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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-04-04 10:45 [#00632464]
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i've downloaded every IDM cd,
I find that hard to believe! LOL!
so they must not be good, since i don't have it.
Errrrm, is this sarcasm? ;-)
are they like NIN?
If they are then I'm just off to buy everything they've ever done....
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-04-04 10:47 [#00632468]
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I only know it from Garbage...most of my CDs are in an attic in Wales now, but I'm 99.9% sure Tri Repetae as I know it (Englander) doesn't have this one on it...
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-04-04 10:48 [#00632470]
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I've never liked Vletrmx21. That's right. You heard me. Perhaps.. I haven't listened to it enough.. to be honest, tracks I know I'll love I warm to immediately, and on first listen I felt completely let-down.. given the amount of hype it gets.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-04 10:51 [#00632476]
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it's on the us version (2disc)
people if you like vletrmx21 you'll love ekkehard ehlers tracks john cassavetes 1 & 2. come on! slsk it or something (it's from the album entitled 'plays'), it'll be worth yer while
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-04 10:51 [#00632477]
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*a pack of angry XLTers descends upon DJ Xammax and tears him limb from limb
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-04-04 10:57 [#00632484]
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lol
I've been making my disliking for that track known for a while now, I was just waiting for that to happen.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-04 11:08 [#00632498]
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i don't really like it. It's okay i guess... but...
well... it sounds a little too spooky for me. Last day on earth would be a good title, because it sounds so dark and so dramatic and so creepy... it's just too much. It could have been an intro or outro on a Marilyn Manson album.
I think rdj's 'rhubarb' is comparible, but that track is so much more subtle, leaves much more room for interpretation. Rhubarb could be the perfect soundtrack for any day.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-04-04 11:15 [#00632503]
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?!?!
Hm, we dislike for different reasons entirely surrounded. I don't like it because the melody is just flat, there is nothing to it...
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-04 11:18 [#00632506]
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what do you think of rhubarb then? :-) (saw2, cd1, trk3)... i'm curious.
So you find vletrmx... boring? It is kinda strange i guess... 2 people can dislike a song for exactly the opposite reasons.
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uzim
on 2003-04-04 11:29 [#00632517]
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surrounded > i don't find it THAT dark... [spots] or [tassels] from SAWII are much darker! : )
and it's too good to be on a Marilyn Manson album i think (though i liked Antichrist Superstar and Mechanical Animals).
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-04-04 11:29 [#00632520]
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It was on Garbage FIRST, its seems really stupid to put anvil vapre and Garbage on the end of Tri Repetae; but its for america so who cares..
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-04-04 11:33 [#00632523]
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fantastic track
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-04 11:33 [#00632524]
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"[spots] or [tassels]"
i have NO idea what you're talking about ;-) I usually just refer to those songs as "the 7th song on the 2nd disc" or "the 9th song on the 1st disc"... you know, i never bothered to memorise those titles people came up with.
But anyway... it's not that i have a problem with dark stuff... it's just that vletrmx is so dark it sounds almost like a parody (to my ears anyway). Like if it were used in a horror-movie... it wouldn't be a classy horror like The Ring, but some bad b-movie :-p
The song is too one-dimensional. I don't really hate it, but it doesn't give me any of the great emotions described in this thread.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-04-04 11:55 [#00632540]
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THEN YOU ARE EMPTY! ;)
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-04-04 12:28 [#00632573]
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Rhubarb is among my favourites on SAW2.. along with the usuals: Radiator, Hankie, Blue Calx, Lichen...Stone in Focus...
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uzim
on 2003-04-04 12:33 [#00632580]
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[spots]Â : cd 2 trk 9 [tassels]: cd 2 trk 10
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2003-04-04 12:44 [#00632595]
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yeah, its doesnt really surprise me..its a very simple song..
its interesting how a lot of the most powerful songs are also really simple..
like squarepusher's 'my sound' or a silver mt zion's '13 angels standing guard round the side of your bed'
and radiohead's 'true love waits'
just goes to show that complexity doesnt nessisarily increase the impact of a song...usually the opposite, in fact
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-04 12:48 [#00632600]
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all u peeps in this topic that dont like vletmrx21 r ghey lol
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MrGerbik
from United States on 2003-04-04 13:36 [#00632668]
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Tri Rep is a friggin masterpiece. Still my favorite Autechre, with Confield in a close second...
How great is the track Eutow? I can never get enough. I use that one to initiate the electronic noobs. Warm fuzzy walls of synth...mmmmm...
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-04-06 09:08 [#00634821]
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LOL ;-)
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-04-06 09:09 [#00634827]
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Agree 100% (I thought rhubard meant donkey rhubard!!)
SAW2 CD? TRK? is how I've always written it...
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-04-06 09:10 [#00634830]
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Icewaves and titsworth (and I thought my name was sillyenough!) ;-) We are obviously of a like mind on the remix...it's almost impossible to produce a remix that people love as much if not more than the original....this one's up there with Reload's "On" remix IMO...
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Kill Switch
from Belgium on 2003-04-06 09:14 [#00634842]
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One of my favorite ae tracks. Why didn't they make more tracks like this one.
They should have made their own SAW II!
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-06 10:51 [#00635002]
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They stuck the Garbage and Anvil Vapre on the US release becuase you can't buy them here. I makes complete sense to me. It's like the RDJ Album. the US release has the Girl/Boy EP on it. I prefer the originals though...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-06 11:05 [#00635026]
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get over it. great track but plenty of idm artists do epic dark ambient pieces, and autechre weren't first.
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PigeonSt
from Detroit on 2003-04-06 11:07 [#00635028]
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Touche Duble.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-04-06 11:23 [#00635055]
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CD2. I have the warp version. Only one CD
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-04-06 13:10 [#00635246]
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Who was?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-06 16:22 [#00635643]
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krautrock (notably faust) and bowie/eno in the early 70s come to mind... idm artists are obviously influenced by 70s and 80s ambient synth music, and not to say vletrmx21 isn't very autechre style, but it's clearly derivative of much older music as well as other idm artists (rdj's ambient work, the orb, hell even autechre's earlier albums)
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-04-07 08:08 [#00636670]
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Which reminds me, on "Surfing On Sine Waves" the US version's got two extra tracks I've NEVER EVEN HEARD OF BEFORE!!! Now that's just not fair... :-(
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