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Reverb has so much to change the way music is played out to be. for me, it matters so much because even though some people have their stereo's in their living room and that makes up some acoustic reflection creating reverb.. but since i have my monitors either side of me listening to music which has very well made out mastering ( with reverb etc ) makes it so much deepe,r it's as if i'm in another place.. it's quite odd, but what made me think of this was listening to Polynomial C, what makes that song ( i feel ) is the fast ryth in the background, it just makes that track i feel because its extremly atmospheric .. |
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fucking hell, people around love their reverb, all the spams are totally drenched in it. and here you are crapping on. there are loads of cool effects out there, and i think reverb is quite overused. |
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YES! we should live in Flanger from time to time. Reverb is boring after a while |
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oh c'mon, you've got to be taking the piss now... |
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how many tracks with reverb have you heard without their reverb exactly? |
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Reverb is a tool to help assist producers in creating a natural sounding acoustic space where recording in a controled environment is necessary. But the problem is people are using it as an effect, where it should be used more as a tool. Its kind of like people have swapped their priorities. Compression should be used as an effect, not as a tool, and reverb should be used as a tool, not as an effect. |
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whats the difference between an effect and a tool? |
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Well, tools are more utilitarian, and effects are more additive. Lets put it this way. Compression should be used to add a certain sound to what you are making, but it has been used more as an auto leveler lately. Reverb should be used to give accoustic space to recordings done in controlled environments and sounds that have been generated and sent straight to the mixer without having any accoustic space, but it has been used as something to add a certain sound to what you are making. |
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But thats all imo. |
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I know what you mean. Lots of people just 'put some reverb on' forgetting the merits and failures of doing so. It's a great tool to fool the ears especially the Impulse response things. I think it's ignorance or lazy programming to make it sound 'Lush'. It can be used creatively too but I haven't heard any notable uses lately. |
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Definately. I am a big fan of sounds that are designed to be interesting, and pleasant to listen to. I try to avoid adding reverb as part of a designed sound. If I want that kind of effect, I usually just try to stick to delay. |
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I don't know, a lot of stuff I hear seems to be too dry. It seems like people want all their stuff right up front and in your face, with no care for creating spaces. Yes, too much reverb sounds bad, but when used well, it does exactly what its supposed to do, as a tool. |
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I generally don't make music as to avoid all problems therein |
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Have you played with altiverb? It's great! I used to use a TC electronics M3000 but I haven't touched it for ages now. You can download a demo |
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You are not allowed to add reverb everywhere. That is all in this matter almost. |
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Well, when I use software, I usually use the waves ir1. I have a convolution modeller as well, but haven't really had a chance to try it out much, as I kind of stick mostly to hardware. I intend on saving up and getting a lexicon multieffect unit soon, but right now, I mostly use my quadraverb gt. |
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You need to be very frugal with reverb. Delay often makes better job. |
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Impulse reverbs are great, they can even simulate Lexicons and other ware, also special fx can be easily created. |
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I use this thing called that makes any spare computer share the work. One of the computers just runs altiverb like a standalone effect and it's more than convincing, you can get lost in it. |
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the reverb on pro radii is fucking delicious |
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for me its mainly reverb on snares and some drum kits cause i think it sounds real old school and phat like that |
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i put it on because people say i need to |
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thank you atlast! I wasn't saying that reverb should be put on everything, but listening to that track just made me really think about it. thats why i like that track so much, because that reverb on the synth just made that song. If it hadn't had reverb the feel of the song would have been dry, and the atmosphere gone... Perhaps i'm just extremly stupid, or whatever, i don't fuckign care, but point being i just thought about it a lot. |
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there are no rules for making music. if you want reverb, use it. if you don't then, uh, don't. its pretty simple. i love people who get degrees in music tech. they will be mastering all my music when i'm famous. |
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since when was this topic about people getting degrees in music tech? |
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since when was this topic about asking people whether the topic is about asking people is they have degrees in music tech? |
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touche |
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zing! :D |
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hee hee. |
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Reverb..deeper meaning.. |
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geraldine are you taking the piss?.... People use reverb as an effect usually, this has been stated. but if you use it properly you can use it in such a better way, that being to create a realistic enviroment where the listener feels he is in while he plays the track. I find this topic title relevent, if you'd like to mock me some more just fucking privately message me |
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i LOVE reverb. i have a digitech rp7 effects valve i've been using in my music recently. if you want to hear the results, check Nothing like a spring decay at 100 percent with level 10 decay... oh the beauty! |
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Oddioblender i like this, the drums are a bit flakey ( the snare specifically ).. wait, it's getting better, but err, if you make the synth a lot quieter then fade it in with the reverb still on, it will give it a better atmospheric feeling.. e.g. listen to Polynomial C by aphex twin. |
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both altiverb and wormhole seem like interesting programs, but I really like the idea of using the two combined to have a dedicated reverb generator, so to speak. thank you for the links. |
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oddioblender, fucking hell, you've got too much time on your hands, you could have left out the description on your myspace on 'Sounds Like'.. you could of made a whole finished song if you spend that time otherwise, maybe even two songs. |
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"there are no rules for making music" I love it when people say this. There are no rules for making music. The truth is there are rules. I am too drunk to explain properly right now, but most of the people who say this usually make music in 4/4 time. |
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Forget I said that. Thats a can of worms that I don't want to discuss. |
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The first rule of music making is you don't talk about music making. The second rule of music making is you don't talk about music making. The third rule of music making is if a sound is in 4/4 then it is music, otherwise it is just a sound. Lots of people have 'invented' other time signatures, but these are actually just alternate names for white noise. The fourth rule of music making is that reverb cannot be used at any times whatsoever, neither as an effect, tool or on headphones. Thankyou for your continuing support. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- BTW gated reverb on drums is pretty cool and contrary to popular belief was invented by Peter Gabriel not Phil Collins so is acceptable for use. (Secretly I actually like Phil Collins, but that's a big secret). |
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LOL. And the fifth rule is that you have to try to "break all rules" at one time or another. |
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taxidermist your "compression as an effect" statemant is a bit wrong imo. a compressor is actually a tool. you CAN however use it as an effect when using a bit more extreme settings. because then it will audibly change your sound. good compression is compression you can't notice. |
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yeah get a bit of pumping maybe daveg -> i thought i heard his studio engineer invented it by accident cos of a noise gate threshhold being set to high ??? |
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No. When Peter Gabriel was in Genesis, Phil Collins was the (rather fantastic) drummer. The drums were patched to a noise gate on the mixer and they had forgotten to un patch it. Peter decided to add some reverb to the drums and it was chopped by the gate, producing the gated reverb sound. So it was only really discovered by accident. I think they didn't use it on any Genesis stuff, but years later Phil Collins remembered it and used it famously on the drums in "In the Air Tonight" |
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