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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2005-11-21 22:51 [#01784469]
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this soft synth is pretty cool. aside from using the presets and a few other patches people have made i have no fucking idea how to make my own sounds with this program. can anybody shed some light on the subject...or maybe an online forum or something???
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-11-21 23:10 [#01784473]
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whats your experience with synths? Maybe if you tell me what you've used, I can try to compare it to that.
Absynths power is really in the envelopes... allowing you to do evolving stuff, or rhythmic stuff.
I really think the best way to learn, is to open up a patch, and look at how its made. Turn things on and off to see what they are doing. It is a pretty in depth program, so maybe finding a manual would be the best thing, to understand the layout and how to use it.
There is also an absynth tutorial DVD out, which supposedly goes over everything about the program. I don't know if youre interested in purchasing it.. if not, i bet somewhere on the vast internets someones ripped it. Might be a good way to learn, to actually see and have someone explain.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-11-21 23:43 [#01784481]
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well.......
guess what? It just so happens I am sitting here watching the tutorial dvd as I read this. This helped much more in the first few minutes than anything else to date. Where'd I get it? I dl'd it from audionews.ru .
It just so happens they are accepting registration in a couple of days.
From http://www.audionews.ru : "registration will be available from 02.12.2005 07:00 GMT till 03.12.2005 07:00 GMT
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-11-22 02:42 [#01784519]
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I'm an absynth freak, I bought it. about 80% of my music is made with absynth. including beats.
In the beginning I also found it a bit hard to use. but after a while it isn't so difficult anymore once you get to know it. I never used any presets because they are a bit obvious. just begin right now with making your own sounds from scratch. you can look at other patches on how they are build. but don't modify or use any presets. just start from the ground up. you will learn much more with that.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-11-22 02:47 [#01784523]
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here's a loop I made with absynth. I'm just playing one note here. everything is done with the envelopes. no samples used. the freaking of the beat is done with just adjusting the main tempo of absynth.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-11-22 02:47 [#01784524]
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LAZY_TITLE
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grinningcat
from london (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-22 03:42 [#01784554]
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that sounds wicked!! lets have the patch!!!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-22 04:19 [#01784588]
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I wish they could build an external processor for absynth that allowes you to generate tones with analogue circuitry, then converts the signal to digital sending it back through for processing and modulation. It sounds pretty good, but analogue still has that extra thickness and baditude that no digital gear can touch.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-11-22 09:12 [#01784820]
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Yeah, thats the business right there. How many envelopes did you use?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-22 09:20 [#01784827]
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I used to love using absynth for pads, but never really got into absynth 3. I should give it another look over. Can someone briefly surmise the differences between it and absynth 1 (in terms of functionality, not behind the scenes processing efficiency stuff)? Ta.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-11-22 11:05 [#01784877]
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hmm i cant remember if I had 1, or only 2. I might have had one, but then upgraded soon after... so I dont really remember what 2 has that 1 doesnt.
oh wait, yes, 2 has grainular and sample playback. (and probably lots of other stuff)
3 has audio input (so it can be used as an effect), a fractalizing osc (you know how you could fracatlize waveforms in the waveform editor? same thing basically, but you can do it in real time.
ummmm frequency shifter (like a ring mod, but instead of both the sum and difference, you hear either just the sum, or just the difference)
dont remember if there was a multi tap delay in 2... if not, its now in 3.
also an echo effect, and a resonator effect (up to 3, with 4 different resonating types)
thats all I can think of right now...
but yeah, its hot as hell.
the interface turned me off at first (the new glowy kind of colors) cause i thought it would hurt my eyes, but after like, a day, I didnt even notice anymore.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-22 11:17 [#01784882]
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Its takes a bit of getting used to like any program but it really doesnt take that long once you get your feet wet. Its a nice program!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-11-22 11:42 [#01784892]
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the only real complaints I have, is that there is not keyscaling function that is just like a knob. you have to go an manual set the amount for each not. horribly rediculous. I took the time to do all notes divided equally, and saved it as a patch. so I can copy paste it if i need it. but that doesnt allow for changing the intensity of the keyscaling.
also, i wish there was a key command to switch between each window. i hhope its in an update (whenever the next one is)
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-22 11:50 [#01784897]
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I only use it for basic things currently. I just started getting into it but i could see where its limits occur.
What is your favorite piece of software currently?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-11-22 11:55 [#01784899]
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well, I guess logic, since its my main base.
for the price, you get so much, sequencing, audio editing, a long list of plug-ins for production (some quality ones), and built in synths, sampler, and drum machine.
Both the drum machine (the ultrabeat, which combines analogue percussion design, and sample playback etc) is great for making your own drum sounds, and also the physical modling synth (sculpture) is amazing.
Id say sculpture is my favorite synth.
the es2, there built in standard synth is good too. Sounds good, and barely takes up any cpu. Its my workhorse synth, for standard synth sounds.
But I do love absynth, because its so unique, although due to CPU usage (im on a powerbook, id die for a G5) I have to use it sparingly.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-11-22 11:57 [#01784902]
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sculpture
ultrabeat
es2
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-11-22 11:59 [#01784904]
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and the ultra super best part about these, is that since they are built into logic, EVERY single function is automatable.
its FANtastic.
with absynth, you have to go and assign a paramater to a control driven envelope, and then go to your sequencer, and select the # from the list, which corresponds to that paramater etc
with all of these, the automation menu is split into sections (like, osc, filter, etc etc) and then it has all the functions, and youre ready to go.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2005-11-23 13:24 [#01785834]
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those vsts look like they're going to jump out of my computer screen and attack me... the design of each is unique... similar to that of MOTU's MX4 and Mach Five
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-11-23 13:29 [#01785845]
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here's a picture on how the envelopes look like. LAZY_TITLE
what you also can do is record some separate hits in one file and then import that one file in absynth. then you can trigger parts of the sample with the envelopes so you can make a comepletly new drumloop with that with all the filtermodulation and stuff you can do. it's the shizz
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-11-23 17:06 [#01786057]
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Wow, they're suprisingly simple impulse envelopes for such a complex sound.
At the moment I'm still trying to wrap my head around the differences between envelopes, LFOs, and LFO envelopes in Absynth.
good stuff!
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