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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-03 02:39 [#01768497]
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saw the last night. they're good. easy listening lounge jazz so not really something to move my brain, but a very nice listen. they must have played for over two hours as people just wanted more. i don't get our people - when cool alternative artists come usually about 50-200 people attend, but this time there must have been at least a 1000 and mostly young people. it's either e.s.t. are getting into mainstream or our people just prefer jazz to anything else.
jason moran with bandwagon opened for them and that was pretty great too. he's a funny bloke..
normally piano in jazz isn't my thing but both of them make it sound nice. although trumpet is where it's at :)
(and ribot's guitar..ohh)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-03 09:14 [#01768744]
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sounds awesome!
est is kind of pop-jazz-ish (which explains the turnout), but I defaintely like it. They've got a great sound going and it doesn't have to be the worlds most complex shit to move your brain.. in fact, minimalism is often where it's at.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-03 09:30 [#01768770]
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well, sure. i enjoyed it a great deal. infact those minimalist parts were the most intriguing for me. it's when they jam it that it isn't complex enough but that's probably just my high standards :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-03 09:31 [#01768773]
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damn, it's hard to find stuff good once you see spiritual unity live :D
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-04 07:44 [#01769578]
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not even jams have to be that complex. just listen to booker t and the mgs!
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-11-04 07:56 [#01769582]
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my dad got me into them. they're excellant. missed them last time they came to ireland, and according to a friend they were amazing.
i'm surprised you describe them as "easy listening lounge jazz".... especially in a live setting, they're meant to be very, very intense.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-04 07:57 [#01769584]
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it's still very easy listening.
but easy listening isn't necessarily a bad thing. it just means that more people find it instantly likeable.. I don't see why that would make anything bad...
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-11-04 08:11 [#01769599]
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true, that doesn't make it bad at all..
i'd call it accessible as opposed to easy-listening.. i'm not nit-picking, like, i just really find some of it very intense, emotionally...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-04 08:13 [#01769602]
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yeah, it's intense, but many things are intense and still easy listening.
I guess "easy listening" is one of those concepts that need to be purged, though this one doesn't need to remove its religious ties.. it should rather remove its negative status, as it actually is a "real genre," and not all things within that genre are bad.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-11-04 08:18 [#01769604]
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haha!
for sure :) i'm coming around to your idea of purging connotations now :)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-04 08:22 [#01769607]
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yeah, once you see how just the usage of a certain phrase or words can make both yourself and other people assume you're saying something bad.
in gorans case, I'm pretty sure he used it in the negative way, but there should be some secondary.. check-up or something (especially if I was wrong about goran using it negatively).. some other word that indicated the "charge." I'm not saying all words should be purged, but.. certain words need to loose it and start anew.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-11-04 08:24 [#01769608]
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still, how do you propose doing this? language change is a very hot and touchy subject... the only way i can see would be to create a new term...
but that term would most likely be used by the populus sarcastically and in an even more derogatory sense than the original. language is an aspect of the soul, and when governments or "authorities" fiddle with it, people get very agitated.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-04 08:30 [#01769613]
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we can't do it to ourselves, and a new term isn't the answer... it's more about teaching the next generation and, well.. for our sake.. we can only keep in mind the ones we manage to see and try to remember that the next time we read about an album and it is classed as "easy listening," we don't immediately dismiss it as being bad.
I'm not teacher, so I don't know how we would teach the new generations something like this, but a good start would be trying to stop using these concepts ourselves with the connotations they have, and maybe it'll come naturally or at least the kids won't pick up on it.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-04 16:57 [#01770033]
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i listen to a lot of easy listening music and i can enjoy it quite a bit. same goes for est. it's a bit too straiht for my likings but that doesn't mean it's bad, it's just that i prefer something more mind intriguing when it comes to jazz. they are still an excellnt band though, know exactly what they're doing and they're great at it.
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