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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-19 16:42 [#01822456]
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just in case you didn't believe me, here's some more of my stuff
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-19 16:47 [#01822457]
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and now for 3 shots from the operation...
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-19 16:47 [#01822458]
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-19 16:48 [#01822459]
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2006-01-19 16:57 [#01822463]
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it doesn't
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2006-01-19 17:04 [#01822468]
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hey, you got an mc202 too
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-19 17:22 [#01822475]
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and off shot i have a Nord Lead 2x and my girlfriend's microKORG
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-01-19 17:30 [#01822478]
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When are you going to make some half decent music with all that shit then, or does it just happen naturally by fucking osmosis if you say 303 / 606 / 808 / 909 enough fucking times?
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2006-01-19 17:31 [#01822482]
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off shot (of all the 0 shots i've made of my "studio") a Yamaha CS1x and can of roasted cashew's
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-19 17:36 [#01822487]
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as soon as i either
1) get my own place so i can actually hook all my stuff up together all at once and actually make some stuff instead of sitting here.
2) have enough spare time and patience to record loops and cut and paste stuff
on a small note, i HATE working loop based, especially with something like the 303...you need to be able to tweak those knobs in real time, with the rest of your track....i should really sit down and record some loops from the drum machines and record the synth stuff in live.
working stupid shifts don't help matters either... one week i'll be working mon-fri 8am-4:30pm, the next week i'll be working 1:30pm-10pm, and then the days off change also :(
not very conducive for someone who's trying to get stuff done
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-19 17:37 [#01822489]
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ever since i had a go on a Yamaha CS1x in college i've wanted one....they're the blue ones right? :)
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2006-01-19 17:49 [#01822491]
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yes, blue square-ish playboxes bought one from a friend for 170 EUR
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-19 17:54 [#01822495]
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that's excellent :)
i love the angular look of it, and although i didn't get to play around with it much in college, it seemed to have some nice harsh sounding patches on it
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-01-19 18:13 [#01822499]
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1) get my own place so i can actually hook all my stuff up
together all at once and actually make some stuff instead of
sitting here.
If you don't have space, prop you bed and matress up against the wall and work on the floor. Better still, if your bed "slats" are a solid board, chuck the matress up against the door and use that as a table. It's not difficult to make space.
"on a small note, i HATE working loop based, especially with something like the 303...you need to be able to tweak those knobs in real time, with the rest of your track....i should really sit down and record some loops from the drum machines and record the synth stuff in live. "
If you hate loop-based composition, you could well have made a mistake buying a 303 & 606 & 808 & 909. Do some research before spunking £3K up the wall next time...
working stupid shifts don't help matters either... one week i'll be working mon-fri 8am-4:30pm, the next week i'll be working 1:30pm-10pm, and then the days off change also :( not very conducive for someone who's trying to get stuff done.
No excuse. I worked 12 hour shifts this week, spent 2-3 hours socialising in the evening 5 nights on the trot and still managed to spend about 4 hours a day doing tracks.
Dog_Belch: Music done on hardware is automatically great. It doesn't matter what it is/how the hardware is used/who is using it, the simple fact that it's hardware makes it better than software. I had hoped you, as a BIYC artist, would appreciate this, rather than wasting your time on things like "softsynths".
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-19 18:22 [#01822500]
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"If you hate loop-based composition, you could well have made
a mistake buying a 303 & 606 & 808 & 909. Do some research before spunking £3K up the wall next time.."
hence my statement saying "i should really record some loops"....i bought these as a way to force me out of a technique which was draining me
"No excuse. I worked 12 hour shifts this week, spent 2-3
hours socialising in the evening 5 nights on the trot and still managed to spend about 4 hours a day doing tracks."
sorry about the long shifts, i did a 12 hour shift once and it damn near killed me. good for you though that you managed to squeeze in time for yourself...hope you didn't lose too much sleep over it.
Ceri, i don't know why but i get the feeling that you're kind of intentionally having a go at me....over the past few days you've had a bash at my comments on using Linux and now this post. it might be me reading it the wrong way (and i usually do read things the wrong way, especially from people on here) and to be honest about a year ago i wouldn't have expected the kind of comments i have been getting recently from you.
i'm sorry i need at least 8 hours sleep every day otherwise i'm fucked for doing work the next day, i'm sorry that i still haven't adjusted to working stupid shifts, i'm sorry that in some way i've managed to piss you off. but i guess that's what i do.
i really am sorry if i've pissed you off man.
and if i've read all this wrong, my apologies for my rambling :(
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-01-19 18:24 [#01822501]
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I'm sorry if that post comes across as a little harsh, it's just that all these excuses for not starting seem to be just that: excuses- it's as if you don't really want to start. Not a lot can stop me doing music for more than a day or two, I start writing drum patterns and basslines on paper, even if I'm on a mountainside.
It also beggars the question, if you're not prepared to do the simple things I described/sacrifice an hours kip to do some tracks, how are you "into" music enough to warrant buying all that kit? Did you buy them purely for the ownership/kudos? Are you intimidated by doing/posting anything for fear people will criticise it and that you won't live up to the "big names" who've used that stuff?
I know this may come across as me being very envious of your gear, but the points I made (in this post at least) are serious. I know it's your money/gear/life, but seeing/hearing about stuff not being used makes me sad.
It's like when people buy an amazing, extremely cutting edge car/bikes and never drive it for more than 50 miles one sunny afternoon, then leave it in a garage to admire for years/sell on, when in reality the paint is slowly peeling, the engine is seizing and the technology that was cutting edge is now available to all, in a better/more versatile form, for a lot less cash.
They're not limited edition in the intentional sense, they were never made to be collectors items. They were made to be used. Use them.
LEt the bass kick!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-01-19 18:31 [#01822502]
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Yeah, I was really hesitant to post the comments in this thread, especially given the Linux issue earlier. In that thread I really wasn't attacking you, it's just that I have encountered some unix zealots (the sort who think all desktop machines should have it- the sort of people I was criticising) in work recently and your comments made me think of them.
At the risk of going on about it too much: -I'm not annoyed at you at all. -Sorry if it came across as personal (or even worse, a case of me taking the opposite side of the argument, just to attack you).
-The post in this thread was intended to be humourous with a serious message, but given the combination of it with the earlier unix thing, obviously backfired.
-You certainly haven't done anything to piss me off. -Erm, sorry for the misunderstanding *offers hand to shake*
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-19 18:33 [#01822503]
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sorry man, i did read it wrong
i know man, but let me at least try and explain myself.
the way i love working with equipment is all at once. i wanna have all my equipment set up, ready to go and trigger/play all at once, so i can mess about with it right there on the spot it i don't like it. i guess i'm kind of like a traditionalist in the sense that i would much rather have everything going live rather than sampling little hits and messing around in Cubase.
but you're right man. i'm letting this stuff go to waste. until today i hadn't even really tried to get my head around programming the 303 properly. but now i think i've got my head around it :)
i'm gonna start by trying to cover this track ("untitled" from Polygon Window)...at least then i can say i've put the info from this post into use....and then, i can try and make some shitty electro / techno stuff that someone on here can laugh at :)
lately i've really wanted to put my stuff up on here....the past couple of times someone from here listened to my stuff, i got positive reviews....even ecnadniarb said i was improving :p
i am gonna be trying to get some webspace so i can upload more than 3 damn tracks at a time (damn zebox) so i'll have somewhere to stick the files.
i'll try man
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-01-19 18:36 [#01822506]
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ceri is right, but there is a lot of merit to learning someone else's music, even if it just means you are learning the equipment. understanding how things work is very useful.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-19 18:36 [#01822507]
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*accepts the handshake heartily and buys you a beer* :D
sorry man, i guess i'm in my hormonal season - taking things too seriously!
i understand what you man about zealots....i am ashamed to admit that i was a massive Mac zealot. but i'm sure you'll be glad to know that i've learned the error of my ways the hard way and shall never use any more Apple hardware again (except my iPod and i really wish i didn't have it..one day i'll re-rip all my music as MP3!)...although i still hate Microsoft :p
i'm sorry man, i didn't mean to take it all to heart
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-19 18:38 [#01822511]
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thanks to the people who responded in this thread i now know how to program the 303 properly....i couldn't get my head round it properly before (mainly because of the badly worded japano-english translated manual) but thinking about it now it's actually not that hard :D
and also i now know that my drum loop needed the cymbals on 1 and 9 ;)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-01-19 18:42 [#01822516]
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I know how "acquiring" stuff can take you over (even if it's only softsynths) and I'd be hypocritical if I didn't admit there have been times where I've been sort of, "right, I've got that what do I need next?" Rather than sitting down and spending a whole evening with nothing other than 1 bit of kit and learning it properly. I've got to be honest, I've had absynth for 3+ years now and only the past couple of months have I really gotten the hang of it/actually used it to anywhere even beginning to approach its capabilites.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-01-19 18:44 [#01822518]
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Certainly- aiming to do an accurate clone/cover is a great way of learning a bit of gear. It gives some direction to your noodlings.
Cheers for being so understanding Oscillik, glad that's all cleared up. I'm off to bed now, long hours have caught up with me.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-19 18:45 [#01822520]
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isn't Absynth the one that's similar to Max/MSP in the sense that you can modularise everything and hook everything into everything else?
i used to have a disc with an old version of VAZ modular on it but i lost it and never got chance to mess with it properly :(
and btw, i don't have an 808 yet....still need that one ;)
*cries* i want my 909 to work properly! i need to call Roland in the US tomorrow and beg them for the spare part
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-01-19 18:47 [#01822521]
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again, apologies for misunderstand it and ruining the humour in your comment :(
you're a safe dude man (brummie slang) :)
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-01-19 19:01 [#01822529]
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you're a safe dude man (brummie slang) :)
What rampant provincialism, When was "safe" a fucking midlands invention?
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-01-19 19:39 [#01822588]
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If you dont want to make loops and patch it all up in a wavesequencer I suggest you get some hardware sequencers and synchronize all your gear, then lay down the sequences and record each synth/drummachine in solomode (while they're all playing in your monitoring channel of course) while you're tweaking them.
Then you put it all together in some multitracker and synchronize the recordings, voila!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-01-20 02:35 [#01822730]
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He would have to get a lot of that gear modded to do that.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-01-20 02:55 [#01822736]
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Absynth lets you do your own waveshaping (like Vaz), as does MaxMSP, but absynth is only semi modular (in that you can bypass bits of the chain). It is also nowhere near as open ended as max; it's more of a whole "music programming language" like reaktor/csound/supercollider (I know those three are all pretty different but it's along those lines), whereas Absynth is just a softsynth (albeit a very very good one). The automation of all the parameters which allow it to do such complex evolving pads/rhythm loops isn't really anything new, more just that absynth's interface makes it intuitive and easy to automate several parameters at once (and still see the other parameters values/modulation waves).
I used to love Vaz. I can't remember what version I had originally, (something like 2010, or modular+), but when I upgraded to a newer version of it, everything had changed too much and I didn't like it as much. I still think it (well, my version of one of their 101 patches) had one of the best emulations of your archetypal sh-101 bass that I've ever heard in software. I may well dig it out and have another play. Ta for the reminder.
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big
from lsg on 2006-01-20 02:56 [#01822738]
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no i just got confused by you saying you wanted it to sound like richard's one, i wouldn't automatically assume he's modded his when you don't get the sound right right away
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big
from lsg on 2006-01-20 02:58 [#01822741]
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i wouldn't like programming with the step sequencer, it doesn't have midi though? (did find this
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-01-20 03:08 [#01822748]
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best track from SOSW (after Polygon Window track)
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2006-01-20 03:25 [#01822754]
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just to cut back on the actual topic
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-01-20 05:50 [#01822807]
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Not really, 90% of his gear has dinsync..
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