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Combo
from Sex on 2006-03-08 12:28 [#01855668]
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I've heard in the news this morning that some shops in England are equiped with a system making a nasty loud treble sound, in order to make groups of chavs standing in front the shop go away. They also said only people under 25 years old could hear it. Is that really true ?? That's scary.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-03-08 12:30 [#01855672]
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ive heard about it actually
i think it rules
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-08 12:32 [#01855674]
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i think im safe
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2006-03-08 12:41 [#01855685]
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a chav deterrent?
people under 25 deterrent?
i want one for my apartment
(it cant work on young girls though, they're yummy)
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-03-08 12:43 [#01855690]
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this equipment costs around 900€... to make people above 25 run away, two loudspeakers and some merzbow blasting are the best solution
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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2006-03-08 12:44 [#01855693]
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I would propably feel old if I wasn't able to hear those noises
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somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2006-03-08 12:54 [#01855709]
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this is a fact. i read about this a while ago. for some reason, once you pass a certain age, your ears don't pick up on as many frequencies as before.
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oyvinto
on 2006-03-08 12:54 [#01855710]
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use heavy bass for old people. always work. it destoys their bone structure.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-03-08 12:57 [#01855713]
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this thing
personally i don't see the point, as it just gives the yoofs something else to throw bricks at.
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Combo
from Sex on 2006-03-08 13:14 [#01855727]
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"The only problem is that the youths have moved on and are now causing trouble elsewhere! "
This sentences sums up the situation very well...
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2006-03-08 13:19 [#01855732]
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i think more abortions would head this whole issue off at the pass
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-03-09 04:13 [#01856018]
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Yes, shop in my town where chav kids hang round outside was the first in the country to have one.
It's pretty stupid, because I've got fairly high freq. hearing (I can actually hear bat's "radar" sound) and it irritates me when I go into the shop (although you can only hear it outside) and dissuades me from shopping there. The bloke who makes them came across as a bit of a cunt in an interview I saw and he actually uses his own children to callibrate the things.
Personally, if I was a chav kid, I'd just chuck bricks at the thing until it shut up.
As combo says, it only makes them go elsewhere. So, other shops have to buy them and once they've stopped hanging around outside shops (or the nippers learn the hi-freq blocking merits of ear plugs), the parks/carparks/bus stops where they'll congregate instead will need to buy them. Bit of a moneyspinner for the bloke making them really.
I'd be suprised if some smartarse doesn't take them to court as a breach of human rights. It's "broadcast" from the front of the shop, but you can hear it in the bus stop right outside. I'd be well pissed off with it if I was a teenager legitmately catching a bus, with nothing to do with the shop and I was subjected to the noise.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-09 04:20 [#01856021]
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Its wierd that teenagers hang out in front of stores. I know that junkies like to hang out in front of stores and in store alcoves and such. I would be a lot more worried about junkies than teenagers, as junkies generally need to find one way or another to make their money to buy drugs, and that usually isn't going to work. It would be funny if the one thing that was detering the neighboorhood junkies from panhandling and breaking into the store was all the teenagers that were hanging out front.
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-03-09 04:20 [#01856022]
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I was also thinkin' there must be something illegal about that... I mean, if I take my monitors out the window and start blastin' the street, sure something wrong will happen to me...
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-09 04:21 [#01856024]
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Generally when you remove one thing from an ecosystem, something else moves into its place.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-03-09 04:47 [#01856031]
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Yep. Why not play a ghettoblaster really loud with something annoying on loop right outside the store (for example, in the bus stop I was talking about), when they ask you to turn it down, ignore them. When they call the police, point out the police that the store is doing the same thing to you.
The shop concerned is in a residential area. Can you imagine if you were a teenager living next door and could hear the high pitched whine every time you opened the window?
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-03-09 04:57 [#01856032]
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I'm ACE throwing stones. Ancient tradition here in Mallorca...
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big
from lsg on 2006-03-09 05:22 [#01856038]
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i think it's cool to treat them like animals
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pigster
from melbs on 2006-03-09 05:33 [#01856040]
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and by animals, you mean, like shit.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-03-09 05:40 [#01856042]
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Bear in mind that 90%+ of the people who can hear this are legitimate users of the shop/surrounding area and only a small number cause trouble. Rather than a blanket approach of rough "justice" like this, you think it would be better for the police to just deal with the ones who were being anti-social.
If it was any other minority group (other than perhaps the elderly) that were being discriminated against in this way, people would be up in arms.
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-03-09 05:42 [#01856044]
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Now ppl stand uP!!!!!!!!
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big
from lsg on 2006-03-09 05:51 [#01856049]
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yesyes, but they should just walk on, it's just a few seconds inconvenience then
if it was your (old) tv doing this i bet you'd sit through it for watching that great show you want to see anyway
it's hard to battle stuff like this, people get in arms about bans on flocking together on the street (dont know the english term) even more (rightfully so imo)
also the shopowner doesn't have any obligation to society to handle this nicely, or to worry about them going elsewhere: i don't blame him at all for doing this
it is a real crappy solution but therefor a signal as well
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-03-09 06:02 [#01856053]
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"yesyes, but they should just walk on, it's just a few seconds inconvenience then"
My point was/is that the sound isn't just audible on the shop owners premises. It doesn't even just cover the ground immediately outside his front door. If it can be heard in a bus stop right outside, people waiting for the bus have no option but to endure it. As a teenager I had to use buses; it was my only way of getting around. I wouldn't want a kid who is causing no problem, just sitting waiting for his bus to be subjected to this noise.
With regard to "if it was your (old) tv doing this i bet you'd sit through it for watching that great show you want to see anyway" I have to disagree. If the effect is so minor and easy to ignore, it wouldn't be so effective at making the kids move on. The whole point is that it is irritating to the point of causing discomfort.
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big
from lsg on 2006-03-09 06:24 [#01856062]
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well maybe when it's a sheltered busstop the shelter stops you from hearing the sounds..
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-03-09 06:57 [#01856070]
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Wow, I really managed to mess up my use of italics in that post.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-09 10:21 [#01856202]
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Knowing me, I'd stand outside, call it music, and then get called a freak, while throwing the plans of selling this little box nationwide out the windo.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2006-03-09 10:26 [#01856205]
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This is horsecrap. Ceri has many good points here. You shouldnt be able to do this because it will affect people in a vacinity. I too have hyper style hearing. I would seriously destroy this thing.
Unfair to the general public in an eearshot range.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-03-09 11:54 [#01856279]
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This is the biggest load of cock-shot I've ever heard.
Whoever the fuck markets these things might as well had said the following:
"This device magically deters teenagers from your store. Or anyone else for that matter."
gay
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-09 14:53 [#01856429]
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ive heard about this shite, i saw one on the news that looked like a briefcase you carry around in town centres to piss chavs off with. its such a crap idea, it wont have any effect.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-09 15:19 [#01856452]
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what frequency is it? i can still hear up to 15khz i tested my parents + they only go up to 10k
id love a bit of this! get some white lightning, go and pester OAPs and single mums outside the costcutter whith mad screeching sounds
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big
from lsg on 2006-03-09 15:23 [#01856454]
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like the animals they are i guess i mean
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-03-09 19:05 [#01856538]
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What exactly is a chav?
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-10 00:18 [#01856631]
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CIRCUIT BEND IT!!!!! YES!!!!!
lol
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-10 01:52 [#01856650]
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ha, you could probably have it as an instrument. add a phaser to it!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-04-15 07:56 [#01879825]
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I was actually looking at buying the house next door to this shop earlier today. Couldn't hear it in the house, but in the garden, particularly the front, I could hear it. Fuckers put a cage around the thing to stop people smashing it up. I reckon a letter about this duplicated and sent to the council, spar, local paper and the estate agent should get it removed (not that I'm particularly keen on the house, it's just the principle of the thing).
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-04-15 08:28 [#01879829]
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that wont help anything, even if it got removed
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-04-15 09:25 [#01879842]
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Eh? Be more specific.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-15 09:27 [#01879845]
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"teenager deterrant"
BRAND NEW SONG CONTAINING THOSE OH-SO-NICE FREQUENCIES! COMING SOON TO AN XLTRONIC NEAR YOU!
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-04-15 10:14 [#01879864]
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it's not aprril 1st.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-04-15 10:15 [#01879865]
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y'wot mate
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-04-15 10:31 [#01879874]
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i would actually smash it up, then then windows, then the shop keeperrs face.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-15 10:57 [#01879893]
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I thought that was Ventolin...
....So THAT'S how aphex did it!!! lol
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-04-15 10:59 [#01879894]
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Be morre specific. Get it?
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Q4Z2X
on 2006-04-15 13:51 [#01880018]
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with all the damn blaring devil rock music and that hipity hop noise those kids listen to nowadays, those thugs probably can no longer really hear that shit anyway. consarnit
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2006-04-16 04:57 [#01880406]
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lol you can hear 30+ Khz... LOL really...?
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-04-16 05:02 [#01880411]
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I wouldn't think you'd be able to hearr bat sonarr, Ceri.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-04-16 05:07 [#01880414]
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everyone can hear bats squeaking.. you can't heir the part of their sound that's sonar, though.. bats don't only make inaudible sounds...
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-04-16 05:09 [#01880417]
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which is why I didn't say I don't think you can hearr bats squeaking, Ceri
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-16 05:10 [#01880419]
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you cant see them either. they only reflect ultraviolet
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sean qunt
from BELFAST on 2006-04-16 05:13 [#01880420]
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i heard it was something akin to june sarpong's voice
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