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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2006-02-02 18:34 [#01833102]
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fuck i was disappointed when it came out... now, nothing touches it. fuck off has there anything as good come out recently.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-02-02 18:37 [#01833104]
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Are you talking in the over egged 'Drill and bass' arena or in general?
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2006-02-02 18:40 [#01833107]
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um, no, your mamma's knickers smell of cheese and fish
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-02-02 18:41 [#01833108]
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the plinkety-plonk piano bits were nice. I liked those.
although that avril-thingy gets a lot more praise than it deserves, I'd say.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-02-02 18:42 [#01833109]
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that's like someone from the US using the word "mate" - a bit embarrassing.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-02-02 18:43 [#01833111]
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That doesn't make sense. You are wanting other peoples opinions aren't you?
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2006-02-02 18:44 [#01833112]
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*cowers*
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2006-02-02 18:46 [#01833113]
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i'm listening now and it really does kick the fuck out of anything released in the last few years to me...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-02-02 18:47 [#01833114]
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so basically you wanted to say that and don't want to hear the opinion of anyone else.
which is fine ofcourse, it's the solid foundation the internet is built on, but the thread title might suggest otherwise..
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2006-02-02 18:48 [#01833115]
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sorry i'm pissed, i mean you no harm
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-02-02 18:48 [#01833116]
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Great! I like the piano things but the rest I wouldn't revisit.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-02-02 18:50 [#01833118]
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I've liked it all along, and still think it's awesome!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2006-02-02 18:50 [#01833119]
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that was the highlight for me aswell.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-02-02 18:54 [#01833121]
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crazy good still top album masterpiece
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2006-02-02 18:54 [#01833122]
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goodness! horses for courses i suppose...!
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2006-02-02 18:58 [#01833124]
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good play elusive, i agree, as far as a whole abum is concerned, nowt beats it.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-02 18:59 [#01833125]
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Best album ever, always said so, always will.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-02-02 19:07 [#01833128]
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You can top that technically if you chose to and had a lot of patience. I can't think of who I'm quoting but.... 'it's 90% inspiration, 10 % perspiration' give it a go.. your emulations are great but if you add yourself in there it would be lovely.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-02-02 19:10 [#01833129]
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it's good
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2006-02-02 19:14 [#01833132]
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it is good, but best album ever......... i'm not so sure........ Bytes anyone? or dare I say SAW?
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nacmat
on 2006-02-02 19:16 [#01833133]
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well... it was my first aphex album
and basically the album that made me enter this idm (whatever you call it) world... yeah, I know I came late... but here I am
about drukqs:
loved it since first listen, love it still
it makes me feel all nostalgic too
I like the way its made, with that jekill/hyde style
melodies, great beats, some real idm anthems... essential I would say
it was some kind of summary of all his abilities to hat point, and it had several styles, but still made a perfect body of work
some say it had old tracks in it... probably, but he released them in the correct moment then
one of his best works imo
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-02 19:23 [#01833136]
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Yes, everything is possible. But, still - nobody has done it.
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2006-02-02 19:25 [#01833138]
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yeah, it's an all-rounder and worth the money
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lumpenprol
from San Francisco on 2006-02-02 19:31 [#01833139]
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I'll never understand the praise drukqs gets. I think it's OK, but a masterpiece? Isn't it too uneven to be a masterpiece? Sure Vordhosbn, Avril 14, and Ziggomatic are great tracks. But there are a lot of uninspired and plain filler tracks as well. Something else that frustrates me is it seems like RDJ intended it to be a "masterwork": it's takes itself too seriously. RDJ album covers more emotional bases and is a better album IMO. So's ICBYD. I even prefer Come to Daddy EP (now that is a tiny masterpiece, and brief, too).
If one is going to be talking masterpieces, In Sides is a masterpiece. LP 5 is a masterpiece, probably Chiastic Slide as well. But not Drukqs, I think. There's no overarching theme, not much of a coherent mood, not enough standout tracks.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-02-02 19:35 [#01833141]
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Haha, you are wrong about absolutely everything.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-02-02 19:36 [#01833142]
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What are you waiting for? I wish you were a bit more agresssive with your musical stance. It's such a waste.
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2006-02-02 19:36 [#01833143]
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jo lo agees!
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-02-02 19:40 [#01833144]
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ICYBD is my personal favorite of his, and second favorite album out of everything. (Its the first "idm" album I've ever listened to, though, so I may be biased.)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-02-02 19:43 [#01833145]
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you ever listen to it slowed WAY down, jamesa?
it's a whole new album (psssh) and my god,
it is even more insane.
bah, no more words to describe it
just crazy good
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2006-02-02 20:12 [#01833151]
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kin ell, how do i do that, elusive?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-02-02 20:14 [#01833152]
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elusive slowed down some, if not all, the tracks and posted them a while back. they were actually really cool and i agree with him.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-02 20:17 [#01833153]
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What do you mean?
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OK
on 2006-02-02 20:31 [#01833157]
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I think it's great. the best album in the genre
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-02-02 20:43 [#01833159]
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I think he's saying you sound too much like an Aphex clone (I have no idea, I haven't heard your music).
saying "nobody has done it" is a bit of a cop out. James is not some kind of mythical creature. why not try surpassing Aphex, who cares if you can't actually do it, at least go for it.
something like that.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-02-02 21:10 [#01833165]
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Hm, ok.
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OK
on 2006-02-02 22:00 [#01833176]
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lol.
impakt you can slow it with a plugin for winamp or with Windows media player, i think it includes something to slow down songs.
I think that slowing the tracks just gives you more perspective in how the tracks were made.. especially some insight into the beats. that stuff about "it's a whole new album", "it is even more insane." it's bollocks. but probably I'm just saying that because I pointed out about slowing the tracks first, and no one paid me any attention. later elusive comes out posting slowed drukqs tracks, and everyone's like "ooh ahh".
bleah!
it's OK
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-02-02 22:05 [#01833177]
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it's allright. not his best or his worst.
avril is overrated as qrter says.
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oyvinto
on 2006-02-02 22:26 [#01833180]
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i think it's his best overall album. in the beginning i used to skip the piano stuff, to get to the juice, but after a while the melodies sunk in, and since then the album has been one of my favorites, with few, if any, weak tracks.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-03 00:22 [#01833199]
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Absolutely great album. The best IDM/Drill n bass album ever.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-02-03 01:36 [#01833207]
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My opinions on it have changed a bit. Not that anyone really cares, but heres my two cents. I'm listening to rdj album alot more and have recently realized that it is aphex twins masterpiece, NOT drukqs.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-02-03 01:47 [#01833209]
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I concur with everything said there. I have listened to both the RDJ album and ICBYD hundreds of times, but everytime I put drukqs on, I get bored half way through and put something else on. It just didn't sound as inspired.
And thats all I have to say bout that.
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duppy
from United Kingdom on 2006-02-03 03:43 [#01833252]
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Drukqs is his best album by a country mile. and all the others are genius too. i remember him saying at the time that it was released in a 'not quite complete' form because he lost the mastered songs on a tube so wanted to release something before the bootlegs turned up. but i've always thought that was one of his little lies because i later heard him say, same year, that he thought it was his best work as he was just better at everything, production, structure etc than what he used to be. He also said it makes sense to him to listen to it as a whole, but it probably won't to anyone else.
It sounds completely perfect to me. it is his masterpiece. thank you for your attention
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-03 03:45 [#01833253]
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I'd for some more melodic drill and bass tracks in the style of drukqs. Nothing has really touched them in all these years in terms of atmosphere, tension, drama, memorability etc...(even if some works have almost matched the complexity of the drum work.)
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2006-02-03 03:52 [#01833259]
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i hate drukqs except two or three or four or five songs of which three are avril 14 and kesson daslef and jynweithek ylow tunes, one is vordhosbn and another is Orban Eq Trx4
i prefer SAW2
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staz
on 2006-02-03 03:54 [#01833261]
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Avril is the worst of the piano tracks actually, although the one with the most "immediate" charm. Kesson Daslef will always be my favorite out of those, closely followed by Petiatil.
Drukqs can, of course, be outdone, but I haven't heard anyone match it yet. Part of what makes it so brilliant to me is the track sequencing, it's filled with great, contrasting work and ties the album together perfectly. I really think it's an amazing dynamic.
Also, it's got his most imaginative and fulfilling melodies and overall structures. And it feels like his most "real" album, for some reason. There's something sincere about it, I like that. It's not just about how marvellous it is technically, there's an Aphex factor in it that's unique for him, no matter what.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-02-03 03:58 [#01833264]
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i still think it's ace album although i haven't really listened to it in a long long time..im into a bit different music now i think..but yeah, i still think it's one of best albums ever made :)
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QRDL
from Poland on 2006-02-03 04:00 [#01833265]
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It IS his best, no doubt about it. RDJ is quite close but gets boring pretty quick. People who think that ICBYD is better need to kill themselves.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-02-03 04:04 [#01833266]
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you still think it's his best even after analord? or you don't count analord as an album?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-02-03 04:04 [#01833267]
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Or perhaps we had already gotten tired of drill n bass, and when we heard a new aphex twin album was comming out, we were expecting something along the lines of windowlicker. (its still his best song ever, and I would take one windowlicker over 5 Drukqs anyday)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-02-03 04:06 [#01833268]
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Man. I have over 6000 points. I need to find something else to do.
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