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when it comes to music for example, most of bands i listen to are getting softer with every new release. i had just about enough of it mofos!! what happened to rocking hard?? |
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growing older. |
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you don't mean King Crimson v.2003 |
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haha i should've followed up to tolstoyed. |
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don't know what that is im affraid.. thank god we have autechre and aphex! |
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oh, fripp's band..not familiar with them really.. |
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you wrote "bands" so i thought you meant not only electronic acts. like autechre and afx. sorry. King Crimson are a prefect example of growing old but not musically. and not going soft. they use machine drums and lots of electronic equipment so i think they might be allowed in xlt music discussions once in a while. i thought you know allmusic. all music, tolst, or so the myth says. :) |
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i wonder what Nirvana would sound like today. or if it existed at all, since Cobain had gone kinda soft musically before he left the building. |
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it is that way for many bands indeed... listen to other new bands, or stick with the old releases... |
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the thing is nirvana sounded good mellow as opposed to some other people.. uzim, yeah, i definitelly try to hear as much of new bands as i can, but i think this getting softer thing is quite common in music nowdays in general.. |
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if by mellow you mean either ripe or soft i'd agree as for Unplugged. In Utero was always the last shout of a depressed man to me. and it sounded really hard. i'd risk an opinion that rock bands after Nirvana generally softened. or maybe i lost the heart for most of rock music in general after their collapse. i'd agree though that RDJ went totally soft with analords. and thank god Autechre didn't. well, it's hard to say if Untilted is soft or hard. or anything but quality electronic music. |
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yeah, it's been definitelly going on for a while now.. analords are very refreshing after all the digital melodrama. and hooray for autechre!! |
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could The Orb also go soft or hard ? heh ;] |
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I don't like things that "rock hard" so good |
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it's all natural. as time goes on artists loose their bite, and so does their music |
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merzbow is harsher than ever before! so is mike patton! and soft stuff doesn't really bother me until it gets too sweet and boring :) |
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heh, yeah I know. I was just aking to post a picture of a man with no teeth |
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maybe it's a matter of increasing sensitivity, or openmindedness. a lot of soft stuff might've made me think "new agey boring fluff" years ago, now i do indeed listen to more less conventional, softer music. when i was 18, i was very critical of programmed, synthesized music (i thought everyone should play a guitar, apparently). also, i don't have the same emotional mindset i had when i was younger, i'm pretty well settled and have resolved a lot of conflicts, and i've found that music that communicates or evokes conflict no longer interests me. |
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examples ? when i was 18, i was very critical of programmed, synthesized music (i thought everyone should play a guitar, apparently). i was quite the same. but another thing is i get bored very easy with Nirvana or Pearl Jam and can't get bored with Jesus Lizard or Soundgarden. i loved listening to all of them once. people and tastes change. |
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examples of which? |
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the last older rock record i listened to was a couple weeks ago, the first album by swervedriver, "raise", which came out in 1991 i think. it still sounds great. i still listen to some rock music, for example interpol. most accurately, i listen to a much wider range of music these days, but then again i've had the time to accrue experience and music. some of the softest music ever, early renaissance choral music, is also a current favorite. |
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meathole |
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ah, sorry. i meant exactly examples of "music that communicates or evokes conflict no longer interests me." |
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modern rock sucks. fact. |
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here are some examples off the top of my head that i once liked very much, mind you i've not lost interest in all their work, i just don't connect personally with a lot of the tracks anymore, mostly the songs about emotional conflict, anger etc. of course many tracks by the following don't fit the bill. big black the cure the smiths ministry skinny puppy my bloody valentine depeche mode nirvana red lorry yellow lorry joy division the chameleons |
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people adding "fact." at the end of a post stating their opinion is one of the things that annoy me the most on this messageboard. not #1 most annoying, but... annoying. |
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..fact? |
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imo |
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brb |
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kthx |
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kthxbye |
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They're probably reaching the age at which they've realized they've done their work in the music world and might be considering retirement from it. Now it's time for a new generation to take action and make their mark on the music world. |
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i am with you, tolstoyed! mellowing out has gotten popular and its shit, basically. obara - i disagree that in utero is a softer album than nevermind, that's totally insane. it's way harder than nevermind. you must be measuring "heavy" in terms of compression or somthin and getting older is no excuse. i'll bet it's more a reflection of your lifestyle than it's about appreciating heavy music. you don't have to be an angsty teenager to listen to good heavy music. ...fact! |
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..fact? |
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fact! |
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brb |
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for me the problem is that much "heavy" music *is* about anger and angst. i'd much rather listen to something like merzbow than heavy rock music. it's not that the music is too heavy, the style just doesn't interest me. also, are you saying that people are "mellowing" because it's popular to "mellow"? i can't see why mellowing out is shit. nothing is more sad than a middle aged guy at a screamy rock show pretending he's a teenager. |
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This is a post. Fact. |
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there are many, many styles of heavy metal, for instance. but fair enough if you don't like it. what can i say about it. also, are you saying that people are "mellowing" because it's popular to "mellow"? i can't see why mellowing out is shit. i think it's the new trend, yeah. it's obnoxious to me that bands seem to think that it's wrong to be loud or noisy or ugly. or that "quiet" is better than "loud". one is not better than the other. if you're in a rock band, you'd better know how to rock. it's like when the beatles had their loud, screaming rock music, and then softened and made bullshit records like sgt peppers. the latter is boring ass music. nothing is more sad than a middle aged guy at a screamy rock show pretending he's a teenager. so music appreciation is completely dependant on age for you? you reach a certain age and then it's time to grow up and move on from what you used to be passionate about? time to settle down? that's utterly boring to me. i don't understand this point of view. it says that you don't care about a form of art enough so you let the trappings of "adult life" block it out. |
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slash dubba dubba dubba dot com alfakrøll slash dubba dubba dot dos? |
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no, i'm saying that you shouldn't feel compelled to "stay young" by obsessing over music that's made by and for kids, trying to be someone that you're not. and honestly i think it's strange to think that people are making quiet music because it's trendy. you really don't think that people are making the music they want to make? if you know one thing about me, maybe you don't, it's that i think music is subjective and personal and i don't think anyone's right or wrong for taking pleasure from music, whether i like it or not. also, my point included that there is more "heavy" music besides cliche ridden rock music. i know you don't care if i like this or that band. strange that you would argue so much in favor of being open minded, but at the same time condemn music that you don't favor as "bullshit" and "boring ass music." |
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next you'll be telling be that people only listen to the ramones because it's fashionable. |
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..ramones... *shudders* eugh... |
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oh my, one day you'll learn that there is a grain of salt... and sometimes you should take it... i'm saying that you shouldn't feel compelled to "stay young" by obsessing over music that's made by and for kids, how many people in their twenties, thirties and older do you know that have read Harry Potter or went to see Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? trying to be someone that you're not. well, of course there's something wrong with that. but what i was saying was based on the observation that some people i know found themselves at a certain age and gave up on what they liked just because they thought they were "too old". they're not being themselves, they're ignoring part of themselves until they can bury it. and honestly i think it's strange to think that people are making quiet music because it's trendy. you really don't think that people are making the music they want to make? right, i am saying there seems to be a trend in music now where there are more groups doing quiet stuff for purely pretentious reasons. and many of the indie or underground bands fit into this and, maybe they like it, but i think they are really just doing it to get popular. |
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how about AE? as their catalog rolls down they are getting more hardcore and loud, more physical |
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yeah, it seems to be going the other way for electronica, which is a great sign! :) |
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i think i'd better share those grains with you when i get them. |
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my orb is rock hard haha hmm... well both phantomsmasher and atomsmasher are really fucking hard and amazing. like, really good. |
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if kurt cobain was still alive today, nirvana would be playing acoustic covers of James Brown songs, complete with 8-piece band and a trio of black female backing vocalists, to a captive seated audience of 40-somethings in the Albert Hall. tickets £75 a head. |
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that's really heavy. how did you figure it out? do you know magic? |
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