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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 10:30 [#00107354]
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In these days I'm thinking to prepare the "IDM Champion's league", a special tournament with all the best electronic artists who will fight for the prestigious title of "Best IDM Artist of .nu - 2002 edition".
We could have different group with 4 artists... then who win will go to the semi-final and the to the grandfinal...
We could have artist like AFX, µ-ZIQ, FSOL, LEFTFIELD, CHEMICAL B., UNDERWORLD, AUTECHRE, THE ORB, GLOBAL GOON, ecc...
Is it a nice idea? Is is a fuckin' stupid idea? Am I becoming mad?
WooÆ’er
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-01 10:33 [#00107358]
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I think that is a real cool idea....
Details....
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nacmat
on 2002-03-01 10:38 [#00107362]
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you are going crazy .... yes indeed... but i am too, so i love the idea.
plone, plaid, boc, orbital, bodgan...
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 10:45 [#00107367]
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First of all you should help me to choose the best 24 electronic artists, then we'll make Group A,B,C,D,E,F.
Every group has 4 artist, the best 2 will go to the next matches...
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 10:51 [#00107375]
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01.afx 02.autechre 03.µ-ziq 04.plaid 05.squarepusher 06.boards of canada 07.b. raczinsky 08.global goon 09.chemical brothers 10.underworld 11.daft punk 12.leftfield 13.air 14.future sound of london 15.the orb 16.orbital 17.photek 18.plone 19.prodigy ??? 20.ovuca 21.bochum welt 22.d'arcangelo 23.luke vibbert 24.lamb
What I miss? What I should erase from this list?
Tell me... these are the first qulifications...
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nacmat
on 2002-03-01 10:52 [#00107378]
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hehehe just like the champions league in soccer.
afx ae squarepusher plaid boc u ziq orbital the orb fsol bodgan razinsky ...
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nacmat
on 2002-03-01 10:53 [#00107379]
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oops sorry i posted too late... kruder&dorfmeister maybe?
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nacmat
on 2002-03-01 10:57 [#00107385]
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richard devine nightmares on wax prefuse 73 two lone swordsmen
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leftrightronic
on 2002-03-01 10:59 [#00107388]
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i luv luke vibert man, i'd put him in the top 10 me think
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:02 [#00107393]
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You read in my mind nac... I erase lamb for kruder, obviously...
new list 01.afx 02.autechre 03.µ-ziq 04.plaid 05.squarepusher 06.boards of canada 07.b. raczinsky 08.global goon 09.chemical brothers 10.underworld 11.daft punk 12.leftfield 13.air 14.future sound of london 15.the orb 16.orbital 17.photek 18.plone 19.prodigy ??? 20.ovuca 21.bochum welt 22.d'arcangelo 23.luke vibbert 24.kruder&dorfmeister
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:03 [#00107396]
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About:" richard devine nightmares on wax prefuse 73 two lone swordsmen"
Maybe these aren't many famous... for a nice championship is better to write more famous names, are you agree?
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leftrightronic
on 2002-03-01 11:06 [#00107398]
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WooferAttack: listened to much arovane, accelera deck, christian kleine, machine drum, telefon tel aviv, funkstorung, mum?.. maybe you left some of those out, tho, all of it's ace imo
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 11:09 [#00107400]
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Yo, what about Mouse on Mars, they kick ass, and what about Pole, and Matmos and Kid 606 and Venetian Snares and Machine Drum, Rechenzentrum and Jan Jelinek, Kit Clayton, Jake Mandel...
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nacmat
on 2002-03-01 11:11 [#00107401]
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actually if there are 6 groups and 2 pass we would have 12 afterwards which dont match... i would do 32, (8 groups of 4, and 2 pass) then next round with 16 (4 groups of 4...passing 2) so we get to 1/4 finals with the best 8.
probably it would be more fair to have less groups with more members in them...so they all "fight" against most of them.
I dont see it very clear how fair would be a 1/4 final... imagine .... in one 1/4 final boc against ae ... and in other... chemical against plone... for me the losers would be boc and chemical... but is it fair that plone gets to the 1/2 finals and boc doesnt?
you know what i mean?
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nacmat
on 2002-03-01 11:13 [#00107403]
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actually i dont think leftfield or chemical..neither underworld are in this IDM... dont know what you think
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-01 11:13 [#00107404]
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Prodigy sticks out like a sore thumb on that list....
just my opinioon...=) otherwise looks great so far...
Ill put some input in in a few...gonna take my lunch soon cheers
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-03-01 11:15 [#00107406]
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you do realise 2 lone swordsmen has got Andrew Weatherall on it..he's the godfather of most of the electronic music and bands you mention..and a huge inspiration..Sabres of Paradise is seminal and essential Warp and 2 lone swordsmen's miles ahead of BoC in my opnion more of a truly IDM band than Chems and leftfield and Prodigy and even orbital and air..
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 11:19 [#00107408]
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BOC would need to be very near top. What about Lesser, that guy blew my mind!
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:19 [#00107409]
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I think 32 artist are too much, we'll risk too many confusion and we'll risk who have artists who few ppl know.
My idea was ispired to the old world championship (spain82 i.e.)
6 group of 4 artists The first 2 will pass to next matches... ...so 12 artists divided in 3 - 3 - 3 - 3 so we could have a group with i.e. afx, air and luke vibert... win only one an then we'll have the semifinal and then the grandfinal...
What do you think...?
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:21 [#00107412]
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why not? they play a different style of sound but it's always good electronic music.
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nacmat
on 2002-03-01 11:21 [#00107415]
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ok that sounds good... but read the posts by the others...they think some shouldnt be there and some others we didnt mention should...
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:22 [#00107416]
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should i change prodigy with venetian snare?
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-01 11:22 [#00107418]
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I am not saying Prodigy is BAD, but they are not so much IDM as "Breaks"...
IMO
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-01 11:23 [#00107420]
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YES YES YES...good call.....
Well done =)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:24 [#00107421]
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I agree
new list 01.afx 02.autechre 03.µ-ziq 04.plaid 05.squarepusher 06.boards of canada 07.b. raczinsky 08.global goon 09.chemical brothers 10.underworld 11.daft punk 12.leftfield 13.air 14.future sound of london 15.the orb 16.orbital 17.photek 18.plone 19.venetian snare 20.ovuca 21.bochum welt 22.d'arcangelo 23.luke vibbert 24.kruder&dorfmeister
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:24 [#00107422]
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what's about AIR? they can stay in the list or not?
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:28 [#00107426]
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Leftfield, Chemical, Daft Punk, Underworld, etc... represent another variant to the idm, but it's interesting to have matches between different style of music. Maybe someone prefer Chemical B. to µ-ziq here... so why not? We'll a various championship...
there's drill'n'bass' drum'n'bass breakbeat, ambient, techno, and many others different styles.
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nacmat
on 2002-03-01 11:30 [#00107428]
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ok then you should say ELECTRONICA CHAMPIONSHIP... cos IDM is like more accurate...IMHO
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:30 [#00107429]
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I agree but I'd like to create a game open to everybody... most of the ppl doesn't know that artists here... so it would be better to make a easy championship with more known artists...
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nacmat
on 2002-03-01 11:30 [#00107430]
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but dont get me wrong... I find the whole idea great
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:30 [#00107431]
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I agree...
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:31 [#00107433]
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I hope we'll have a lot fun...
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shortcircuit
from Red Ends (Germany) on 2002-03-01 12:08 [#00107449]
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Great idea - but how do you want to do this? Every group in a weekly poll?
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-01 12:16 [#00107459]
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I think AIR should be on there.....
Otherwise...count me in in anyway possible.... I love the idea=)
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 12:19 [#00107464]
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If AIR are allowed, than what about Jeff Mills? That's more my idea of what we're talking about.
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nacmat
on 2002-03-01 12:20 [#00107465]
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DJ SHADOW!!!!!
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 12:23 [#00107469]
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Right, and If Shadows allowed, what about Mixmaster Mike (check out his Eye of the cyclops, bestfucking scratch album youre likely to here) and the almighty Vadim
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grm
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-01 12:41 [#00107496]
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how about other style peeps such as Fog, Cornelius and Sand???
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 12:42 [#00107498]
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Fog rules and he should be on, if we're going to be honest. Cornelius? Yeah, I agree.
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grm
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-01 12:43 [#00107499]
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hurray!
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 12:44 [#00107500]
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but then we have to consider Coldcut and Cinemathic Orchestra and Amon Tobin too (I'm just making it harder)
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grm
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-01 12:47 [#00107501]
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yeah, there are soooo many different 'IDM' styles and artists but seeing as this is supposed to be the chapions league then it'll have to be the best
from each country or particular style???
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shortcircuit
from Red Ends (Germany) on 2002-03-01 12:48 [#00107502]
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Please take a look at the follow up to. I agree with Woofer. It should be kept easy. If there are to many artists we will never finish.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 12:50 [#00107503]
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I thought we were just idly passing our time and not making an actual contest. As for me, I don't give a shit, as long as I'm able to listen to all the stuff I like. How come noone mentioned Vladislav Delay. He is god.
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shortcircuit
from Red Ends (Germany) on 2002-03-01 12:56 [#00107505]
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You're damn right. If we do it now, BoC would (perhaps) win just because of their new album.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 12:59 [#00107506]
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Is the BOC actually out? I'll have to move my arse to get it. Anyone heard it yet? Whats the impressions?
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nacmat
on 2002-03-01 13:01 [#00107508]
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man check for the posts here... i mean lots of topics talking about it...
browse the message board by writing geogaddi I love it
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grm
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-01 13:05 [#00107509]
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don't start...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 13:06 [#00107510]
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sorry, man, I'm trying to work on some document over here and still chat with you guys, I would've checked warp site otherwise.
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grm
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-01 13:10 [#00107512]
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hehe. no worries...just a lot of boc on here at the mo
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