. you cannot od on lsd, i have never heard of anyone seriuosly injuring themselves. you just have to be careful of where to take it and try to not drive until at least 10-12 hours after taking it as bodily sensations feel weird even after the visuals/hallucinations/perceptions fade out.
it's a great thing, acid.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2006-03-31 10:16 [#01870060]
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unfortunately you're ignorant of the medical record. you certainly can od on lsd, and it will take you months to recover. you certainly can take too much lsd, and you may develop permanent perceptual distortions.
moderation is the key. then again, you had better be prepared to accept the consequences of your choices.
hope this doesn't sound self-righteous or whatever, i do have strong opinions about the issue and have spent a lot of time with it.
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xkejjer
from Malta on 2006-03-31 10:19 [#01870062]
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i am saying that to od you need to take quite a lot. i mean, a person who takes 20 tabs of acid probably deserves to od on account of his stupidity. but if you take up to 3, then it's quite impossible to od. you can get lost inyour thoughts, but you'll get out of it in less than a day.
and i like your last paragraph, i agree. the world we know is not necessarily the real world, it is just the world which is available to our senses.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-03-31 10:29 [#01870073]
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LSD isnt dangerous.
You are as likely to od on cheerios as lsd.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-03-31 10:33 [#01870076]
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done it about 10 times threw up after every trip can have bad trips, almost told inlaws i was on drugs downward spiral very fast bugs on skin my skin was peelings, thought i was dying stay at home or in a car w/out keys never do acid again
do schrooms, i couldnt have a bad trip, i kiinda tried i was inside my wife, two people one body good times no throwup
whatever.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2006-03-31 10:38 [#01870082]
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you're right that no one will od on 3 hits.
i used to be very enthusiastic about encouraging people to experiment with it, based on my experiences. knowing now the wide range of human personality and physiology i take a more cautionary position.
like a lot of people, i started out taking acid for fun. i can't personally see it as fun anymore, however. i haven't taken acid in more than ten years.
anyway, two cents for what it's worth.
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2006-03-31 10:39 [#01870083]
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What are you talking about lsd isn't dangerous?! Even if you only take it once, if you don't react well to it, you can get flashbacks at any time again in your life, even if you never touch it again.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-03-31 10:41 [#01870086]
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exactly
ive never had any flashbacks
but lsd are CHEMICALS you have no fcuking idea whats in them, you just somehow trust them
same as the different levels of schrooms
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xkejjer
from Malta on 2006-03-31 10:42 [#01870087]
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they are a totally different kind of fun. they are really really mind and personality altering, at least for the duration of the trip. they are totally different from other drugs, which can be controlled in one way or another. if you're too high on pills, you can smoke shitloads of weed, but nothing will stop a trip and you can't really predict how long it will be unless you've taken trips out of the same sheet before.
bad trips. hmm. i've never had the misfortune of one happenning to me, but i can imagine them being shitty. your mind at that altered state dissects every little thing, analyses everything almost ridicolously and everything takes on a wholly different meaning, now if at the centre of that there's sadness and bad things, i can imagine it being incredibly bad.
dunno, in my classification of drugs, i think thye're my favourite.
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xkejjer
from Malta on 2006-03-31 10:43 [#01870089]
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that flashback talk is highly exaggerated. i know numerous people who trip, no one has ever had an acid flashback. i think for a flashback to happen you have to spend continous days strung up on acid.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2006-03-31 10:44 [#01870091]
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i have to address the issue of flashbacks. i spent a lot of time investigating that claim, and i've spoken to specialists in that field. by and large, the phenomenon is an exception to the rule.
also, people who take a lot of lsd tend to be indiscriminate pill poppers, and may frequently take other drugs simultaneously.
flashbacks should be the least of your worries.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2006-03-31 10:46 [#01870094]
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imo, a "flashback" is essentially a manifestation of a post-traumatic stress disorder. unquestionably, some trips can be traumatic, and severely so.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-03-31 10:48 [#01870098]
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mushrooms are very dangerous to me some of my friends hardly trip at all (they say). me, i always go into meltdown mode at some point right after peaking
it's sooo bad :( but i still do them occasionally for some reason.
it is because of this that i dont even think about trying lsd.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2006-03-31 10:49 [#01870099]
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for the record, the only time i had a really bad time was when i smoked pot while i was tripping. confusion, inability to transfer my experience to memory, convinced i was dying, etc.
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behindthebeats
on 2006-03-31 11:07 [#01870117]
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elusive I know what you mean about mushrooms. I have had many a bad mushroom trip always towards the end. red wine is a good quick antidote to this. good acid on the other hand is completely 'in my body' it doesnt affect my mind in the same way mushrooms do - much more control. It does depend big time on the type of acid u ingest tho.... saying that even the worst mushroom trips have added something to my life.
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xkejjer
from Malta on 2006-03-31 11:28 [#01870128]
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that's weird. i never encountered anyone saying that they felt weird whilst smoking pot and tripping. actually, whenever i smoke during a trip, the inhalation of smoke (be it pot, be it a normal ciggie) feels extremely weird.
the closest thing i got to a bad trip was when i was tripped and popped 3 pills during a party. that was mind shattering.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-03-31 11:53 [#01870155]
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I've had some of the most fun and the most scary moments of my life while on LSD. Starting in the Summer of 1995, a friend and I probably killed 100 hits between us in about 6 months. That was the best time to do it. Just graduated highschool. No responsibilities. No stress. But once I had my first really bad trip, every experience afterward was tainted. Haven't had any for years now. I guess i'm basically done with hallucinating. It's true, trips really are for kids.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-03-31 11:56 [#01870160]
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My first really bad trip was triggered because i smoked a ton of pot while i was peaking on about 4 hits of strong micro-dot.
I was lost in my mind. I was hallucinating so strong that i couldn't tell if my eyes were open or shut. I couldn't tell where i was in my friends house. I couldn't tell if i was speaking or just thinking conversations with people around me. I got stuck in a loop where in my head i would walk downstairs, fall into the basement, then i would be lying on my back upstairs in bed. I'd get up again, walk downstairs and fall into the basement.
It went on like this for about 10 hours. Worst experience of my life.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-03-31 11:59 [#01870163]
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i will tell that story to my kids one day if i may. fucking terrible.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-03-31 12:07 [#01870168]
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A lot of older people, 30+ who say taking acid never affected them but they mostly have a slightly retarded edge to their character that I don't like the look of.
Another good reason not to take acid is you become one of these fucking annoying 'you cant percieve reality until you something something a tree blah blah blah in space floating through the centre of a clock's urethra with your umbilical cord tied to the hilt of your adamantium sword...'
I don't know I mean I realise it is 'mind expanding' but this is not wisdom you have gained, honestly
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xkejjer
from Malta on 2006-03-31 12:31 [#01870180]
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everyone'#s mentioning the bad trips, which are quite rare, i never had one. and for every bad trip, there are tens of good trips, which everyone should admit that they;'re great.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-03-31 12:43 [#01870190]
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true, it's just the bad ones that are the easiest for me to remember.
i had many amazing experiences too. my favorite experiences I've spoken about here before.
for example, i dropped about 3 or 4 hits with a few friends of mine during college. It was evening and there was this incredible wind storm outside. we went out walking and there were branches and garbage and all kinds of shit blowing around everywhere. it was like being in some post-apocalyptic film.
we were out in Red Square, a huge outdoor area at the university of Washington that is all brick and about the size of 2 soccer fields. we were all talking about how thirsty we were and we were entertaining the idea of seeking out a vending machine.
we were standing in the middle of the square in a group when all of a sudden, this bottle of ocean spray juice rolls up to my friends foot, seemingly out of nowhere. he bends down, picks it up and turns the cap. it made that POP sound because it hadn't been opened yet. We were dumbfounded. we shared this bottle of juice in the middle of this insane windstorm. it is probably the only experience of my entire that i would say felt religious, like god answered our call for refreshment and sent us juice.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-03-31 13:56 [#01870227]
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im just posting because people would expect it of me by now.
yay drugs. havent done true acid tho (was lsa or something else) but im surprised at people who say they can do mushrooms better than acid cuz ive always heard the opposite (the paranoia on mushrooms gets too heavy for me, havent done in over a year now)
wow, i havent even tripped on anything in over a year. crazy.
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xkejjer
from Malta on 2006-03-31 15:37 [#01870305]
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mushrooms better than acid? no way..
let me put it like this..
mushroom would be a diluted orange squash acid would be the real orange, which could be too bitter or strong for some people but objectively speaking, is the real thing.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-31 16:57 [#01870345]
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I can barely deal with marijuana without suffering from some sort of bizzare panic-attack, so I doubt acid or shrooms would be positive for me. It's a shame, really-I'd love to experience "tripping". I just think it would probably go wrong, especially considering how awful my last few stoned sessions have been...(paranoia, panic, weird heart beats, strange breathing etc...)
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-31 18:55 [#01870369]
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mushrooms can be much stronger than acid it depends where you get them from,how fresh,how big,etc. the best patches always have big fat spiders gaurding them in autumn
like marshy patches in between the reeds on top of the mountain
dont fuck with PROPER mushrooms, acid can be a piece of piss compared i say
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-31 19:06 [#01870370]
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yo cs2x have you tried doing some exercise like going on a walk and getting your enomorphins going then have a smoke? try it bet it'll chill u out
endomorphins.seriously.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-03-31 19:37 [#01870374]
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in my experience, mushrooms were always kinder to me than acid. like no body aches, no stomach cramps, no 5 hour lingering let down perioud after 10 hours of psychological mayhem.
i like how mushrooms come on gently, last for 5 or 6 hours, then dissapate peacefully.
but there is something to be said for that 10 hours of LSD induced psychological mayhem. sometimes that's just what the doctor ordered.
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xkejjer
from Malta on 2006-03-31 22:16 [#01870388]
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yes, they are kinder, but that's because they are not as strong, not as trippy and not as mind altering. like you can get stomach pains from eating real oranges, but not from drinkinng orange squash
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