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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-02 03:02 [#01767524]
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Last night I killed Bambi. Out for a ride on my motorbike, blasting through the country lanes and I saw something up ahead, I thought it was a cat dancing around in the road, but the glare of an oncoming car's lights meant I couldn't really make it out. I eased off the throttle a little bit, but you can't brake heavily round bends on a motorbike, particularly in the wet. So, as soon as I'm past the oncoming car, I flick my headlights back to full beam. About 20-30 foot in front of me is a small deer. I bring the bike upright, relax my arms and keep the throttle pinned (making the bike as stable as possible and preparing for impact). I'm glad I overcame the instinct to throw on the brakes/swerve, as that's the worse thing you can do and it'd make little difference as, like most animals, it played a frenzied game of chicken running back and forth in front of my front wheel. I hit it at about 55mph and felt it bounce off my boot. The bike was shaking and all over the shop for a second or two before I regained control. I slowed down, checked the bike was handling okay then turned round to face the grizzly task of stamping repeatedly on its head till it was dead. Thankfully it was dead by the 20 seconds it took for me to turn round. Looking at it, it appears the rear brake pedal acted as a knife and cut the deer nearly in half. It'd also explain why the brake lever is now bent out 45 degrees and my right boot was splattered in gore.
Bike is okay bar the gear lever, which I should be able to fix and a spare should only be £20 or so (and some rather amusing blood and fur splattered up the side of the engine and frame).
I took pics of the bike and deer, which I'll post once they're developed.
I'm considering getting a patch with a deerskull for my leathers and/or maybe decalling/painting something similar to the pic below onto the side of the bike, a bit like bombers do with bombs to show the number of runs flown.
In short, I'm very lucky and extremly grateful to be alive. In a parallel universe,
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-02 07:26 [#01767629]
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...in a parallel universe, I'm not.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-02 07:31 [#01767635]
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whoah.
I was expecting music
was it this bike?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-02 07:59 [#01767668]
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When i saw venison i thought you went hunting. This story is even better. This is quite amazing if you really think about it. Hitting deers can usually cause substantial damage. I am glad you were not hurt and that the bike sustained minimum damage.
This is one of those ultra rare experiences that life has to offer!
I for one move to use the skull/fur for further customization!
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-02 08:05 [#01767672]
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After reading that first post, I was hoping thatpicture would make an appearance.
Thanks, you made my day. :D
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-02 08:10 [#01767675]
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that picture can make all days ever!
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-11-02 08:16 [#01767681]
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...and this one too!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-02 09:06 [#01767727]
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Yes, I was chatting to the clerk in the petrol station afterwards and she said that when she had hit a deer, it ripped the bumper off her car.
I found out from an old bloke at a local pub that there were 3 herds of deer that live in the parklands near there (he used to be a gamekeeper) and that it wasn't uncommon for them to be in the road, although I'd never seen one there before. Perhaps I should ask for the council to put a "Deer Xing" sign up like Americans have?
Drunken Mastah: It is indeed that bike, except that it now looks more like this:
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-02 09:13 [#01767731]
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Yeah that would probably be helpful. Often times deers completely KO cars. Depending on how you hit them. Smashed windsheilds etc etc.
Those deer X-ing signs are great but unfortuneately they are not common enough (at least by me) then again i live in the city but we get deer on my parkway. There is usually around 5-7 of them a year that stays in a pack.
Kind of neat. I wanna grab my dad's glock and pop a couple off at them big mofos so we can have a variety of meats. Jerky and such. Deer is good! Yum!
Too bad they somehow have rights (?) :/ lol
But yeah i was really surprised at the end of the post that everything was overall ok and only minor damage. I would think since they can heavly damage cars that cyclists would get iced. Wow though thats a good story!
You shoud skin its face and put that skull right below the windshield!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-02 09:20 [#01767739]
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I'm toying with the idea of Ben Hur stylee spikes on either side of the front axle, to assit in the mincing up of any future suicidal animals/small children, before they reach the radiator/engine. Perhaps I could replace the front fender with a customised cattle plough like off the front of a wild west train?
If you're going to kill them yourself for meat, I hear the best thing to do is cut off the head, legs, disebowel it and hang it up, rather than the usual slit the throat and let it drain first (as you would for sheep/pigs/etc). This helps keep the blood in it and gives venison the characteristic darkly coloured meat.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-02 09:25 [#01767741]
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I'd say do it! Customization is always great!
But what can one really do with a crotch rocket? I more or less follow choppers and bikes like Harley. I technically have to love Harley as i am a Milwaukee kid.
But yeah i think of suicide shifters and sissy bars and such.
Man i want a bike.
I've actually never been hunting unfortunately. Never had the opportunity. But over the next year i want to take the required courses and do some Bow hunting and regular gun style. I would love to get some Elk or caribou
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-11-02 09:26 [#01767742]
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glad you are safe
hahaha @ the pic of the bloody bike, glad you can have some humor about it
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-02 09:31 [#01767746]
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DUDE YOU KILLED BAMBI!!!!!!!!!
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-11-02 09:39 [#01767755]
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your next
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-02 09:40 [#01767757]
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I will boil your dog!!!
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-11-02 09:44 [#01767761]
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Whos the chic in your avatar, i ill Fu*k herr.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-02 09:45 [#01767765]
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You have a wife cheater!
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-02 09:47 [#01767768]
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its charlotte church
lolercakes
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-11-02 09:48 [#01767770]
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NO !
i wouldnt ever do that, just talking the talk around the guys
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-02 09:48 [#01767772]
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There's lots you can do them, but admittedly it's not as much as with a cruiser or chopper. Technically it's a "streetfighter", which are far and away the most heavily customised bikes in UK/Europe (particularly Germany).
I like modding it, but it has to be done tastefully and with a purpose/function. Pointless "chavving up" is just tacky. I like the fact that bikers who aren't familiar with the model of my bike often mistake it for a non modified stock bike and ask what it is. I've even had a bloke who owns the same bike as me mistake it for a stock one, that's how subtly it's all done. I've actually changed loads on it (mainly to make it safer/more reliable/more comfortable/easier to work on) and it's pretty different to that old picture now. I've been chatting with a bloke who is a racer in the race series for my bike and I'm looking at a few performance mods, probably uprating the suspension all round first, as in spite of having been firmed up already, it still seesaws around corners at high speeds.
I do see the appeal of cruisers/choppers in somewhere like America and I'll definately do it on a Harley when I have a biking holiday there in a few years time. I reckon on Britain's roads (muddy, undulating, twisty) though, they're far from ideal and the cost/performance ratio is attrocious. If I were to get a bike that'd just be a stylish, naked, Sunday afternoon one, I think I'd go for a LAZY_Triumph Scrambler. Replica of the bike Steve McQueen uses at the end of, "The Great Escape". Oh yes!
I've never been hunting. I do shoot occassionally, but hunting/gun ownership is so regulated/expensive here it's not really worth it. Fox hunting (the main sort of hunting) is also now banned, but it still goes on fairly openly.
Recycle: Cheers! That pic exaggerates the quantities of gore/fur, but the locations of gore on it are accurate :)
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-11-02 09:51 [#01767776]
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bad LAZY_link_TITLE you have there
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-02 09:52 [#01767778]
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You don't want anything to do with her. She's from the school down the road from me and I was matey with some of her friends. She's none too bright and is your archetypal "vallys scally". My girlfriend has encountered her a few times in her job and she's as annoying IRL as you would think by her performance in interviews. Her ex-bf used to hang around my home town and was nothing but a thug (Jedi, Jonesy and Marshmello, he is one of the bunch who congregate over the knap)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-02 09:55 [#01767783]
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LAZY_REPLACEMENT_LAZY_LINK
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-11-02 10:01 [#01767790]
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charlotte church= isnt she a 16 year old celtic singer ?
CeriJC> good link, nice bike, very nice !
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-02 10:03 [#01767793]
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Lets try this. I have always been a fan of the fat boy. I'd be nervous about chilling at a red and it tipping over. LOL I saw that happen once to some poor guy and other people had to help him pick it up. Thats something i will never forget.
Come to the states for Sturgis. I just found something about it but am surprised at the fact its geared toward females. Not a bad thing... as its usually a bit of a sausage dominated thing. :D
LAZY_wtf/lol
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-02 10:09 [#01767803]
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lol the knap christ brings back memories
im a originally form barry island btw, i was supposed to go to bishop of llandaf with ole churchy wurchy but ended up selling out and moving up here to england. I might be moving down to cardiff in the near future, and i did nearlly end up living in an apartment next door to charlotte church.
also i think it should be clear she is my avatar because it is funny that her titties bounce around so much when just the other day she was an innocent rich bich choir girl... and you have to admit they do bounce lol
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-02 10:30 [#01767847]
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Ah, I knew you were a Taff, but I didn't realise you were from Barry. I was at Bishop, but Ms. Church went to Howells (private girls school) down the road. The tenuous way I knew (of) her was that I used to sing with some of her friends.
It is funny the way she has re-invented herself. Being honorary English scum now (j/k- I'm living in England too at the moment) and hence "out of the loop", so to speak, you probably didn't see the pictures of her that were doing the rounds a while back? Basically she picture messaged them to her boyfriend, who then lost his phone and the cheeky chappy who found it proceeded to send them to all his mates and like some beautiful self-evolving system, they spread around all the locals, but sadly don't seem to of surfaced further afield.
Mail me if you're back in Cardiff as I'm moving home soon too and we can go for a drink/do some tracks.
Virginpusher: Ah, Screaming Eagle, the only Harley Tuning stuff that doesn't look gash/make them break down :) Big bike wise, my girly wants me to get a Honda Goldwing/Pan European (I think the pan is called something else in America), as it's a lot more comfortable for touring. The fear of dropping it/inability to filter put me off a bit.
I've dropped mine and picked it up myself, so it's reassuring that should I ever have to post-crash/whatever, I know I can.
If I was to get a Harley, I'd personally go for the Street-Rod. A more sports-oriented version of the V-Rod and aimed at the European market. If we're talking more loosely, I've been toying with the idea of a Buell (ex-harley employer makes sportier bikes, using harley engines) City-X as my next bike. Lack of spare parts/unreliability is putting me off though.
As for Sturgis, it looks good. I agree it's largely male dominated (I think it's 96% here) I only know a couple of girls who ride and they tend to take it very seriously and are fairly quick. I suppose if they can put up with the stick/stigma then it's fairly important to them. I'll try to get t
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-11-02 10:33 [#01767851]
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i just got done reading all of that (thouroughest posters)..
but you need to finish the story please
so Ms. Church has grown up a bit
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-02 10:36 [#01767854]
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sounds nice man id like that. going down for a weekend soon just to pick up my nan, bring her up here to stay for a bit.
its looking like my mums hubby will be buying an apartment down there as a holiday home type thing in tiger bay (which is now all new and fancy) and i will move in ther epay half the mortagage in exchange for him getting to stay whenever he wants (which wouldnt be that often), so all in all pretty sweet deal but it all depends on how japan goes :)
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-11-02 11:55 [#01767923]
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This sounds like the end of Easy Rider and Bambi mixed together
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-03 02:25 [#01768492]
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Recycle: Ah, it was nearly done, all that got cut off was: I'll try to arrange it so I get to Daytona Beach for the bike week too. I was talking to a couple of old bikers a few weeks back and they said that even if you had no interest in customs, it was worth going for the novelty of seeing so many bikes in one place and that due to the sheer numbers you actually get examples of all sorts of bikes there.
Taff: Sounds awesome. Tiger bay is one of those areas you wouldn't of touched with a barge pole 10 years ago and now it seems to be the Islington of Cardiff. Insanely, Barry docks is going the same way too.
Dannn_: Maybe when I'm rich and famous and they make movie of my life, we could have a VJ style mashup of the two films to some spoken word dialogue of the first post? :)
Everyone:
I got the photos of the bike/the remains of bambi back from the shop today. Not great, but given the weather conditions/night time/fact it was a disposable camera, they show enough. The ones of bambi even feature a Silent Hill style grainy quality.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-03 04:03 [#01768530]
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yer who would of thought barry would become inhabitable although i wouldnt live there what with ahving grown up in gibensdown :/
My family have moved back down though which is odd, my nans living in a flat in gibby and my uncles living near cywmtalog school(im sure i spelt that wrong)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-03 04:12 [#01768538]
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It's not so bad, Gibby is still a bit rough, but the rest of the town is okay. Broad street now looks like Cardiff's Caroline Street (AKA chippy lane), with a slew of cheap and nasty takeaway stores catering for drunks at throwing out time.
Good try with the spelling, I think it's Cwmtalog.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-03 04:19 [#01768544]
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i was down there recently only breifly though we was staying out at 3 cliffs out near the mumbles so we went to barry for the day was wierd as hell being back especially as i left with a police escort :/
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-03 05:20 [#01768573]
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"went to barry for the day was wierd as hell being back especially as i left with a police escort :/ "
Nice. I take it you had troubles with some of the local hoods and it was for your own protection?
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-03 05:35 [#01768580]
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yer hehe we had to go round the block a few times incase they followed us :/
was a long time ago now mind, was still unsettling though
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-03 05:42 [#01768591]
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"[spam] i killed Bambi"
i like your sense of humour :)
drive safely, it's autumn and roads are slippery.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-03 06:04 [#01768617]
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Shall do. Some old duffer at work has just had a go at me about this, saying I should of braked hard/tried to avoid it. Needless to say, he doesn't have a bike licence, has never ridden on a bike, doesn't understand the physics of a motorbike and of course, he wasn't there, but of course he still knows better than me which course of action I should have taken *Rolls eyes*. I'd love to see him bin a bike at 50, trying in vain to avoid a pheasent/fox/etc.
Taff: Nasty. Glad you made it out of the ghetto. It always makes me laugh whenever I'm in a new city and people say, "such and such bit is rough" then you see it and think, "this ain't a patch on Gibby".
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-03 06:08 [#01768623]
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lol TOTALLY
i mean i know i was from there so maybe im biasd but seriously if the UK had a american style gangland ghetto it would be gibby. They send police there to train cos there is an abundance of crime, well its not as bad now as it was.
i was watching eye spy on itv (a random police camera show) and low and behold there was my cousin kicking in superdrug shop front window just for a laugh whilst his might clambered up the town hall and proceeded to move the clock arms around
i laughed, i eman what else can ya do hehe
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-03 06:13 [#01768626]
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post pics of gibby please.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-03 06:20 [#01768630]
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i dont have any ill see if there are any online or ill get mum to take soe on saturday when she goes down to pick up my nan
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-03 06:25 [#01768632]
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I'm from a backwater town called Sleaford. Nobody has ever heard of it, got a massive smack problem to boot.
Lovely.
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Jedi Chris
on 2005-11-04 05:56 [#01769498]
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Had this simply just been an unfortunate accident where you were telling us how you nearly came off your bike, then I think you'd probably quite a lot of sympathy. However, the sensational way you have 'bigged' this up, and made it out to be cool and clever I find somewhat stomach churning personally.
Yes it was unfortunate that this happened, but such is life. But really you could have called the RSPCA and they could have 'dealt' with the deer in more humane way than stamping on its head - thats what bothers me most I think.
As a few others here might agree, many here are immature and think that things like this are funny, but to be honest Ceri, when you post things like 'some rather
amusing blood and fur splattered up the side of the engine and frame', it just disapoints me. I would have thought better of you as a friend, and as a moderator of this site.
Finally I just hope that you come to your senses and realise that to even consider posting pictures of such nature, is in bad taste and you'll not do it.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2005-11-04 06:02 [#01769502]
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It could be me but I think it's very unlike you to sensationalise killing an animal and even intending to post pictures of the gory mess :\. A young animal vs. a motorcycle isn't what I'd call an 'even match'.
Stamping on its head is rather inane if you ask me. Leaving the deer to die there would have been more acceptible.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-04 06:16 [#01769519]
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Chris and eXXailon, you're both good mates, but did you actually read my first post, or did you just skim read it and misinterpret the details?
"I slowed down, checked the bike was handling okay then turned round to face the grizzly task of stamping repeatedly on its head till it was dead. Thankfully it was dead by the 20 seconds it took for me to turn round."
I didn't, thankfully, have to stamp on its head. It was dead by the time I turned the bike round. I wasn't trying to make out the action of stamping on it to be macho. As I pointed out, I was apprehensive and really didn't want to have to do it, hence my describing it as "fac[ing] the grizzly task". I am really glad that it wasn't neccessary, but I maintain that a mercy killing would have definately been in order if it wasn't already.
Yes, if it had been still alive, I could have called the RSPCA. However, I think it highly unlikely that their response time would have been less than half an hour (think how long the police take). It would of been suffereing all the time waiting for them to come out.
Is it the principle of killing an (already dying) animal you object to? Do you consider the shooting of fatally wounded horses to be inhumane too?
Of course I'd rather the whole thing hadn't happened, if for no other reason than the damage of a gear lever on my bike. You (and some other people) seem hung up on the fact I that I don't feel guilty about it. I'm sorry, but I don't in the slightest. It ran in front of me and I did the correct (check your highway code) thing and didn't wuss out and put the bike into a wall/the trees at speed and kill myself. You could argue that I should have been going even slower than the 55mph I was doing when I hit it, but that's an irrelavance. At a lower speed, the bike would have been less stable and more prone to crashing. Also, the animal would've been hit less forcibly meaning that instead of a "didn't know what hit it" instant death, it would have suffered a lot more.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-04 06:23 [#01769525]
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As to the blood and gore on the engine being amusing. It did make me laugh when I saw it. It drove home how lucky I was that it wasn't me in bits down the road.
I think that unless you've had an exceptional near-miss like this, you can't comprehend how elated and grateful it makes you feel to survive. Any "joy" in the posts that comes across is a reflection of that feeling.
It won't make me stop riding. Someone was killed on that section of road by a deer when they were in a 4x4(!) a couple of years ago, animals running out is a sad reality of countryside life. These things happen, life is inherently dangerous and ultimately fatal. I don't have a deathwish, but I don't think you should wrap yourself up in cotton wool either.
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Jedi Chris
on 2005-11-04 06:29 [#01769530]
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I wonder if you'd laugh if it had been a small child that had stepped out in front of you?
I'm not one of your parents, and you are old enough to ride your bike in certain scenarios as dangerous as you do (and we both know that is the case).....I just have this fear in the back of my head that one day its gonna be me writing a topic about why you are no longer with us because of some horrific accident.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2005-11-04 06:31 [#01769531]
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I did read the whole post. That's exactly what made me reply. Though you are only quoting the parts that don't matter all that much. It's stuff like:
"I took pics of the bike and deer, which I'll post once they're developed." (Deer nearly cut in half, do you really think people want to see that if it's not for sensation value? Bit like rotten.com if you ask me)
"...maybe decalling/painting something similar to the pic below onto the side of the bike, a bit like bombers do with bombs to show the number of runs flown. "
"and some rather amusing blood and fur splattered up the side of the engine and frame)."
that makes your story seem like a tabloid-for-bikers article. Seriously though, I'm not saying this to start a row or something, but you have to agree that 'spicing it up' like this is rather useless. It might not have been a human being, but it is still a breathing living creature of sized bigger than your average bird/insect/rodent
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2005-11-04 06:32 [#01769532]
Points: 6745 Status: Lurker | Followup to eXXailon: #01769531
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-04 06:45 [#01769543]
Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to Jedi Chris: #01769530 | Show recordbag
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No, I'd of been horrified had a kid ran in front of me and was cut in half. However, much like when that kid ran in front of my car earlier in the year, I wouldn't feel guilty about it. If you have right of way and something runs/drives into your path, not only is it not your fault, but there's not a lot you can do about it. You can argue you should go slower than normal to compensate for the possibility of things running out (which means absolutely everywhere: it's not unheard of for deer to cross motorways and pedestrians aren't just in cities, they can be in country lanes). However, when that kid ran out, I was doing 20 in a 30, and slowed to 10 before hitting him. I don't know if I mentioned to you about a horse running the wrong way round a roundabout into my path a few months back, which I had to emergency stop for? There's no way of accounting for these things.
Chris: I recall you laughing when you told me about running over that dog that ran out in front of you a couple of years back. How exactly is a deer worse than a dog? You might argue that a deer is more of a wild/farmed animal and no one will miss it, whereas a dog is someone's pet and hence more of a loss to someone.
The people who own the deer (yes the heards concerend belong to a local landowner) have been extremely negligent in allowing them out of the grounds and onto the road. If any human is responsible for the deer's death, it is them and not me. Hell, there is even precident (cow farmer a couple of years back left a gate open on a country lane) where, if I could be bothered (and had the damage to my bike/me been more severe, I would be), I could claim damages from them for improper enclosure of their animals.
eXXailon: On a lighter note, it hopefully will be in a "Tabloid for bikers", I'm sending it the story to "Bike" magainze, in the hope that a few people will read how I dealt with it and adopt the method when animals run in front of them.
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