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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-30 10:14 [#01808816]
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1. Find something that someone has said, it may be funny or a mistake they've made, or just a random thing. (If you've already got a sample, skip 2)
2. Sample them saying this. 3. Form a song around this using experiments as your main source of inspiration.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-12-30 11:11 [#01808854]
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good thread but none of you have answered my questions as far as getting tired of hearing your own work over and over goes. i try everything from lowering the bpm, putting on headphones, listening to other music in intermission, etc. doesn't work, maybe i am making shitty music.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2005-12-30 11:14 [#01808855]
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Make some parts of the track last thing at night. Then go to sleep, and listen to them in the morning. It gives you a more objective view of what you've done.
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-12-30 11:26 [#01808868]
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ugmmm cygnus...yeah i did...look up !
"and yes i have that feeling that if i hear my songs once more im going to freak the shit out...
a lot of artists express those feelings in interviews - saying they've heard their songs so many times theres nothing left in them anymore and they get arduous...so you aint alone!"
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-12-30 11:30 [#01808872]
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oof sorry i missed it. thanks, good advice!
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-12-30 11:33 [#01808874]
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personally i shelve music for LONG periods of time - mainly cause i get tired of trying to get things perfect and just lose steam
i gave up making music for 3 years because of this
every now and again i like to escape to where there is no music, little to no noise, and just let my ears clear themselves out and make their own noise...hence why i like the middle of nowhere so much...its cleansing!
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-30 11:33 [#01808875]
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if your getting tired of hearing your own music something is wrong
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-12-30 11:35 [#01808876]
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i disagree...
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-30 11:41 [#01808881]
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if your own music bores you,you cannot put in 100 per cent,therefore its wrong
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2005-12-30 11:43 [#01808882]
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to be honest, with the tracks ive completed and actually been pleased with, i hardly get tired of them. i couldnt count how many times ive listened to my last 23 minute ep all the way through.
if youre having trouble with enjoying ur music again, smoke a fat blunt and throw on ur choons. as cliched as it is, that deffinately helps me when im stuck with like 1 or 2 parts of a song and i dont know wherre to go from there.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-30 11:44 [#01808885]
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I don´t get tired, and I´m constantly looping small portions of it while working on percussion, cutting and/or pitching. the only tired I get is when my ears get tired of sound alltogether.. increased tinnitus intensity and some sort of dizzyness.
I take lots of breaks while working, though.. when I´m on xlt, there´s mostly either a song, some graphics or a task for something university-related behind the firefox window... xlrecreation.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2005-12-30 11:44 [#01808886]
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o and i dont stop enjoying them in all the repeated listens. more often i say 'holy crap, I made this?' and sit there feeling all accomplished about myself
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-30 11:45 [#01808887]
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word!
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-12-30 11:48 [#01808893]
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i get those moments too i make something really phat... i listen to it later on, and think, "what the fuck! " i suppose lately i'm just not making stuff thats impressive to me...
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-30 11:52 [#01808897]
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phil your musics very good,but sometimes shit happens other times not-its prob good to leave it a few days then come back
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-12-30 11:57 [#01808901]
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well i have nearly impossible standards for music
with the old albums ive made im amazed at the ideas i had but never sit back and am fully satisfied...i believe the people who think they make good music, dont...
if youre never happy or complete your music will always evolve and get better - its when you satisfy yourself constantly that your music begins to get dull...
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-30 11:59 [#01808905]
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hmmm well i wank a lot and my musics shit
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-30 12:00 [#01808906]
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so you could be right
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-12-30 12:01 [#01808908]
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well...youre on bam in your cunt...so what you have def. has more weight than what i say !
:-)
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swears
from junk sleep on 2005-12-30 12:06 [#01808911]
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I've been thinking about this recently... I like to write all the drum patterns and melodies/basslines or whatever in quite plain presets. Then work out the sounds later on. If a pattern is good, it should shine through without having to rely on a sound or pad.
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2005-12-30 12:17 [#01808915]
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i'll get high and listen to some music, bang out a glitchy drone sound or two on a drum machine and use that for the basis of the track, quantize the shit out of alot of other sounds so everything sounds like garbage until i quantize it into a beat (somewhat), use other strange sounds from keyboards to make shit that kind of sounds like melodies and pads.
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-12-30 12:39 [#01808925]
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nearly all of my tracks start the same way and end up completely different...
all of my songs start with basically the same drums and then i tweak, alter, adjust, etc to the point they're all different in timing, sound, and pattern...
even ambient tracks...so i can keep a sense of time easier !
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swears
from junk sleep on 2005-12-30 12:44 [#01808931]
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Post one of your tracks, you have good taste.
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-12-30 12:46 [#01808934]
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i am currently in the process of making new tracks...when anything is complete you will know FIRST !!!
i quit for nearly 3 years and am working on learning new softs and getting new ideas...plus with my current job, a recent move, and the holidays...me gots like no time...
but i will keep you posted you lucky fucker !
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-30 13:31 [#01808953]
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people who never satisfy themselves don´t make good music. being happy with a tune isn´t the same as never evolving. being unhappy with whatever you make, makes you put less effort into it because "it´s crap anyway"
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swears
from junk sleep on 2005-12-30 13:36 [#01808960]
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Being unhappy with something means you try harder to get the sound you want.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-12-30 13:44 [#01808969]
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I mostly just terminate it and start something else. I must have a few thousand unfinished songs by now...
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swears
from junk sleep on 2005-12-30 13:45 [#01808970]
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That's because you quit, if you carried on with it, you'd have something you liked by now.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-30 13:48 [#01808971]
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lets fight,come on you cunts.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-30 13:48 [#01808972]
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sorry just slipped out
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swears
from junk sleep on 2005-12-30 13:49 [#01808973]
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I was trying to be encouraging.
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2005-12-30 13:54 [#01808977]
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i get tired of listening to the same beat or melody or loop plenty of times. sometimes i just erase everything. sometimes i sit there in front of all my stuff and do nothing because it seems pointless and boring.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-12-30 14:03 [#01808984]
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ill fight you dave, but youll lose to my sacred-eagle fist
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-30 14:08 [#01808988]
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the rochdale headbutt beats all
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-12-30 14:19 [#01808995]
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imagine producing house - i would kill myself
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-12-30 14:24 [#01808996]
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either that or i'd make it good
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2005-12-30 14:26 [#01808998]
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i refuse to make house on the sole basis that it's...
...easy.
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2005-12-30 14:26 [#01808999]
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oh, and it's shitty music.
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