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Krendo
from Leicester (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 06:50 [#01789647]
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I have a lot of this guys later stuff, like Tehillim, Desert Music, Drumming and City Life, but I have never heard his early tape-loop stuff. Is 'It's Gonna Rain' worth getting hold of? From what I have read, it sounds like it's just two recorded voices which are played over one another, osciallting back and forth - like the first and last tracks on Orbital's Brown album.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 06:52 [#01789649]
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Have you got Music for 18 Musicians?
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Krendo
from Leicester (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 06:55 [#01789651]
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No. Is that good? I have a track he did called 'Eight Lines', where a refrain is repeated over and over, and changes slightly in phases. Is '18 musicians' similar, as I heard it was? (btw, I like eight lines, so that wd be a gd thing). Also, do you know anything about Terry Riley? Is there anything to his music, or is just modernist gimmickry?
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big
from lsg on 2005-11-29 07:00 [#01789655]
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you might want to get violin and piano phase imo
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Bremzen
from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-29 07:02 [#01789658]
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i would say that reich is modernist gimmickry and terry riley is more ehm... original. although i must add that that doesn't mean i don't like reichs music, in fact, i like it a lot.
music for 18 musicians is definitely worth checking out, as is his early electronic work. i really like violin phase for instance (much better than his other 'phases')
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 07:04 [#01789661]
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I'm sorry, I'm not a Reich expert by any means, I only have 18 Musicians, Telahim, and Desert Music. But I have to say if you have not heard 18 Musicians you really really really really must, its one of my favourite pieecs of music ever. Its about an hour long. Its clearly very influencial because its slightly ruined a lot of music I like before that I thought was totally original. I'm familiar with some of his 'phase' stuff, its really not like that, its more like the Desert music but more ...'ambient', I guess. Its got that pulse thing going throught the whole thing. Very very beautiful.
(So yeah, please please get hold of it because it will blow you away)
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 07:05 [#01789664]
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Tehillim* ...clearly not an expert...
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Sclah
from Freudian Slipmat on 2005-11-29 07:07 [#01789665]
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You have to get 'Music For Mallet Instruments, Voices And Organ' if you haven't already.
And 'Electric Counterpoint' with Pat Metheny
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big
from lsg on 2005-11-29 07:07 [#01789666]
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also get glass' two pages i dont like music for 18 musicians and like desert music better, though i just heard both just once
the best thing reich did imo is the video opera 'three tales'
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big
from lsg on 2005-11-29 07:07 [#01789667]
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we are all only aphex twin experts
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 07:09 [#01789670]
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So true
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Krendo
from Leicester (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 07:11 [#01789672]
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Looks like this is going to be an expensive Christmas. What about Different Trains? And how do you think stuff like Reich, Glass, Cage etc compares with Aphex Twin and the sort of music that this website focuses on? I started out listening to a lot of Warp Records stuff, but in the last year or two I have heard quite a lot of modern classical music, as well as jazz music. I still like the electronic stuff, though, but when I look at my CD collection now, it seems a bit weird: Bach, Chris Clark, Autechre, Reich, Ligeti, Bill Evans, Coltrane etc
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Krendo
from Leicester (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 07:13 [#01789673]
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I would have called myself a near-expert until all AFX's Analord stuff came out. I haven't heard any of it, although I've just got hold of the CD for Hangable Auto Bulb. Brings bakc the memories...
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 07:16 [#01789676]
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My favorites are Different Trains and Music For 18 Musicians. Musc for 18 Musicians is just hyponotic, sublime stuff, while Different Trains is pretty harrowing and hard-hitting, using minimalistic techniques and voice snippts to tell the story of the transportation of Jews on various trains during the WWII period.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 07:16 [#01789677]
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I think Reich is one of the main imfluences in electronic music... melodically and structurally, especially more ambient stuff. I mean the Orb stole a huge sample of Reich for 'Little Fluffy Clouds'. And the Warp/Sinfonietta gigs - Aphex Twin, Reich and Cage in the same performance. I'm sure most electronic artists are fans.
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big
from lsg on 2005-11-29 07:16 [#01789678]
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i don't think that's weird @ all let santa do the shopping or get it from slsk to try the music on first
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big
from lsg on 2005-11-29 07:18 [#01789679]
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even reich doesnt know about all the remixes made from his music anymore, as he states in the here google advertised wire interview
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Krendo
from Leicester (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 07:20 [#01789680]
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Ah good, big, you've made me feel better. So is the main melody from Little Fluffy Clouds - it sounds like it's a guitar refrain - is that just stolen from Reich?! Well, The Orb always have been a bunch of slackers.
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big
from lsg on 2005-11-29 07:30 [#01789688]
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he, reich likes it though cause it has a different aproach than the original track
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big
from lsg on 2005-11-29 07:32 [#01789689]
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and he didnt get payed for it, but then he got the credits for the album 'reich remixed' and all worked out in his opinion, reich's an aimable guy
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-29 14:04 [#01790015]
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'music for 18 musicians' is a bit too.. clean for me.
I'd agree with big on 'three tales' - it's excellent.
I would get the tape works, they're incredible (especially if seen in the context of their time).
I have the new record 'you are', but haven't really listened yet to say if it's any good.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-29 14:05 [#01790017]
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that "reich remixed" album is terrible, though. I wouldn't want my name attached to that turd.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 14:10 [#01790026]
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qrter likes his Reich dirty.
I don't know how anyone can dislike 18 musicians... the 'pulse' staccato thing is go great. I keep ripping it off subconsciously in my tracks.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-11-29 14:25 [#01790041]
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love Reich
love Music For 18 Musicians
if you get a chance to hear any Reich played live, I highly reccomend it. I saw drumming, music for 3 wood blocks, music for 2 marimbas (i think thats what it was called), and one other, which I forget the name (it was a minimalism concert, with a piece by glass, adams, and reich)
amazing to hear his music live. hyponotic...
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 18:57 [#01790398]
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Music for Six Marimbas was played at the Sinfonietta gig I saw... very very good indeed. Is that the one you mention?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-11-29 19:01 [#01790399]
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no, it was only 2 marimbas...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-11-29 19:02 [#01790401]
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actually, I think it was called Marimba phase
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-29 20:15 [#01790431]
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I didn't say I dislike it, I simply like a lot of other pieces much more.
he uses that 'pulse' staccato thing in about half the pieces he has made.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-30 05:06 [#01790618]
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Yeah, I noticed it in Desert Music, one of the few other works I have. I think its a great technique. So simple but amazing.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-11-30 07:22 [#01790688]
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let me give a shout out for "music for large ensemble." hardly anyone ever mentions it, it's probably my favorite piece.
i think the early tape phase recordings are more interesting as historical documents than as recordings. they sound pretty much as krendo described them, never having heard them. it is, however, gonna rain.
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