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you just don't go steal autechre patches and post them online.. fuuuck i'd be ashamed.. |
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this is quite old isn't it? it was posted on a russian site I believe. |
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yeah I wouldn't do that either though |
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confield patch = new ep7 patch = old broken version on russian website, this one works |
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not cool |
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You know, the thing about generative music is at least half the process of composition is building the generator. Using someone else's is halfassed collaboration at best, misuse and theft at worst. You might argue that it's a valuable learning experience to see how someone else did something, but if you already know how to program then you're just tainting your own compositions - and if you don't know how to program, which seems to be the case with about 99% of the people who are interested in shit like this, then you are merely ejac-u-wanking. Max comes with superb documentation. Do one tutorial a day, or one every two days, and in a month or two you'll be building things that are just as interesting - and more importantly, they will be yours. This is symptomatic of what's wrong with electronic music - a genre that should be exploring the boundaries of what's possible and veering off into all sorts of exciting new directions is instead crawling up into its own asshole. |
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good points, i hope no one uses this in their own music, that would be pretty funny if they did. |
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why the fuck would anyone want to make generative music? |
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i dont know... ask autechre? |
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I tried calling them, but when they lifted off the phone, it was all "blip blip blip kweeeeeeeeee!" |
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wow...best post of 2006...!!! |
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the ae mashups are decent tho well i'm only half way through the first one it's interesting though |
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very well put |
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These werent stolen. Thats just to get your attention. Regardless, I dont have a problem with it. I see it as a pedagogical tool, thats it. I was thankful to see these. Its not like anyone is going to use these and successfully implement them into their own tracks and then make a ton of cash and become the most 1337 and respected electronic musician on the scene. For that matter, its not like any of the already established electronic musicians trades secrets, techniques, and patches. Erm, wait.... |
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well put together but utterly boring after 5 minutes and also very annoying |
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interesting to see how a complex whatnot is jiggered together and stuff. generative music is all fine and well and there's no reason why it should be considered inferior to any other music. as he who is fleet of mouse already said the compositional part has its grounding in the design of the aforementioned whatnot. using someone else's programming to generate "your own" music is fun but don't make you no genius. hence the usefulness of this is as a window onto how people who are better at stuff than i am do the stuff that they are better than me at. |
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:) |
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:~ |
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I've got a nasty cold. |
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stop it |
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this is why i don't make music |
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äta glass |
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runka dumpapkuk |
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Earlier today i was thinking that i was surprised that you dont. You attention to detail in music and overall love for sound is a great characteristic for any artist to have. You pretty much have what it takes. Do you mess around with any programs? I think you should |
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gl0tch, this kind of stuff is no good it's time you turn in your copy of ae soundboard 2005 glasgow set and rm *.* |
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max/msp |
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huh? |
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Actually it was I, not gl0tch who translated the documentation from russian to english via babelfish. I just uploaded it on one of my ftp's and gave it to him :p |
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GLOTCH, WHERE HAVE THOSE FINGERS BEEN WHERE HAVE THOSE FINGERS BEEN, GLOTCH!?!?!!!! |
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yeah, it wasnt me, not sure why I am mentioned on the site. I only told him about Babelfish. Anyways, he already had the patch though. So impakt, no feets stepped on I hope! Anyways, the confield one is new to me though. You should check that one out. |
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what? Sorry, your posts just become more and more, er, elusive! |
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Haha, I didn't mean it like that at all. I just think it was funny :p I've checked out those other patches too, but I like the Liccflii one best, especially after my own modifications. |
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I agree... i enjoyed the liccfli patch MUCH better. |
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Yeah, I've done some very funky stuff with it. Doesn't sounds like Liccflii anymore :p |
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hanal? |
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I'd be curious to hear some samples! |
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I haven't gotten to changing the sound-generators yet cause the thing keeps crashing on me so it's really frustrating and doesn't make me want to keep working on it really :p But I've done some work on the aerydm object and I might be able to give you a sample of it. |
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word |
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äta juice? |
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in programming, like any other art, each person develops their own style. Even if you know how to program this shit, I couldn't see why you wouldn't want to see how another person does it, as it could give you ideas that you can use that you might not have thought of before. There are no true innovators, just people who help push things along faster than others. I don't see why people always seem to jump to hating first thing in this messageboard. Its not fun. |
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well said my friend. well said. |
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Agreed. Let's be honest, it's not like Ae went from zero knowledge to this level of ability with MaxMSP. I bet they did a few tutorials and looked at some examples themselves. The actual learning from this example isn't really any different. However, I can see the point that people dislike the idea of something "stolen" like this being used to rip-off/imitate autechre. |
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how the hell do you know? tnx for the post offjacker |
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it's still wrong. it's still stolen property. period. |
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Expecting a call? |
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