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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-03-16 14:23 [#01861357]
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Now, lets discuss Ochre - A Midsummer Nice Dream [toy 19cd].
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big
from lsg on 2006-03-16 14:24 [#01861358]
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i dont know it
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-03-16 14:26 [#01861362]
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The vinyl version is coming my way.. at least I hope so as Warpmart send me a Tresor.103 LP instead of this..
Anyway, this is a release full of sweet melodies (glitchy at places), phat beats and a subtle depth in the musical layers.
I personally like the fact that it's obvious who influenced him, like for example Brian Eno's - The Big Ship, Autechre, Aphex Twin and Plaid. So to me he belongs to the next generation of IDM.
I can't wait to hear something from the new album!
It seems to me that the title is influenced by William Shakespeare's "A Midsummer Night's Dream".
btw, the vinyl version should be added once v2 is up!
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-03-16 14:33 [#01861370]
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Here are some samples Mr.big
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big
from lsg on 2006-03-16 14:35 [#01861375]
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thank you, im now listening to sheffieldbleep, will check it out :)
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-03-17 14:47 [#01862166]
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bigbump
And?
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2006-03-17 14:52 [#01862170]
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ochre <3
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big
from lsg on 2006-03-17 14:57 [#01862177]
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it sounds a bit derivative to me, or internetartist i mean all those melodies sound 'lush' with all the reverb but i don't know what the glitches are good for, im not too moved
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-03-17 22:09 [#01862366]
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I like Ochre's music a lot. Maybe it's because he's just plain good or maybe he's derivative and I haven't yet heard any other music that sounds just like his. I do think it's a bit much to expect every new electronic album to break completely new ground like Aphex has done for most of his career. There can only be so many pioneers, you know? No one seems to mind that rock music today is just a rehashing of what was done in the 60s-80s. I think aesthetics is right to say that ochre is just part of the next generation of electronic. It doesn't bother me that his influences are the exact same as what mine would be if I was making electronic music right now.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-03-18 08:37 [#01862712]
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it just occured to me that I have a couple of Ochre's songs from the new album on my computer and I've never even listened to them...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-03-18 11:05 [#01862765]
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lots of people mind the rehashing of rock music, what are you on about?
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2006-03-18 11:07 [#01862769]
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this is the only release i've ever heard warp badmouth while promoting it at the same time
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big
from lsg on 2006-03-18 11:08 [#01862771]
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elaborate.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-03-18 11:18 [#01862781]
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yeah, actually you're right, a lot of people do mind. But those people are the minority compared to listeners of rock music on the whole. Once enough people get tired of it, maybe it will force the rock-music industry to change its formula.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2006-03-18 11:25 [#01862787]
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the description isn't up anymore, but when warp announced the stock of this record in their weekly product update, they kind of put the record down even though they were trying to sell it.
this was a negative post, i shouldn't of said anything.
the negative nancy flu of xltronic has got me
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big
from lsg on 2006-03-18 11:29 [#01862790]
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a well, good to know though
i didn't like posting i didn't really like it either
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csl
on 2006-03-18 13:43 [#01862864]
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...which is why they're now selling it for a fiver! you just can't shift shit music, eh?
and while we're collating negative reviews, i do believe boomkat took the time to point out multiple times that the record was hardly revolutionary. quotes include 'inoffensive', 'this isn’t exactly groundbreaking stuff', 'formulaic crunchy numbers', and finally, 'unchallenging'. and guess what... they still have it in stock too!
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big
from lsg on 2006-03-18 13:46 [#01862866]
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so am i wrong or is it a kid from here or watmm?
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big
from lsg on 2006-03-18 13:49 [#01862870]
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OCHRE - Sound System Bangers Vol. 1 Repeat CD // £ 4.99 OCHRE - Sound System Bangers Vol. 1, Repeat
Following a rapturously-received performance at london’s de rigeur “wheels instead of hooves” electronica showcase, the hotly-tipped Ochre releases a spine-tingling debut EP that will become an essential purchase for all fans of melodious i.d.m., maths degree and shabby beard not required. Ochre’s music is full of challenge and enquiry, yet it’s emotive electronic beauty creates an atmosphere accessible to all, with icy gloss, lush tones and succinct beats taking precedence over harsh effects or over-complicated editing. The open nature of his sound structure has the kind of visual suggestion that should, in an ideal world, find him soundtracking the next epic david attenborough natural history series. 5 tracks across almost 30 minutes, very nice indeed.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-03-18 14:27 [#01862892]
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You are right, he is(was?) a member here.
Revolutionary and/or groundbreaking it doesn't matter to me, this record is ace.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-03-18 14:50 [#01862910]
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the review over at Boomkat isn't as bad as that:
"More innofensive tricky IDM from Toytronic – the debut from Chris Leary under the Ochre moniker. This isn’t exactly groundbreaking stuff, you feel you’ve been here countless times before, but nonetheless the production is superb and Chris has a good understanding of melody structures that sees him through. The finest pieces here are more toned down, ambient stretches that work so much better than the formulaic crunchy numbers you’ll already know so well. All in all, good if unchallenging material, the debut Ochre release “Sound System Bangers Volume.1” disappeared in a flash and Toytronic has a habit of making its releases collectable before the month’s out – so if this is your bag ...don’t sleep."
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-03-18 18:37 [#01863016]
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Will someone please take a moment to explain to me how electronic music is at its best when it's "offensive"? Are they referring to harsh, grating tones that aren't pleasing to listen to, or simply throwing in lines like "c'mon you cunts lets have some afx acid" ? in either case, i'll take some more inoffensive IDM please.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-03-18 18:45 [#01863018]
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I think it's a pretty good album, I like Ochre. REM sleep research is an amazing track.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-03-18 20:07 [#01863045]
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I really think it's more about the word "inoffensive" as in: tame, not very exciting, won't make anyone raise an eyebrow, etc.
them using the term "inoffensive" does not automatically imply that "offensive" is the best option.
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440Hz
on 2006-03-19 14:30 [#01863469]
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yeah, the musicality really lets it down. perhaps if it were either unlistenable testosterone-soaked breakcore with nary a discernable key or chord, or high-brow art music consisting of nothing but sine waves above 12kHz, it may be considered breaking new ground. but no, he's gone for that well-worn path of tunefulness. granted, 3/4, 5/4, 7/4 and 11/4 are used throughout the album, but if there are no 128th-note amen snare rushes or dsp wibbly bits, then i'm not listening.
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-19 15:11 [#01863500]
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i would describe ochre's music and quite elaborate = partiucularly in a melodic sense - with rattling beats and distinct tunes weaving through the lush backgrounds - good music for watching cell division take place in a speeded up time :) he tends to use sounds that do hit the pur note rather than sounds that have a more dissonant or off-key / detuned nature and in that sense has a similarity in terms of melodic purity to very early electronic bands/artists.... technically - very very good and knows his stuff
catch him @ sheffield uni (UK) - this saturday
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440Hz
on 2006-03-19 15:57 [#01863519]
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word - Ochre owns, just doing his thing. can't wait to hear the new cd. benbecula have a couple of streams of tracks off the new lp Lemodie. sounds a bit different - i can see why it's not on toytronic. suits benbecula tho.
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Atli
from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2006-03-19 18:37 [#01863574]
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i've always liked his stuff very much.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-03-19 21:55 [#01863626]
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thank you for taking the words right out of my mouth.
oh, and welcome to the messageboard man! :)
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