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pietrobot
on 2005-11-02 18:50 [#01768337]
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the definition of idm?
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-11-02 18:56 [#01768339]
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no. IDM is a hobby. A name made by journalists followed by idiots.
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pietrobot
on 2005-11-02 18:59 [#01768341]
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i tend to disagree. it initially spawned as a mailing list devoted to the discussion of aphex twin and artificial intelligence era warp releases, then quickly grew into an acronym to describe a wide variety of abstract electronic music.
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corrupted-girl
on 2005-11-02 19:00 [#01768343]
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um.. um.. i.. um..
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-11-02 19:02 [#01768345]
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abstract how?
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oyvinto
on 2005-11-02 19:03 [#01768346]
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haha. i guess the readers got much wiser after reading that..
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pietrobot
on 2005-11-02 19:04 [#01768348]
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abstract in a way that doesn't follow normal convention.
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nacmat
on 2005-11-02 19:04 [#01768349]
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word
however its hard for me not to use the term...
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pietrobot
on 2005-11-02 19:05 [#01768351]
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oyvinto, we're not aiming to make our readers wiser, we're just throwing out some of the main ideas behind the acronym.
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oyvinto
on 2005-11-02 19:06 [#01768352]
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you wrote that?
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-11-02 19:07 [#01768354]
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8 ) you're lovely
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-11-02 19:07 [#01768355]
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'normal' what do you mean?
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pietrobot
on 2005-11-02 19:08 [#01768356]
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oyvinto, i did not write the article, check the intro. it was written by Stefan Koopmanschap at EMW
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-11-02 19:10 [#01768357]
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were you making fun of the article or do you agree?
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pietrobot
on 2005-11-02 19:10 [#01768358]
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jivverdicker, normal as in what you hear when you turn on your radio.
let me know if you have any other comments.
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rasec
from mty (Mexico) on 2005-11-02 19:11 [#01768360]
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is easier to repLy to a singLe message by cLicking the number that at the message's header...
;)
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rasec
from mty (Mexico) on 2005-11-02 19:11 [#01768361]
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... number that appears at the ...
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pietrobot
on 2005-11-02 19:12 [#01768362]
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i certainly agree that there are several definitions. if you actually read the full article (and i doubt that you did), you'll learn that there's an infinite amount of possible definitions.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-11-02 19:15 [#01768365]
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who are you saying didn't read the article and why?
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warpphex
from lurkston, ziltyland. (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-02 19:18 [#01768366]
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Oh man even the bat computer cant find a good enough name for idm !.
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pietrobot
on 2005-11-02 19:18 [#01768368]
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you asked if i wrote the article. if you read the article sub-heading you'd see it wasn't me.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2005-11-02 19:23 [#01768373]
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that article was kind of pointless.
navel-gazing if you will.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-11-02 19:25 [#01768375]
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that crappy article has wikipedia as a back up for that rubbish. Squarepusher, Aphex, Ae, the books, khonnor, snaresy etc try their best to express theirselves. Why do you feel he need to pigeon hole them together?
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pietrobot
on 2005-11-02 19:29 [#01768377]
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the article is not an attempt to pigeon hole any particular artists (notice there's no mention of any one particular artist), instead it attempts to gave a basic overview of the so-called genre.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-11-02 19:30 [#01768378]
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Why?
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pietrobot
on 2005-11-02 19:30 [#01768379]
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i wouldn't really take it so seriously, the article was not meant to give a true definition, but to question the possible definitions.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-11-02 19:34 [#01768380]
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As you say it wasn't meant to give a true definition and it doesn't. What questions has it posed to you and the 'normal' listener?
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pietrobot
on 2005-11-02 19:37 [#01768381]
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it has posed the question of what the true definition is by reflecting on the many possible answers that revolve around the term.
do you have anything else, jivverdick?
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nacmat
on 2005-11-02 19:38 [#01768382]
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I found it to be a nice reading... didnt really discover anything new to me... bu it was nice... I dont know... I just dont expect to much from any article... its more of an intro to a wider discussion... like the one we have here now...
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pietrobot
on 2005-11-02 19:42 [#01768383]
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nacmat, i think you nailed it.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-11-02 19:43 [#01768384]
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I'm sorry, I'm just having fun before I got to sleep.
you did say definition but it's shit.
sleep tight pietro you lying bullshit talking idiot.
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pietrobot
on 2005-11-02 19:43 [#01768385]
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definition, with a question mark. good night.
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pietrobot
on 2005-11-02 19:44 [#01768386]
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jivverdick, i'm not sure how serious you are, or if you just enjoy typing away in an attempt to dismantle this topic, but perhaps you'll have better luck tomorrow. cheers,
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rasec
from mty (Mexico) on 2005-11-02 19:47 [#01768387]
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in summary...
the articLe says:
i don't know what the fuck is IDM, so i'LL give pointLess facts and never reach a concLusion
and that's that!
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pietrobot
on 2005-11-02 19:47 [#01768388]
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rasec, it's simply an open discussion. if it has wasted your time, move on to the next topic. it's easy.
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rasec
from mty (Mexico) on 2005-11-02 19:51 [#01768389]
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it hasn't wasted my time at aLL, i found it (as nacmat says) an introduction to a wider discussion...
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nacmat
on 2005-11-02 19:53 [#01768390]
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maybe the ptoblem here, the cause of people bashing the article, is the fact that this has been discussed to hell in these forums
so people is kind of tired of the idm debate after 7 years of internet life
funny though that the debate is still alive
anyway why the aim to give music names? I guess men like to give names to everything... you need a name to sell a poduct
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-11-02 19:55 [#01768393]
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This site is a bit of fun. IDM is shit. Your radio show is lame to say the least. Try not posting your shitty shows for 2 months and we'll all see how popular your selections are.
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nacmat
on 2005-11-02 20:02 [#01768395]
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I will leave the building before the fire reaches me
but I must be missing something here... was there a previous personal fight between pietrobot and jivver?
if not, I cant understand why all the fire just for this article
once again, I think I only understand half of the story
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