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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-01-01 20:13 [#01810097]
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whats a person to do when most of whats going up there is unconscious. am i closer to being dead or closer to being alive because of this?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-01-01 20:15 [#01810098]
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i feel like if i thought hard enough, i could make this laptop float off of the table and balance ontop of this coke , or reach my hand through this post and give you a thumbs up or something.
do you think that somehow the unconscious is another dimension where we all live and reside, except it is just built so differently from the conscious world that we could never really 'find' eachother? that its kind of like a shadow of the conscious world?
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-01-01 20:16 [#01810099]
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"do you think that somehow the unconscious is another dimension where we all live and reside, except it is just built so differently from the conscious world that we could
never really 'find' eachother? that its kind of like a shadow of the conscious world?"
No.
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2006-01-01 20:21 [#01810102]
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Yes. But in that case i´d say the visual world is a limited interface based upon some underlying mental network.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-01-01 20:22 [#01810103]
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to claim that someones argument is purely based off of semantics and is therefore false, isn't that false as it is just an argument of semantics in itself? "semantics"
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-01-01 20:22 [#01810104]
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I think it's interesting how you think in dreams. There's no internal dialouge, because everything is in your head. You don't ever really grasp what you're thinking about in a dream.
It's hard to explain!
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-01-01 20:25 [#01810107]
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I just don't really understand what you mean by "living" in the unconscious world. This is something I'm very interested in though, after taking DX sleeping tablets and having some very lucid dreams.
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2006-01-01 20:25 [#01810109]
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I know this sounds silly, but once when i was walking down this path, a streetlight stopped functioning in the exact same moment as i looked at it and thought "zap". what are the odds of something like that happening by chance??
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2006-01-01 20:26 [#01810110]
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my mum also claims she have done this.
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-01 20:28 [#01810111]
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What time of day does your mum go walking down paths for the street lights to turn off?!?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-01-01 20:29 [#01810112]
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consciousness drifts away discarded memory packaged shelf life bad display
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ToXikFB
on 2006-01-01 20:29 [#01810113]
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thats happend to me before, waiting for the bus
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2006-01-01 20:36 [#01810116]
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note that i live in northern sweden. just about 230 miles up its basically pitch black 24/7
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-01 20:38 [#01810119]
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Noted. Good luck with the new career in telekinetic maintenance dude!
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-01-01 20:39 [#01810120]
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I once got really stoned, fell asleep and dreamt I was shagging this girl and in the dream she turned into a statue. I was sort of sad 'cause I'd fallen in love a little bit with this girl in the dream. When I woke up the next day, I still felt sad, even though the girl didn't exist in real life.
Bear in mind that I was 14, BTW.
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-V-
from Ensenada Drive on 2006-01-01 20:56 [#01810124]
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For me, thinking about consciousness never seems to be very successful. It always comes back to the fact that it's impossible to prove that one is even conscious in the first place.
Maybe right at this moment, I've been put into this place along with all of my memories about the past. When you really think about it, there is no now - all you have with you are the ideas of past experiences.
And what about all these other people you're talking with? There really isn't any way to prove that they exist or even that anything else does.
If anyone knows a way around these problems, let me know.
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big
from lsg on 2006-01-01 20:59 [#01810128]
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you're the oldest 23 year old i know *thumbs up
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-01-01 21:08 [#01810139]
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do you think that extremely involving music has longeterm effects on the unconscious mind, anad what do you thinkt ehhose effectss areeeeeeee
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2006-01-01 21:09 [#01810140]
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spot on, V
i'd really like to learn that neat "zap" trick though.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-01-02 08:15 [#01810339]
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I'm 23 in September, it's great.
Most of the time I don't dream about anything, but I wake up feeling like something must have been going through my brain.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-01-02 11:06 [#01810474]
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Wait a minute, this is about "unconscious" like "subconscious".
Let's talk about dreaming anyway, and the awesome music you hear in your sleep.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-01-02 11:14 [#01810476]
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Yes, as a kid, I was in my church and I looked at the priest and thought, "Swear" and he said, "Damn!" The immediately apologised, saying, "I shouldn't of sworn". Mad feeling when it happens.
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-01-02 12:34 [#01810512]
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And after mass he was going"...yeah fuck...oh you dirty little fucker...you dirty little welsh boy...shit...oh god...lord save me." I guess that would have been a mad feeling too.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2006-01-02 12:38 [#01810517]
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it's called instinct. run with it.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-01-02 12:41 [#01810520]
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lol
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