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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2005-10-31 21:29 [#01766695]
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i am pleased to see that i stirred something up
im just gonna sit back and smoke my post work bowl and dig the discussion, savvy
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-31 21:32 [#01766696]
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yeah, it probably wouldn't stop them from drinking. weed usually calms people down, although im not sure whats the effect on drunk people..
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-10-31 21:34 [#01766697]
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tune into the cut for smoke
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mimi
on 2005-10-31 21:41 [#01766701]
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oh whoops, that was meant to be a follow-up to r40f, anyway :)
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2005-10-31 21:44 [#01766702]
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Highlights from Marijuana Myths, Marijuana Facts nice and informitive site
a VAULT/library of cannabis info
Study Shows Long Term Marijuana Users Healthy Mr David Reilly, chief investigator for the study, said the average profile for the interviewees was of regular marijuana use from the age of 17, lasting for 19 years. Some 94 per cent smoked it at least twice a week, and 60 per cent smoked it daily, with a typical quantity being two joints a day of the potent flowering heads of female plants.
"We have nothing startling. We don't see any evidence of high psychological disturbance among the people, we see very little evidence of health problems except for respitory problems," said Mr Reilly
Heavy Long-Term Marijuana Use Does Not Impair Lung Functi... April 3, 1997, Los Angeles, CA: Habitual marijuana smokers do not experience a greater annual rate of decline in lung function than nonsmokers, according to the latest findings by researchers at the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA) School of Medicine. The results of the eight-year study appear in Volume 155 of the American Journal of Respiratory & Critical Care Medicine. Dr. Donald P. Tashkin, who headed the study, is one of America's foremost experts on marijuana smoking and lung function.
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2005-10-31 21:52 [#01766706]
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i personnally feel that pot is a safer drug than aspirin or beer because you can not OD or get killed by it in any normal circumstance.
now, i smoke pot because i feel it is an enhancer. i know there is a few members here who have had girlfriends, heck! they may have a girlfriend now!... anyways, you know what it is like have to watch some hienous disney movie. with pot, suddenly lilo and stitch isn't so horrible and can be quite amusing at times...... but without reefer that movie so terrible.
i just chill out at home with my girlfriend and we smoke pot.
dig, no one gets hurts. its a habit thats cheap to afford compared to drinking.
for example. 120 bucks (Canadian) will get me Friday and Saturday wasted, whereas the same amount will get me a half ounce of weed and last over two and a half weeks.
and thats why i dont drink anymore
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2005-10-31 21:54 [#01766707]
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dont forget to vote for legalization
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mimi
on 2005-10-31 21:58 [#01766708]
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hrmm, or you could just pick out a better movie...
seriously though i have no qualms about legalizing marijuana at all. and i am surprised that there is even much of a fuss over it, especially in a society that is as drug saturated as the united states is already. drug companies have so much sway in our government that it is not even funny. in recent years many horribly dangerous drugs have been prescribed to children and nobody seems to show any remorse but when it comes to legalizing marijuana, something that seems just so harmless, people become very uptight all of the sudden.
i just think that some of the arguments that some people use for and against legalization are ridiculous.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-10-31 22:03 [#01766710]
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well said and i agree.
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2005-10-31 22:08 [#01766713]
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the government would make a few hundred billion a year if they legalized, taxed, educated, private and corporate licienced, and kept it reasonably regulated and taxed.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-10-31 22:20 [#01766718]
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write up a proposal and give it to your local representative. the more you can include about money and the government making money, the better.
in the meantime, i will rudely scoff at your claim of "a few hundred billion a year" and chalk it up to the pot smoke choking your brain of its last few cells.
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2005-10-31 22:24 [#01766722]
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sure they could make billio for example
at mccleans site they say bc producers make 2 billion a year
we have, what, like 13 provinces... so you do the math
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-10-31 22:32 [#01766731]
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ok, 2 x 13 = 26 (billion). where's the other $274 billion?
not to mention, those figures are completely meaningless when you are talking about projected tax money as opposed to the current illegal drug economy.
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2005-10-31 22:36 [#01766732]
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ah i see, my math seems to be particulary bad tonight! true dat on the other point
but in my eyes i could see the government making quite a bit more than the illegal producers even if the same amount of people smoked pot
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2005-11-01 09:54 [#01766988]
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well people, there's still time to vote for legalization! we are only at sixty two percent
cooome ON!!!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-11-01 09:57 [#01766991]
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it's not a real vote, why do you care?
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2005-11-01 10:03 [#01766992]
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im an obsessive freak if you read any of my posts in this yinder post you would have came to the quick conclusion of " this man is reefer mad!! "
so in short and short your inquiry is now thusly solved!
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-11-01 10:04 [#01766993]
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cannabis will never be legalized in the united states. i'm probably more convinced of this fact than anything else i can think of.
this is why i'm not voting; it serves no purpose whatsoever.
otherwise i generally favor legalization.
if anyone cares...
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2005-11-01 10:07 [#01766996]
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yeah, in the usa they are still "at war" with pot
here in canada the worst that will happen is you lose your stash!
and the general mentality of canadian society has been loosening up over the last decade by leaps and bounds.
for example, a few years ago our prime minister put the papers through for decriminalization, and it was big news, but not in the bad way
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-01 11:55 [#01767131]
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i just drank my first ever cup of pot coffee. it tasted awful and i'm waiting for something to happen.
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2005-11-01 13:09 [#01767204]
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thats fucking wicked!! i've never a had a body high, but its supposed to be way better than a normal high
let me know how it goes
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2005-11-01 14:21 [#01767260]
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61% Say Legalize! what do you say?
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2005-11-01 14:37 [#01767270]
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Pass the weed, Dad this is such a wicked article!! i love mccleans! they present both sides in a very unbiased form.
i recommend a read yall!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-01 14:38 [#01767273]
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I say: shut up, you insane pothead.
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2005-11-01 14:40 [#01767275]
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thats not very nice, im not insane, im eccentric!
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-11-01 15:07 [#01767286]
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my congressman told me smoking weed causes crime, so i'm voting "no."
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2005-11-01 15:28 [#01767309]
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some pothead(s) stole my weed last week..a whole fucking plant nicely grown by my mum, cut and dry....aaargh: there goes a whole year off free smoking....I hate the fact that smoking pot increases crime by a few people..mostly addicts btw....but still I say: Legalize it!
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2005-11-01 16:00 [#01767320]
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Now, this is just an opinion, but it happens to be the truth:
1) Nobody should be forced to do anything, or NOT to do anything, in any way in any relation to anything, 2) unless his behaviour would otherwise impinge on others' liberties. (So murder is still unlawful for a reason. Too bad war isn't.)
As far as the "legalization" matter goes--- It's ridiculous, people are not answerable to anybody except themselves in what they do in relation to themselves, and legalization simply means leveling the playfield, cancelling the harm that was in the arbitrary bureaucratic choice in favour of some "policy" (i.e. personal opinion of a bully).
Legalization is not a privilege, it's simply an apriori right, at least if human rights are of any concern.
Just to be clear here, I think there is no argument that would justify outlawing any drug or substance or guns or jaywalking or anything. A stupid law is a stupid law is a stupid law.
It's all hypocritical unless we in the same stroke legalize heroin, opium, coca, datura, magic mushrooms, all sorts of 99% home-tilled alcoholic beverages, angel dust, rat poison, you name it. I'm all for it. And I'm tired of these "but MJ is not so terrible, it should be declassified as a hard drug" arguments, since this implies you'd be happy just with a partial liberalization. I wouldn't.
Or maybe I would, but I wouldn't be free. And that's the point.
People aren't imbeciles unless they're treated as such.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-11-02 07:05 [#01767612]
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i mean, i'm voting "no" when my congressman comes up for re-election.
convictions cause convicts.
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2005-11-02 10:17 [#01767823]
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wacky yankees
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swears
from junk sleep on 2005-11-02 11:53 [#01767920]
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I hope pot is never legalised. It would please far too many pricks who wear jester hats, listen to The Levellers and make paper-mache effigies of George W Bush to take to anti-globalisation marches with their stinking hippy friends.
I prefer cocaine.
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