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these days its inaudible garbage thanks to everyone trying to push the boundaries. I preferred it when they included melodies and structure. I know, it's probably old fashioned and uncool to like music that doesn't make your ears bleed or leave you wondering if your cd is scratched or not. Give me amber or hard normal daddy, you can take back untilted and 2/3 of aphex twins entire catalogue. |
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welcome to 2006 |
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No, no, no. They need to push the boundaries in different ways. And make some dancefloor jams! |
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hung up, im hunging back on you ! |
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they still make electronic music with melodies and structure..they call it trance or techno..what ever you like. |
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anyone likes different things as different artists do electronic in they own way i |
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i know what you mean, id love to hear some of autechre's older stuff. id be happy to buy it. |
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Dad, get off of the Internet! |
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i agree with aphextriplet! it is high time these artists stop making interesting art and start re-doing everything that's already been done! god damn it, the whole reason i got into aphex twin was because i fully expected him to move towards trance anthems! he isn't doing what i wanted! outrageous! |
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I prefer it as it is now. |
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I prefer to listen to music I like. I don't give a shit who created it. |
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the problem is that there's no grayspace anymore. you can be successful, but you will likely sacrifice some artistic control and street cred if you do so, and you can be artistic, but you likely to never make a dime let alone be heard. and if you're not on one end of the spectrum then everyone complains for you to move to one side or the other. experimentalism is good, but i can't listen to splatters of sound effects for hours on end. |
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i like old and new but mostly vagina |
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I agree. The music industry automatically makes anyone in it a hypocrite. |
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same herre |
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the thing is... if all electronic musicians were making the same stuff over and over again... there wouldnt be many electro records in shops. Im glad that music evolves... structures are much harder to percieve nowdays. I say invent a new style... no rules... as long as there is something moving that pleases the ear... : ) music doesn't have to be structured in my opinion |
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I wanna hear more innovate dancefloor tracks. ike "Rocker" by Alter Ego. That was so fuckin' fresh and it even ended up being played in cheesy dance clubs. (Usually as a crappy trance remix.) |
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I think experimentalyness gets a bit annoying... seems tough to get signed unless you can be described in a way that makes you sound unique... people like Wisp get slammed. the opposite happens in hiphop, its either going for the lowest common denominator, or trying to recreate the old days. And that whole scene has gone boring |
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I like it when something is innovative and accessable. Like the early house and techno records, it was new but people went nuts for it. I'm gonna get shit for saying this, but a lot of two-step garage records between '98-'01 had that sort of fresh feel to them. |
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Fuck what everyone thinks, make 10 different albums in 10 different styles! |
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Make one album in your own style. |
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Everyone doesn't have their own style or want to be limited by it... |
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But everyone puts their own signature-feel on the style they're working with. |
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Nah, that's a cop out. |
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No, it's not. |
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Yes it is. |
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"1999's heavy-rotation pirate smash is Architechs' unofficial 2-step remix of Brandy & Monica's "The Boy Is Mine," which resurrects hardcore's infamous sped-up chipmunk vocals by whipping the dueting divas into a creamy warble of wobbly, high-pitched melisma. [9] But 2-step's favorite R&B goddess is Aaliyah, whose Timbaland-produced "One In A Million" has been extensively pillaged. [10] Best of the bunch is Groove Chronicles's "Stone Cold", which samples a handful of vocal phrases ("you don't know/what you do to me," "desire," and other splinters of yearning) and deploys them to create endlessly fresh accents against the groove. The original song's mood is totally subverted: what had been a devotional paean becomes a baleful ballad of sexual dependency, with Aaliyah digitally dis-integrated into a multitracked wraith of herself, stranded in a locked groove of desolated desire." Simon Reynolds writing about 2step. |
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impakt and jivver discuss electronic music |
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He's behind you! |
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His blissblog is great. |
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there's good in any genre, you just have to find it, which can be tough. |
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Indeed it is. Anyway, the problem with electronica is that it is "head music" for sitting around listening to. We need some freaky dance floor music girls can get into. People on this board talk about all these shifting micro-genres like "Breakcore" (ugh) or "Noise" or whatever. It's all the same shit: BOY MUSIC. |
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jivver on the left i assume? |
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that's a excellent point, and i agree. what's the point of music if it doesn't move you? i was at an autechre show last year, a very good show, and i swear i was one of only eight people dancing, because all the other people were busy just sitting there staring at them and ogling in their holy IDM light or whatever. the problem is that getting the kind of non-reserved people who dance to this kind of music requires breaking into a less artistic environment, and many are too stubborn to realize that so they keep making "Art." That's actually how GWAR came about, they were a group of art students who were pissed off that people couldn't take a joke, or their dirty satire anyways, and they joined with a punk band and did their own thing. Now people worship them. Art, in the end, must be appreciated by someone besides the creator, or else it's simply functionless. |
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Yeah. You have cheesy shit like Trance or Breakcore that people dance to, and that's okay for them, but musically it sucks. Then you have all the "experimental" stuff (a lot of which isn't that experimental) which is okay to listen to on the bus, but would clear the floor in a nightclub. |
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I agree, you do hear a lot of people fawning over an imaginary girlfriend that loves IDM and appreciates their 'weirdness'. It's not my idea of fun having some skeletal lank haired IDM girl stroking my spotty cheeks in time to 7/13 blips. |
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Yeah, I like regular, fun girls that aren't interested in "artsy" pursuits. |
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So? Where's the problem? There is music to serve both goals. Why the fuck listening to Autechre is worse than dancing to Autechre? What do you all want to say? I totally don't get it. As I see it, every artist has his own way. If he wants to make house for money, let him earn his doe, if Autechre or the glitchmakers want to stay underground and twid their knobs, I don't see a problem with that.If you can't see any music in the middleground, than the only problem is the narrowness of your middleground. |
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"what's the point of music if it doesn't move you?" then again, when does music move you? when you dance to it? when it makes you happy? when you enjoy it in your own way? who the fuck are you to tell me or anyone how we should listen and experience music? I'm getting pretty tired of the You-Must-Dance-Gestapo trying to make it sound as if that's the Correct Way To Enjoy Music. dance if you want to, don't dance if you don't want to and shut the fuck up about it already. |
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So what purpose would this hipothetical dance-inducing music with some artistical qualities serve if you don't need your imaginary IDM-appreciating girls. Where did they come from anyway? |
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NexGen. |
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I don't know about Oddioblender but... Yes, there are loads of "head music" IDM records we enjoy. But it would be really refreshing if there were more IDM-style tracks for the dancefloor. It would be fun and interesting, that's all. |
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I know! It's like classical music, come on, sex it up, stick some beats in. That William Orbit had the right idea, make ladies move to electronikakakakakaka...... There's loads of music out there meets your criteria of Intelligent Dance Music. But there's no point picking on certain artists who don't provide the service you require and suggesting that they change to become this one, amorphous sexy - music - with - a - twist -that -even- *gasp* - girls - like is... as qrter says, a bit tiring and is only going to lead to frustration for everyone involved. |
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t.raumschmiere portable [a]pendics.shuffle geoff white sutekh twerk jetone tresor basic channel monolake vladislav delay luomo anders ilar akufen kompakt traum dB frivolous audion mikkel metal theo parrish to name a very small few. all of these artists, to some degree or another, have apparent "idm" stylings to their music. some more minimal, some more melodic, some more dubby, but it still has that focus. and its all dance floor oriented. |
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Yeah, I like some these guys. (Although some of it is just straight up techno) I'm talking about stuff that is very danceable and very innovative at the same time. I guess I have high expectations. What I'm saying is, if the overall emphasis of electronica shifted towards the dancefloor rather than home listening (which could happen) it would be well, exiciting. Nobody is suggesting throwing all your WATMM compilations in the bin. Look at the electro scene: 1998: it's Daniel Rother and IF, great tunes but no one gives a fuck. 2002: It's International Deejay Gigolos, Felix the Housecat, girls, drugs, and some of the best nights out I've ever had. |
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HaHa! Can't you see something special in 'tainted love' for example? An unrequited love song (even though it is a motown track), I can appreciate it for the sounds used and listen again and again but... you could play it at a wedding and your mum and dad would love it too. I can listen to daft noises all day but it's something else if you can 'dance' to it. The Gigolo example is a perfect one. |
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We should be proud of "electronic music", it spans the chin stroking experimental home listening up to the dancefloor party jams (I can't believe I just said that). I think I know where young Swears is coming from in his argument, that for electronic music to remain vital it needs to move out of the ghetto. But at the same time, I think that is already happening, always happened before and will continue to occur, I believe that there's loads of different music under the very broad term "electronic" music. I also agree that when you mix something innovative and danceable the results can be beyond teh awesome and give you faith not only in music but that perhaps humanity isn't completely lost. One thinks of perhaps obvious examples like teh Windowlicker, teh Tied Up, teh Blue Monday, teh Tour de France, teh Cybotron's Clear... ooh bugger it all. |
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