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I've got a SL1200 + ortofon concorde pro. Some of my vinyls are not 100%straight and "jump" a bit, which leads to a nasty "frrrrr" sound. What could I do ? Adding weight on the tonearm, lowering the tonearm base... etc ?? Advises please ! |
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what is your tone arm / cartridge set up like? i have that skinny black weight between the cartridge and the clasp that connects to the tone arm and the addition screw in weight in the rear of the tonearm...this just ensures that you gotta jiggle the thing quite a bit to get it to skip i would put more weight on it, but be careful of how far down the cartridge sits to the record - if its pressing the needle too much youre vinyl is gonna get cut up to shit, esp. if you scratch trust me |
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also...when i had to do some gigs (or whatever) using ortofon's i always took them off and put my cart's on - those things suck - i guess dnb kids like em but they are HORRIBLE if you scratch or need to back spin / etc you may have to adjust your weights per record youre spinning too - for 7inches / 45's i have to add quite a bit of weight because they are testy - the thinner the record the more weight you need, but, the more weight, the more you hurt your records |
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Couldn't you try straightening the vinyls themselves? by perhaps using low heat and gradual pressure. |
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i know, my weight setting is set pretty low i think, for this reason ; i need to try several times, when i get the first beat on the song, to keep becuz the needle skip one track backwards... |
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haha...that drawing is awesome |
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Things to try (do in this order as they're the easiest/most likely->hardest/least likely) 1.Make sure the stylus is clean and dust free. 2.Make sure the weight/balance of the tonearm is correctly calibrated (the manual will tell you how and the ortofon manual will give a recommended tracking range). 3. Use an anti-static brush to de-dust the vinyl 4. Clean the vinyl (either one of the spray and cloth kits, or, ideally a dedicated vinyl cleaning machine). 5. Check the tonearm hasn't been bent out of shape at all. 6. Check the styli head isn't misaligned. 7. Check the headshell isn't bent. 8. Sort the holes in the vinyl (most likely to loose if skipping- when they're too tight they're just hard to scratch/queue), backing sheet from stickers can be cut to strips and taped in place to make wholes more circular again. See Qbert's DIY skratching DVD for a "how to". 9. Be patient! If the vinyl is brand new, it's generally more skip-prone before it has been played a few times. 10. If the vinyl is warped you can try straightening it (put it in a mailer and then put that under a matress if you have a solid, rather than slat based bed works best for me). You hear all sorts of stories about people ironing them in sleeves etc. but really, do that at your own risk... (6&7 are not really applicable to the Concorde) Hope that helps. |
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:) thank you i do try. |
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some records do that until you deepen their groove by rubbing quite a bit, this, however, makes a fucky noise in the beginning - a lot of my hip hop records are this way warped records is a different issue from tone arms misbehaving - if you simply have warped records i have different advice |
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i would touch your records w/ a brush even though people seem to think its a good idea - that shit really hurts your vinyl qberts advice in that video is to stick a piece of paper in the oversized hole...its hilarious - as is his advice about fixing warped records or should i say professor flod's advice |
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that's why a a using of both a heat mat and pressure would be usefull: a) they work synergistically b) you won't melt your vinyl-unless you're stupid and c) you won't snap your vinyl |
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It could be a combination of warped records and other issues in his setup (that's why I listed all the other stuff). EG records that play fine even when scribbling them on my PDX2000s skip like mad during playback on my dad's old turntable. Only the slightly warped/brand new records skip, on his turntables, so it's easy to assume the records are the problem, but if his 'table was sorted they'd play fine. |
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be careful when applying heat to vinyl its tough to get a handle on it - and if the record is actually worth something i would try extended periods of pressure like placing heavy shit on it for a while ! |
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ortofon's, from my experience, LOVE to skip and are NOT rugged like shure m447's... hence why i use the latter http://www.zzounds.com/item--SHUM447 |
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Why's the sticking tape in the whole hilarious? Do you just mean his presentation is amusing, or that it's bad advise? If it's the latter, I have to disagree, it's not just on that video, tablists have been doing it for years and many of my records have been fixed that way. Xeron: I've yet to try heat based correction (an old hi-fi buff warned me against it and I've not got a record so warped I'm prepared to ruin it trying to correct it). I think something like yours, maybe a very thin electric blanket laid flat on a table with a couple of encyclopedias on top could do the trick... |
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from the 1000+ lps and 12s I got, only a handful are warped and or off-center. I don't scratch, so warped ones don't cause that much troubles. and for the record: concordes are awesome |
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Concorde Scratch (the pink ones) are the awesomest. I'm reluctantly facing the fact that I may have to get a pair of M447s (v cheap now £65 a pair! = less than 1 concorde scratch), instead of a pair of these. |
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yeah his advice all over that video is hilarious qbert is the man...he uses shure's also...wicked |
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i would advise using the m447's - from my experience they are the best on the planet - stanton's, ortofon's, whatever are all garbage theyre rugged, simple (not all gay looking like this) http://www.zzounds.com/item--ORTCCSCRATCH and they just plain rule holy shit $130 for one cartridge? hahaha you gotta be fucking kidding me hahaha |
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He used to use Shures... the same M447 for 2 years at one stage! I believe he mostly uses his signature Thud Rumble carts at the moment (essentially re-badged Ortofon Concorde Scratch carts). |
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im sure being sponsored messes up what you use - like how he used to use technics and now just uses vestax stuff egh...life goes on...i just know what works for yours trully |
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yeah my favs also.and i do scratch. |
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! as do i ! |
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but thats the std |
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what are you on about? I got ortofons, and they ain't never skipped (except for that one time I kicked the record player when drunk)! |
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haha kicking the record player...sweet ortofon's are garbage...imo...they seem to be really popular among people who go to "raves" though - i got into battle stuff cause i liked hip-hop etc before "rave" stuff, hence the use of shure products i think they're garbage...and they look ridiculous |
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I never listened to trance or anything like that.. I mainly listen to hip-hop, electronic stuff and jazz, and well.. I tested shures before I got the ortofons, and.. well.. the sound quality of the ortofons were superior, even with the concorde scratch model! and.. if you think a block is better than something that is actually designed a bit.. well... the only bad thing about the look of the concordes is the color, but none of that matters as they actually have better sound than the shures. the durability of an ortofon stylus is also supposed to be way better than a shure, but that's just something I read. I can tell you that my ortofons have lasted a really long time without me having to change the stylus yet, though! |
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