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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-11-09 03:27 [#01773375]
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What a beautiful track, it was a matter of time. Wow.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-11-09 03:30 [#01773376]
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Possibly my favourite track of 2005.
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nacmat
on 2005-11-09 03:31 [#01773378]
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yes
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-11-09 03:36 [#01773379]
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I've listened to this track soo many times I've lost count. I made an advent children amv for it at animemusicvideos.org.
Interesting fact: The violin parts are in the new Frankenstein movie.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-11-09 03:37 [#01773380]
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so, you're sure that it's my favourite track. great.
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nacmat
on 2005-11-09 03:46 [#01773382]
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yes
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imdex
from Argentina on 2005-11-09 04:50 [#01773414]
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i made that track
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-11-09 05:04 [#01773421]
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and there is even a video for it yes
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-11-09 05:05 [#01773422]
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although it's quite sucky sucky
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-11-09 05:23 [#01773425]
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it'd be a hell of a lot better if the strings weren't synthesised..
oh wait the beat just dropped
i love it <3
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-11-09 05:27 [#01773427]
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the whole album is like that - beautiful string parts and suddenly BOOM krschschr raaa venetian drill beat shit. and nobody knows what for...
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-11-09 05:37 [#01773434]
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thanks for the link... how can u tell they are synthed?
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Archrival
on 2005-11-09 05:41 [#01773436]
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Is that video official? Is there any official VS videos?
amazing track and I love the album =)
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-11-09 05:44 [#01773439]
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Sorry, I shouldn't have written "Synthed". Should've written "programmed".
There's a very obvious artificial quality in the strings section...... There's a sense of disconnection between the notes and it generally doesn't sound right. I was thinking it'd be a piece featuring just strings, in which case i would've rubbished it - but the drum programming makes it alright.
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imdex
from Argentina on 2005-11-09 05:46 [#01773444]
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yeah, is Synful Orchestra i have that synth and is the same sound, and also samples, both methods...
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-11-09 05:51 [#01773448]
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Well I've gotta disagree there, seeing as I've heard its original and composed song in a movie. Can't remember who the film composer was. Did you read my earlier post?
And imdex, synful orchestra blows in terms of sounding like a real orchestra, that program couldnt even come close to reproducing the violins in szamar.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-11-09 05:53 [#01773450]
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the strings are sampled
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-11-09 05:55 [#01773451]
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of course they are sampled
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-11-09 05:56 [#01773452]
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Then again film composers do sample alot and are keyboard friendly for just about any sound.
Bottom line is they sound awesome dammit.
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imdex
from Argentina on 2005-11-09 06:03 [#01773458]
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i say "also samples" too, both things, synthesis and real (cuted) samples in all album, listen :)
anyway and indeed, i love the shity synthetized (orch) sound + real samples in all that album, melodies and programmings are great, that's the important for me, just my opinion...
ah! and thanks for the vid, looks like an nice amateur work.
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imdex
from Argentina on 2005-11-09 06:05 [#01773460]
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no all the strings! fuck! jajaja!
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-11-09 06:08 [#01773464]
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Well, its a fact that allot of the orchestral moments in this album are not synthesized. And I'm guessing just about none of them were produced or written by snares himself. Much of it can probobly be found in other composers works, specifically hungarian composers or whatever country he went to visit. I was lucky enough to find that blip in frankenstein. Also, for the majority of this thread I misiterpreted 'sampled' as that could mean he just took other peoples works rather than synthesized ><
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-11-09 06:15 [#01773470]
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how can you tell ?
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-09 06:20 [#01773473]
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i havent read the whole of the thread basically cos im lazy, but i heard the majority of instruments were sampled form records with occasional violin part added and played by snares himself, no synthesised strings where used, least not according to the interview i read
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imdex
from Argentina on 2005-11-09 06:25 [#01773476]
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yes, i'm wrong, all orchestra sounds are 100% sampled :)
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grandma
on 2005-11-09 09:08 [#01773857]
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actually, all he did for that song is sample this
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zazen
on 2005-11-09 10:32 [#01773927]
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There really should be a FAQ about this somewhere.
A lot of the orchestral bits are samples of real classical pieces (the bit at 2:57 in Szamar Madar is especially familiar-sounding - from Elgar, as someone has said)
I think he has done a lot of chopping and editing in some tracks, but I don't think he's using any synthesised strings.
Apparently he plays the 'electric violin' somewhere - I think track 4 (Felbomlasztott ...) could be the one. But maybe that too is a sample. Perhaps someone knows.
But yes, a great track, one of my favorites this year too. A lot of skill and care went into his sample chopping and choosing.
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zazen
on 2005-11-09 10:45 [#01773933]
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*researches*
In this Wire interview: LAZY_TITLE
He describes how the sound is a combination of samples of famous composers, and samples of his own violin playing:
"These inspirations don't disappear, they eat me up until I act on them. I did pick up the violin, although I would say I am pretty shit, would record like 50 takes of a phrase until I got it right, again the beauty of samplers! I had played around with a violin bow on guitars and basses quite a bit in the past so the bowing was easy, it's the fingering that gets me, my hands are are maybe too big."
"I did sample Elgar's cello concerto. Sampled bits from here and there, even some Bartok. Sometimes intentionally, sometimes to accentuate my own playing."
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Sepix
from Major City (Austria) on 2005-11-09 12:02 [#01774035]
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and if someone asks where the hotlink is originally hosted - that would be us
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rasec
from mty (Mexico) on 2005-11-09 17:39 [#01774260]
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so i visited vsnares' website and downLoaded the video..
watching on fuLLscreen and my computer crashes!!
bLue screen!!!
f*ck!!
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thatne
from United States on 2005-11-10 02:01 [#01774401]
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I love it. He's done precisely what I would do, which is to marry the floaty shoegazer vocal together to the pristinely clear righteous drill.
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Sepix
from Major City (Austria) on 2005-11-10 04:15 [#01774442]
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the remix is even better :)
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2005-11-10 04:22 [#01774443]
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is it out yet?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-11-10 04:43 [#01774453]
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Hmmmm, that's pretty good. I like this album a lot more than some of his previous works like Ass Hate Dog Sputum and Child Corpse Socket Rape. It almost aproaches the intensity of his earlier Boiled Organ Nun Meat.
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Sepix
from Major City (Austria) on 2005-11-10 10:25 [#01774682]
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of course it is
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