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offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 10:30 [#00107354]
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In these days I'm thinking to prepare the "IDM Champion's
league", a special tournament with all the best electronic
artists who will fight for the prestigious title of "Best
IDM Artist of .nu - 2002 edition".

We could have different group with 4 artists... then who win
will go to the semi-final and the to the grandfinal...

We could have artist like AFX, µ-ZIQ, FSOL, LEFTFIELD,
CHEMICAL B., UNDERWORLD, AUTECHRE, THE ORB, GLOBAL GOON,
ecc...

Is it a nice idea?
Is is a fuckin' stupid idea?
Am I becoming mad?

WooÆ’er



 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-01 10:33 [#00107358]
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I think that is a real cool idea....

Details....


 

offline nacmat on 2002-03-01 10:38 [#00107362]
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you are going crazy .... yes indeed... but i am too, so i
love the idea.

plone, plaid, boc, orbital, bodgan...


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 10:45 [#00107367]
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First of all you should help me to choose the best 24
electronic artists, then we'll make Group A,B,C,D,E,F.
Every group has 4 artist, the best 2 will go to the next
matches...



 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 10:51 [#00107375]
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01.afx
02.autechre
03.µ-ziq
04.plaid
05.squarepusher
06.boards of canada
07.b. raczinsky
08.global goon
09.chemical brothers
10.underworld
11.daft punk
12.leftfield
13.air
14.future sound of london
15.the orb
16.orbital
17.photek
18.plone
19.prodigy ???
20.ovuca
21.bochum welt
22.d'arcangelo
23.luke vibbert
24.lamb

What I miss? What I should erase from this list?

Tell me... these are the first qulifications...



 

offline nacmat on 2002-03-01 10:52 [#00107378]
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hehehe just like the champions league in soccer.

afx
ae
squarepusher
plaid
boc
u ziq
orbital
the orb
fsol
bodgan razinsky
...


 

offline nacmat on 2002-03-01 10:53 [#00107379]
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oops sorry i posted too late...
kruder&dorfmeister maybe?


 

offline nacmat on 2002-03-01 10:57 [#00107385]
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richard devine
nightmares on wax
prefuse 73
two lone swordsmen


 

offline leftrightronic on 2002-03-01 10:59 [#00107388]
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i luv luke vibert man, i'd put him in the top 10 me think


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:02 [#00107393]
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You read in my mind nac... I erase lamb for kruder,
obviously...

new list
01.afx
02.autechre
03.µ-ziq
04.plaid
05.squarepusher
06.boards of canada
07.b. raczinsky
08.global goon
09.chemical brothers
10.underworld
11.daft punk
12.leftfield
13.air
14.future sound of london
15.the orb
16.orbital
17.photek
18.plone
19.prodigy ???
20.ovuca
21.bochum welt
22.d'arcangelo
23.luke vibbert
24.kruder&dorfmeister



 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:03 [#00107396]
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About:" richard devine
nightmares on wax
prefuse 73
two lone swordsmen"

Maybe these aren't many famous... for a nice championship is
better to write more famous names, are you agree?



 

offline leftrightronic on 2002-03-01 11:06 [#00107398]
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WooferAttack: listened to much arovane, accelera deck,
christian kleine, machine drum, telefon tel aviv,
funkstorung, mum?.. maybe you left some of those out, tho,
all of it's ace imo


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 11:09 [#00107400]
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Yo, what about Mouse on Mars, they kick ass, and what about
Pole, and Matmos and Kid 606 and Venetian Snares and Machine
Drum, Rechenzentrum and Jan Jelinek, Kit Clayton, Jake
Mandel...


 

offline nacmat on 2002-03-01 11:11 [#00107401]
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actually if there are 6 groups and 2 pass we would have 12
afterwards which dont match... i would do 32, (8 groups of
4, and 2 pass) then next round with 16 (4 groups of
4...passing 2) so we get to 1/4 finals with the best 8.

probably it would be more fair to have less groups with more
members in them...so they all "fight" against most of them.

I dont see it very clear how fair would be a 1/4 final...
imagine .... in one 1/4 final boc against ae ... and in
other... chemical against plone... for me the losers would
be boc and chemical... but is it fair that plone gets to the
1/2 finals and boc doesnt?

you know what i mean?


 

offline nacmat on 2002-03-01 11:13 [#00107403]
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actually i dont think leftfield or chemical..neither
underworld are in this IDM... dont know what you think


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-01 11:13 [#00107404]
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Prodigy sticks out like a sore thumb on that list....

just my opinioon...=)
otherwise looks great so far...

Ill put some input in in a few...gonna take my lunch soon
cheers


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-03-01 11:15 [#00107406]
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you do realise 2 lone swordsmen has got Andrew Weatherall on
it..he's the godfather of most of the electronic music and
bands you mention..and a huge inspiration..Sabres of
Paradise is seminal and essential Warp and 2 lone
swordsmen's miles ahead of BoC in my opnion more of a truly
IDM band than Chems and leftfield and Prodigy and even
orbital and air..


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 11:19 [#00107408]
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BOC would need to be very near top. What about Lesser, that
guy blew my mind!


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:19 [#00107409]
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I think 32 artist are too much, we'll risk too many
confusion and we'll risk who have artists who few ppl know.

My idea was ispired to the old world championship (spain82
i.e.)

6 group of 4 artists
The first 2 will pass to next matches...
...so 12 artists divided in 3 - 3 - 3 - 3
so we could have a group with i.e. afx, air and luke
vibert... win only one an then we'll have the semifinal and
then the grandfinal...

What do you think...?




 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:21 [#00107412]
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why not? they play a different style of sound but it's
always good electronic music.



 

offline nacmat on 2002-03-01 11:21 [#00107415]
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ok that sounds good... but read the posts by the
others...they think some shouldnt be there and some others
we didnt mention should...


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:22 [#00107416]
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should i change prodigy with venetian snare?



 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-01 11:22 [#00107418]
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I am not saying Prodigy is BAD, but they are not so much IDM
as "Breaks"...

IMO


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-01 11:23 [#00107420]
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YES YES YES...good call.....

Well done =)


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:24 [#00107421]
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I agree

new list
01.afx
02.autechre
03.µ-ziq
04.plaid
05.squarepusher
06.boards of canada
07.b. raczinsky
08.global goon
09.chemical brothers
10.underworld
11.daft punk
12.leftfield
13.air
14.future sound of london
15.the orb
16.orbital
17.photek
18.plone
19.venetian snare
20.ovuca
21.bochum welt
22.d'arcangelo
23.luke vibbert
24.kruder&dorfmeister



 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:24 [#00107422]
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what's about AIR? they can stay in the list or not?



 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:28 [#00107426]
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Leftfield, Chemical, Daft Punk, Underworld, etc... represent
another variant to the idm, but it's interesting to have
matches between different style of music. Maybe someone
prefer Chemical B. to µ-ziq here... so why not? We'll a
various championship...
there's drill'n'bass' drum'n'bass breakbeat, ambient,
techno, and many others different styles.




 

offline nacmat on 2002-03-01 11:30 [#00107428]
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ok then you should say ELECTRONICA CHAMPIONSHIP... cos IDM
is like more accurate...IMHO


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:30 [#00107429]
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I agree but I'd like to create a game open to everybody...
most of the ppl doesn't know that artists here... so it
would be better to make a easy championship with more known
artists...



 

offline nacmat on 2002-03-01 11:30 [#00107430]
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but dont get me wrong... I find the whole idea great


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:30 [#00107431]
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I agree...


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-03-01 11:31 [#00107433]
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I hope we'll have a lot fun...


 

offline shortcircuit from Red Ends (Germany) on 2002-03-01 12:08 [#00107449]
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Great idea - but how do you want to do this? Every group in
a weekly poll?


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-01 12:16 [#00107459]
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I think AIR should be on there.....

Otherwise...count me in in anyway possible....
I love the idea=)


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 12:19 [#00107464]
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If AIR are allowed, than what about Jeff Mills? That's more
my idea of what we're talking about.


 

offline nacmat on 2002-03-01 12:20 [#00107465]
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DJ SHADOW!!!!!


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 12:23 [#00107469]
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Right, and If Shadows allowed, what about Mixmaster Mike
(check out his Eye of the cyclops, bestfucking scratch album
youre likely to here) and the almighty Vadim


 

offline grm from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-01 12:41 [#00107496]
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how about other style peeps such as Fog, Cornelius and
Sand???


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 12:42 [#00107498]
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Fog rules and he should be on, if we're going to be honest.
Cornelius? Yeah, I agree.


 

offline grm from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-01 12:43 [#00107499]
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hurray!


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 12:44 [#00107500]
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but then we have to consider Coldcut and Cinemathic
Orchestra and Amon Tobin too (I'm just making it harder)


 

offline grm from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-01 12:47 [#00107501]
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yeah, there are soooo many different 'IDM' styles and
artists but seeing as this is supposed to be the chapions
league then it'll have to be the best

from each country or particular style???


 

offline shortcircuit from Red Ends (Germany) on 2002-03-01 12:48 [#00107502]
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Please take a look at the follow up to. I agree with Woofer.
It should be kept easy. If there are to many artists we will
never finish.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 12:50 [#00107503]
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I thought we were just idly passing our time and not making
an actual contest. As for me, I don't give a shit, as long
as I'm able to listen to all the stuff I like. How come
noone mentioned Vladislav Delay. He is god.


 

offline shortcircuit from Red Ends (Germany) on 2002-03-01 12:56 [#00107505]
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You're damn right. If we do it now, BoC would (perhaps) win
just because of their new album.


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 12:59 [#00107506]
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Is the BOC actually out? I'll have to move my arse to get
it. Anyone heard it yet? Whats the impressions?


 

offline nacmat on 2002-03-01 13:01 [#00107508]
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man check for the posts here... i mean lots of topics
talking about it...
browse the message board by writing geogaddi
I love it


 

offline grm from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-01 13:05 [#00107509]
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don't start...


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-01 13:06 [#00107510]
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sorry, man, I'm trying to work on some document over here
and still chat with you guys, I would've checked warp site
otherwise.


 

offline grm from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-01 13:10 [#00107512]
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hehe. no worries...just a lot of boc on here at the mo


 


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