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I'm finally going to get a professional soundcard.. I decided I need this more than another turntable right now, and it is also cheaper. The turntable will have to wait until 1: I get a job, 2: after next summer holiday. I'm going to spend about 2-3000 kroner (311,04-466,56$ | 177,43-266,15£), and I have a few things I'd like to have. 1: Midi interface 2: Preferrably external, but it can be internal with one of those external boxes too.. I just want easy access and control. 3: Mic in with phantom power (not really REQUIRED, but good to have) 4: More than one line in. The best would be if I, through some software, could decide which ports are what (the current internal soundcard does this, and it is INCREDIBLY useful when I don't have easy access to the ports (they're on the back of the computer, of course)). 5: Optical or Co-ax digital out would be nice. 6: Level monitors would also be cool to have in plain sight. 7: Preferrably more than one out too... I've been thinking of the , but there are two main problems with it: 1: It's been around for quite some time, and seems to me like it's kind of "old" or "outdated." 2: I can't really remember if I actually have firewire at home.. :/ I have only heard the NAME Edirol, and I think they're better known for their synths than their soundcards, but.. of course, I'd like both experiences or insights on these two as well as new recommendations. also, are there any VERY cheap anaologue synth modules (those things that are just boxes with knobs and then you plug a midi controller into them to control them)? |
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ok, it seems I will most likely have to send a bit more if I am to get what I need.. still.. recommendations? |
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either that or look at the pci cards.. won't pci give me better sound quality? |
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Are you aware of how many Big One Mexicans you can get for 3000 kr? |
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I sure am! and yet, I choose this. |
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I'll be looting that sound card when you starve to death |
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that's A-O.K! |
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I use the M-Audio Firewire Audiophile ....it's rather good...looks like the 410 but doesn't have as many inputs. Most pc's have firewire port i think...since getting an external soundcard i have noticed a massive difference in sound quality...the m-audio internal card i had before was a lot quieter and buzzed a bit. |
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no, I just checked, and I'll have to buy a separate firewire card to get it. anyway, the 410 seems to just have one input besides the two xlr/jack thingies on the front, and that's.. well, I don't think it's enough for me, considering those things on the front are mono... I need at least three stereo ins... |
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The two on the front are for instruments/mics which are usually mono....I only have one input on my card...but use a mixer before the soundcard with all my instruments fed into it. Do you need it to perform simultanious seperate multitrack recordings ala protools? |
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what about Fast Track Pro I don't see how the age if the 410 is a problem? It'll still work |
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Edirol is a 'prosumer' (professional consumer) brand. Try MotU (Mark of the Unicorn) or even better RME for (affordable...) class-A high quality A/D converters |
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^ v. recommended, it's an awesome unit. the drivers don't suck, either, like some of these other offerings. |
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well, first, it'd be nice not having to keep disconnecting and connecting if I want to record something else, and second, I do sometimes record from several sources at the same time, yes. dannn_: the fast track pro hasn't got enough inputs either... |
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an, oh, don't try USB unless it's 2.0... USB 1.0 isn't able to provide enough bandwidth for full-duplex data transmission at 24bit/96kHz |
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i'd strongly recommend firewire over usb for realtime audio/video gear, really. if your computer doesn't have a firewire interface, getting a PCI card is cheap as hell and easy to install (in almost all cases, no driver needed under XP). |
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still only one stereo line in... |
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actually, i should add to that: being firewire doesn't make a device suddenly wonderfully fantastic. there's some pretty shitty firewire units out there, too. only recommendation i can give is seek out as many reviews as you can; in particular, how the drivers perform. it seems there's a lot of great gear out there in terms of features, but when it comes to actually using them, there's some major letdown (in many cases, the drivers generally being buggy/crappy). |
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'stereo line in'? dude, remember - all stereo is, is two channels. the thing has 6 channels in; assign it however the heck you want (i.e. 3 stereo, if you desire). |
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the motu ones seem extremely expensive, same goes for RME... |
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it has two mono in, one stereo in and three stereo outs for some reason... who the fuck needs that many outs in the first place? ins are what's missing... |
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You should only need one stereo input really.... I have never needed to record more than one instrument to one chanel at a time, a band might need this feature which is why protools offer interfaces for it.....the outputs are there for Main Soundsystem, Monitors, Booth Monitors, Dat Recorder Etc. |
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I own this baby: . Couldn't live without it anymore :) |
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+ you need multiple outputs if you want to DJ using programs like traktor |
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I've recorded several things to one track before.. it's to challenge myself, kind of, and to do somewhat "live" things... also, as I said, I want to avoid constant plug/unplug action... |
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oh.. well, that's not something I'm going to do... |
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Sorry I phrased it wrong....recording Several instruments to several tracks simultaniously is quite a rare task i think. eg. recording each mic on a drumkit to a different chanel....it would be great for having more control in the mixdown. It would be much cheaper to buy a wee mixer to sub mix before the soundcard, all your instruments are plugged in that way. |
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yeah, well.. it wouldn't exactly be cheaper to buy a mixer, but it may be necessary... |
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Soundcards with this amount of inputs cost a bomb |
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hm. can you, catually, go to my thread and see whats written there ? maybe combining forces would do the work. btw. can you name these inputs/outputs ? - turntable input - mic input - monitor output (active ones ) - headphone output i mean,those silly names,eg. XLR1/4 j,blah blah |
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Usually: - turntable input = RCA Phono + Earth strap - mic input = Male XLR - monitor output (active ones ) usually 2x 1/4" Jacks - headphone output = single 1/4" or 1/8" stereo jack |
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allright. now,why dont they allways show THIS kinda specs,only some balanced/unbalanced coaxial shizzle-things ? seems like not too many of audio interfaces have these TT inputs. i wonder why is that |
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a turntable input is an input as any other, but to actually get it to sound good, you need a ground cable and a riaa-eq-thingie... unless you have one of those fancy-schmancy digital turntable thingies.. in that case, you only need a digital in. the mics are mostly XLRs, I think... monitor out is so labelled, or "main out" headphone is labelled headphone, but it's mostly a jack or a small jack... |
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(see your previous thread) |
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oh, we had a behringer.. it bled sound like hell. |
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balanced = mono unbalanced = stereo |
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look at that : 2 x 8 24-bit/96kHz analog I/O; 192kHz stereo out 2 mic/line ins w/ preamps and phantom power 8 line outs to mixer or direct surround output S/PDIF digital I/O w/ PCM, AC-3, and DTS support 1 x 1 MIDI I/O so what does that mean - can i connect it to headphones /monitors at the same time ? can i connect turntable? these guys are not giving me those specs.damn. |
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A lot of people i know absolutely hate behringer products...the ones i've used have been fine. My Mic Tube preamp is pure silence, one of the best bits of kit i own, not bad for £30! |
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yes, you can connect headphones and speakers at the same time. you can't connect a turntable directly (unless it's one of those ghastly digital ones). |
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well, I don't hate their products, but I will never trust their mixers... |
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You can't connect a turntable to that. Without the phono preamp i mentioned in the other thread the signal would be terrible. |
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while were doing the whole translation thing...what is phantom power? |
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it's for mics that don't have internal power like a battery or whatever.. it's basically just power for the mic. |
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Condenser microphones need a phantom power source. |
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I demand answers! |
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