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offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-12 19:14 [#01840071]
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This is an honest question and not an attempt to get
attention or look cool...

Watching films, playing games, and listening to music are
all experiences that become even more powerful when drugs
are involved.

I've removed the influence of skunk completely from my life,
and it can be hard to enjoy those activities when you've
always got that nagging thought saying, "this could be even
more enjoyable and intense..."

I know that sounds fairly ridiculous, but it's something
that is vaguely irritating me. Can anyone relate? Luckily,
music creation is not affected at all, as I never found any
pleasure in making music while in a non-sober state of mind.
It would always sound crap the next day, and creating things
is so mentally involving that you're hardly worrying about
how "intense" the experience is.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-02-12 19:17 [#01840073]
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"this could be even
more enjoyable and intense..."

funny, i never get those thoughts..


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2006-02-12 19:19 [#01840074]
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weed?
i've quit many a time (and even right now) because i get
hair drug tests taken for work (go back 3-6months)

what's the big deal?


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-02-12 19:29 [#01840075]
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I don't use recreational drugs and alcohol makes music sound
wrong, although beer at concerts are a must cause the sound
is mostly shit anyway.

so no, I can't relate


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-02-12 19:32 [#01840076]
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yeah i have a hard time making music stoned unless i'm doing
something live with others. I think the live collab is a lot
different from solo music making because you only have to
focus on one aspect and other people get focus on their
aspect so when you combine it all you are able to make a
really cool jam. As opposed to going solo, you get so many
thoughts in your head at one time, at the end of just trying
to get one idea out you've lost the other ideas that go with
it.


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-02-12 19:42 [#01840080]
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it will fade with time, do not worry about it.


 

offline scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-02-12 19:48 [#01840083]
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the faded experience will fade with time?


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-02-12 19:51 [#01840084]
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i used to be a massive pothead, had it firmly latched onto
recreation time. just like any vice though i stopped in the
end when i stopped enjoying it. my diet of electronic music
now has a very different context, really brings back
memories from crazy times past when i was still a unit with
my old friends. i had my first smoke in years and years a
few weeks ago, and it was awful. made me feel like a total
monkey


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-02-12 19:57 [#01840085]
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must get out of my bedshorts and buy a valentines day
present!


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-02-12 19:58 [#01840086]
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no flies on you


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-12 20:12 [#01840089]
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i think instead of buying any valentines day related,
everyone should put their money towards DRUGS!


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-02-12 20:18 [#01840091]
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my girl likes romance :]


 

offline oyvinto on 2006-02-12 20:18 [#01840093]
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she must be special


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-02-12 20:19 [#01840094]
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yes she is


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-02-12 20:20 [#01840095]
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yeah! columbia and afganistan should make some money on
valentines day too!


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-02-12 20:21 [#01840096]
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a trip down to the columbian florist


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-12 20:21 [#01840097]
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not forgetting bolivia.


 

offline oyvinto on 2006-02-12 20:26 [#01840098]
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support your local grower


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-13 02:44 [#01840152]
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"Colombia" not "columbia" which is a state in North
America.

Just felt you should know ;).


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-02-13 03:10 [#01840155]
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Its not really the case with alcohol, I used to always think
weed would make things more fun but really it just makes
sitting down more satisfying and thats it. other drugs are
different because they really change your experience


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-02-13 03:14 [#01840157]
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Sitting down more satisfying? Is that what those massive
depresions are called? Satisfication?


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-02-13 03:14 [#01840159]
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I mean Satisfaction?

(Satisfication seems a pretty cool word though. Too bad I
just made it up)


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-13 03:31 [#01840162]
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well it could become a new word- all you have to do is
increase use and popularity of the word. Then after a fair
few years and billions of people later we'll all be
satisficated.


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2006-02-13 04:42 [#01840197]
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I'm half Bolivian =)

never really saw the appeal in drugs though to be honest,
only ever smoked weed once and it had little impact on me (I
presume I must've done it wrong) but now the thought of
re-trying it just lacks that "I wonder what it's like"
appeal. Music sounds worse when I'm drunk so I imagine it's
pretty much the same with most recreational drugs - I'm
probably wrong but that's my thoughts.


 

offline j4ck from United Kingdom on 2006-02-13 06:28 [#01840267]
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I stopped skunk in January, and it takes a while but then I
lost the urge to always skin up... How long you stopped
smoking CS2x?



 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-13 06:36 [#01840278]
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colombia is in SOUTH america, you twonks!

ive never really tried any decent/dodgy drugs. alcohol does
it for me, and weed fumes from time to time, although that
tends to just make me feel sick. sniffing board pens is nice
too.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-13 07:07 [#01840305]
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Well, actually it was a year and a bit ago. Stupidly, I did
the stuff again a bit recently, which is probably what
brought it back.

Hopefully it'll just dwindle away.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-13 07:11 [#01840308]
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Congrats, your life is over


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-02-13 10:20 [#01840420]
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No when I say sitting down that's really pretty much what I
mean


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-02-13 12:56 [#01840527]
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this is an element of psychological addiction. i used to
work interviewing people with long term substance abuse
problems, and these kinds of thoughts tend to follow
attempts to quit. not surprisingly there's often a lot of
conflict between the desire to experience the pleasure of
drugs and the desire to be free of the negative effects of
using drugs. these feelings are common and can be extremely
intense with drugs like meth or cocaine.

i'm not saying that all use is abuse. also, different
people have completely different experiences with
psychological addiction (some people don't seem to
experience it at all).

when you find yourself thinking these thoughts, try
reminding yourself of the reasons you decided to quit in the
first place. be wary of talking yourself into smoking
again, if you've really resolved to give it up for good.



 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-02-13 14:20 [#01840626]
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otto: man, i dont need drugs to enjoy this.

just to enhance.


 

offline fronz from munichberlin (Germany) on 2006-02-13 15:31 [#01840719]
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totally know what you mean. i smoke for more than ten years
probably, most times at least a good night joint every
evening. getting older i more and more try to expand the
pauses in between due two several reasons. first and
foremost i know that i simply got more power without, that
getting up in the morning is much easier and that my
abilities to concentrate improve. second i know that less
smoking increases the mental effect (typical for all drugs i
guess.. with weed especially relevant while listening to
music) and minimizes the hang over.

i know that feeling that lacks when you´re watching movies,
playing games etc, stuff you´re usually used to do with a
stoned head. but my experience is that this gets better from
week to week. and i always try to see it positively, cause i
got better concentration, more power to get up afterwards
etc.



 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-13 15:36 [#01840738]
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thanks, some great advice here!


 

offline oyvinto on 2006-02-13 17:37 [#01840799]
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my advice is smoke as long as you can


 


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