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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-10-26 21:03 [#01762205]
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This is just too funny.
Spectrasonics, the company that makes the "Atmosphere" sound module plug-in, has sued NI, because there are 3 patches in Absynth 3 that are in atmosphere.
Why? Because one of the guys who was working on making the presets for Absynth, was also working for Spectrasonics, and he accidently included the Atmosphere patches in Absynth.
Now, the best part is, a lot of the synth sounds in atmosphere ARE MADE IN ABSYNTH!!!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAH
The guy made the sounds in absynth, put it in Atmosphere, spectrasonics release atmosphere, and then the guy accidently leaves those patchs in Absynth.
It just cracks me up.
Whats the result? NI is recalling EVERY absynth 3 from stores right now, as it represses new versions without those 3 patches. Apparently its impossible to buy Absynth right now.
Just thought Id share this.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-10-26 21:05 [#01762208]
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Spectrasonic has some cool software. Especially the atmosphere. which i was never able to install :/
really wanted to try it.
Interesting bit of news though
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-10-26 21:06 [#01762209]
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that's weird...
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grinningcat
from london (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-26 21:20 [#01762220]
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mental! got a link
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-10-26 21:36 [#01762224]
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they're talking about it in the absynth subforum on the NI message board
dont know if you have to be registered to view it or not
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pigster
from melbs on 2005-10-26 21:38 [#01762225]
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hey thats great news! : D well, probaly not, but i find it nice
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-10-26 21:56 [#01762227]
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Stupid Spectrasonics bastards - I've never used anything of theirs and now I never will. Can you imagine what this is costing NI? It pisses me off that NI is forced to waste resources doign this when they could be, say, paying programmers to modify the Reaktor core to facilitate FFT.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-10-26 22:24 [#01762230]
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atmospheres doesnt look like its worth 400 dollars
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-10-26 22:59 [#01762234]
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Stylus RMX is prob. one of the most brilliant pieces of software released in years.
Though, the lawsuit thing is kinda lame. Until something is "officially" documented on either's site, I'm inclined to think this is a load of bunk.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-10-27 00:13 [#01762241]
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the title of this thread made me laugh... it must be the first topic do be categorized under [SUED], haha.
that's a pretty funny, almost ridiculous story by the way.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-10-27 00:49 [#01762250]
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the funny thing is, NI probly have a clause in their registration that dissalow people from using their software to make sample packs without permission (a fairly standard clause). I know spectrasonics does. And spectrasonics has done a couple of soundbanks for native instruments. Spectrasonics is probly going to get their asses counter-sued by Native Instruments.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-10-27 02:11 [#01762266]
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Both spectrasonics and Native instruments are at the forfront of computer music because they make usefull and quality tools.
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csl
on 2005-10-27 02:59 [#01762274]
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jesus christ. why bother?
don't spectrasonics also require you to credit them on any commercial use of their plugins? (as you don't actually own the plugins you've shelled big bucks on, but license the sounds from spectrasonics. what a joke.)
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-10-27 03:09 [#01762276]
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damn. i wouldn't mind buying absynth right now
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-10-27 03:53 [#01762289]
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Where did you get that information from. I have been lurking around google for about 30 minutes trying to find it, and can't see it anywhere...
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-27 04:03 [#01762291]
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YES! I love it when expensive soft-synth companies get stuck in big shit.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-10-27 06:47 [#01762399]
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You gormless twat, it's not like they're microsoft. Anyone who sells product to a market as notoriously broke-ass and tight fisted as musicians has got to be making it on narrow margins.
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-10-27 06:50 [#01762402]
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thats bullshit...youre telling me the people behind cubase arent full and warm at night?
then get a different job...
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csl
on 2005-10-27 06:56 [#01762408]
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are you kidding? why do you think cubase gets a paid update every year - so the devs can put food on the table and still keep their job. you think they work there for the money? they enjoy coding music apps.
this is a pretty low blow from spectrasonics.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-10-27 06:57 [#01762412]
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If they weren't they'd get another line of work.
I'm just saying no one's going to be mistaking Stephan Schmitt for Warren Buffet anytime soon. NI doesn't have the resources to put together decent documentation for Reaktor - they ended up paying one of the main Reaktor users on the NI forums, Rick Scott, to rewrite some of their documentation.
A company like that has to think twice before allocating resources and if there's a court case they'll feel the pinch.
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2005-10-27 07:19 [#01762434]
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software syntheziser distributors/companies putting pricetags on their products.. a software synth should fucking well not be as expensive as a hardware dito. in many cases they aren't but they're still too expensive.
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-10-27 07:22 [#01762440]
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i bet everyone in here steals software...haha...thats the best part of this post
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-10-27 07:23 [#01762442]
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Link to the thread at NIs forum and has a link to an arti...
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-10-27 07:30 [#01762455]
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Try finding a hardware synth that does what Reaktor or Absynth do, for ANY price. What company could afford to even prototype such a thing in hardware?
People who complain about software prices have never done serious development of a quality product or realize the pain that goes into supporting multiple OSes, dumb users, debugging, managing a team, working with other developers... these things take time and money! It's not the same thing as throwing together some shitwank in Synthedit and selling it through paypal for 20 bucks.
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-10-27 07:32 [#01762460]
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did i say i dont buy software?
you shouldnt assume...you make an ass out of yourself
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-10-27 07:35 [#01762462]
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"absynth the keyboard"
hmmmm
I like the sound of that!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-10-27 07:35 [#01762463]
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It'd cost as much as ten Buchlas!
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2005-11-02 08:39 [#01767712]
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i was talking about comparing models, software and hardware.
ofcourse reaktor has no equivalent in the hardware market for obvious reasons. and i didn´t think of that when i wrote my previous post, so you are absolutely right!
fleetmouse 10p pennyworth 0p
cheers!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-11-02 10:17 [#01767824]
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I pay for all my software.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-02 10:32 [#01767848]
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Even Windows?!
j/k I know ou use OSX :)
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