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fruity loops is finally getting more and more professional, they implented a few more functions in number 6 (at last): - few midi controllers can be used at once - that was gross! i mean you could use just one knob box at once until now... - hard disk recording of channels - known as the "freeze" funciton. yay! at last! drastically lowers the cpu requirements. - multiband compressor - no comment - one of the few features that were just too necessary. - new sampler - haven't used it yet - but seems quite ok. - new 8-part delay - new reverb and so much more. download the and look for yourself. just one thing that i discovered - it's more and more cpu hungry... i hope that won't be that bad on my pc :/ |
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HOLY SHIT! I need to get the lifetime updates now.... |
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floops is more and more worth the money... if you could just change that cheesy layout :| |
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FLP updates history: the first version is always laden with new features, extremely buggy, and extremely processor heavy. This is usually fun as hell, but after a couple days you open up the last version, because you can't work with it shutting down on you every five minutes. But version *.3 they fix the bugs, and optimize the programming, so that it doesn't hog your entire system, and its workable. They also throw in a free bag to put all the hair that you pulled out when version *.0 was released, so you can get it surgically re-implanted. Version *.5 usually includes as many added features as version *.0, but keeps the processor overhead low, and a few new bugs pop up. this is also the update where every single one of your favorite vst effects don't work. Version *.9. Finally, everything works beautifully, low processor, it all fits together. Then they tell you about the new features that you can't live without on the next version. Repeat cycle. |
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"it's more and more cpu hungry" - the opposite on my old pc [945mhz cpu] - it works much smoother than FL5 - you just need to adjust the cpu usage priority in audio settings. |
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The track freezing has been there a long time... |
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in floops 5 ? are you serious ? |
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(ejay for people who think they're clever) |
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you have no idea |
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Isn't that more or less the history of almost any sequencer, hehe :p |
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actually - it works for every program, computer, car, mobile phone, toothbrush in the world |
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Yeah, as long as you leave out the vst-effects part. It's called marketing. |
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i'm studying about building houses you know... dunno anything about marketing really |
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(show your music, we'll judge the fruit of your work) |
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i'm not really that impressed with the new fruity standard effect updates, i use vst's only anyway |
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how do you guys render tracks then? for the whole song or small loops (pattern?) without effects so you can disguise the fact that it's a loop i never do it because i don't know wether i'll want to use the pattern again or i'm afraid you'll here it loop |
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what? just render it in full glory |
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i presume you don't delete the channel so you can later use it again (and don't lose settings and patterns)? (but then it still takes up cpu, even with 'smart disable for all') |
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you can render each channel seperately to a quality wave file for further knob twisting and production ! |
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right, so you'll save cpu from the plugin in the channel i guess i'll still try to do everything in one go though, as i'll always want to be able to change anything everywhere in the track, i should use send for reverb, though i found out it does sound different from a reverb on the channel |
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if your computer is that slow you can add reverb to a channel, export that channel and add it to your track as a wave file.... |
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Be sure to use send-reverb units/settings. |
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my computer is supposed to be really powerful (3 gig pentiumIV and stuff) but some channels with reverb use up alot of cpu. i understand your method but i won't do it cause rendering during making a track breaks my workflow, i worry i lose stuff and such it is useful to know how others do this however |
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hm... then you have to make something really wrong or you're just using too cpu hungry reverbs... i mean i sometimes have a shitload of effects on my channels and my laptop never really said "no" |
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i once did an experiment on a track with singing, send reverb really sounds different (not worse i though but different) for using it directly on the channel. maybe because it's added on with send (i know you set wet to 100% and use the send knob on the channel for wetting) |
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well it's the waves rverb, so i guess that's the reason (the samples buffer length in fruity is at max), what i said about the send sounding different i guess isn't really audible with instrument channels so i should use send. as i understood for making the reverb sound real you should have the settings on all reverbs the same anyway (like decay) |
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I normally just use one instance of reverb pr track, impulse reverb on one of the sends. Works great. |
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i'm not sure i made myself quite clear.....i just make a track and after [plus i make sure i played the whole track not one pattern] i render the whole track. not while working on a track. |
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i cant find out what impulse reverb is exactly |
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ok, the problem is these days im putting all the effects on while working on the track |
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A convolution reverb is a plugin for sound editors like Digital Performer, ProTools, Logic and Cubase VST. It is a room simulator and it works with samples from real acoustic spaces. These spaces are 'captured' using a special sweep tone played by a speaker and recorded by microphones in the actual space, or by firing an alarm pistol and recording that with microphones. A convolution reverb adds the same sound to any sound that it is used on as what the room did to the gunshot or sweep. This sample is called an impulse response, in short: IR. In other words you get a good digital clone of the reverb effect in any hall, reverb-unit and whatnot you record the impulse from. |
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You should hear some of Impakt's stuff. When I found out it was FL, I was blown away. |
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what was bad about fruity again (exept the plugins) did it miss some frequencies? |
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By default the levels of all channels are turned down a bit, which makes people think it doesn't sound as good because it isn't as loud. The human ear hears midrange much better than bass and treble, so having the volume lower gives the illusion the sound is flatter or duller. Solution - either turn up the volume on your computer, or turn up the levels on each instrument channel to 100% in the channel palette. (if you export a track to wav and it's too quiet / dull you can normalize it in a wave editor) |
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do you mean that this button is on 78%? i think this is weird. but for the sound quality it doesn't matter then |
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why not put a compressor on master in F9 at the beginning of work on a track ? instead of turning all the instrument knobs. seems a bit easier to me. |
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oh, it means the same button still this is weird. so you always turn up those buttons? |
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stilaktive hahaha.. I personally use tracktion. I used cubase sx3 but i fucking hate that FUCKING thing now, so yes, i'm all tracktion. I might get FL 6 if it's decent and use it with ReWire (incombination with tracktion 2) |
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big you dont always need to use reverb, a simple mono delay coupeled witha chorus will sound as good and it doesn't make the mix sound muddy. Of course, you also save a lot of CPU in the process. For me personally, i'm off to KVR to get a shit/extremly low cpu reverb. Currently i use Ozone and it just feeds off my processor like a huge fat CPU intensive pig who hasn't eaton for a long long time. |
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Big: not the same knob. Use the ojne in the channel palette. Putting a compressor on the master instead of adjusting your levels is what give tracks the characteristic overcompressed FruityLoops sound, lacking in dynamics. You can save channel presets with the volume turned up, or save a song template. Or you can simply turn the sound card's volume up to hear better, and worry about the level of the track after you've exported it to wav - normalize, compress, whatever you like. |
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"tracks the characteristic overcompressed FruityLoops sound" - when using the old floops compressor - right but there are plenty of other compressors on kvr for example that work just perfectly. especially multiband's |
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so is this cracked yet? :P |
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nope |
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i mean not yet |
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but it means the same thing, if you turn one of those knobs highlighted in our pictures the other will turn as well |
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Oh? Then they've changed it. It used to be that they were separate - you'd use the volume in the channel palette to set overall sound and the other one to record your volume automation. I installed the FL6 update but haven't used it much. |
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im talking about 5 though, didn't you get confused by the volume on the misc tab of the channel settings, i thought you were talking about that to begin with: i've read you tip like three times now:D |
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Another great thing about FL Studio 6 is that it can also be used as... a hat. |
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omg loll |
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omg loll |
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