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offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-10-26 21:03 [#01762205]
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This is just too funny.

Spectrasonics, the company that makes the "Atmosphere" sound
module plug-in, has sued NI, because there are 3 patches in
Absynth 3 that are in atmosphere.

Why? Because one of the guys who was working on making the
presets for Absynth, was also working for Spectrasonics, and
he accidently included the Atmosphere patches in Absynth.

Now, the best part is, a lot of the synth sounds in
atmosphere ARE MADE IN ABSYNTH!!!!!

AHAHAHAHAHAH

The guy made the sounds in absynth, put it in Atmosphere,
spectrasonics release atmosphere, and then the guy
accidently leaves those patchs in Absynth.

It just cracks me up.

Whats the result? NI is recalling EVERY absynth 3 from
stores right now, as it represses new versions without those
3 patches. Apparently its impossible to buy Absynth right
now.

Just thought Id share this.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-10-26 21:05 [#01762208]
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Spectrasonic has some cool software. Especially the
atmosphere. which i was never able to install :/

really wanted to try it.

Interesting bit of news though


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-10-26 21:06 [#01762209]
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that's weird...


 

offline grinningcat from london (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-26 21:20 [#01762220]
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mental! got a link


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-10-26 21:36 [#01762224]
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they're talking about it in the absynth subforum on the NI
message board

dont know if you have to be registered to view it or not


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2005-10-26 21:38 [#01762225]
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hey thats great news! : D
well, probaly not, but i find it nice


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2005-10-26 21:56 [#01762227]
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Stupid Spectrasonics bastards - I've never used anything of
theirs and now I never will. Can you imagine what this is
costing NI? It pisses me off that NI is forced to waste
resources doign this when they could be, say, paying
programmers to modify the Reaktor core to facilitate FFT.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-10-26 22:24 [#01762230]
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atmospheres doesnt look like its worth 400 dollars


 

offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2005-10-26 22:59 [#01762234]
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Stylus RMX is prob. one of the most brilliant pieces of
software released in years.

Though, the lawsuit thing is kinda lame. Until something
is "officially" documented on either's site, I'm inclined to
think this is a load of bunk.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2005-10-27 00:13 [#01762241]
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the title of this thread made me laugh... it must be the
first topic do be categorized under [SUED], haha.

that's a pretty funny, almost ridiculous story by the way.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-10-27 00:49 [#01762250]
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the funny thing is, NI probly have a clause in their
registration that dissalow people from using their software
to make sample packs without permission (a fairly standard
clause). I know spectrasonics does. And spectrasonics has
done a couple of soundbanks for native instruments.
Spectrasonics is probly going to get their asses
counter-sued by Native Instruments.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-10-27 02:11 [#01762266]
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Both spectrasonics and Native instruments are at the
forfront of computer music because they make usefull and
quality tools.


 

offline csl on 2005-10-27 02:59 [#01762274]
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jesus christ. why bother?

don't spectrasonics also require you to credit them on any
commercial use of their plugins? (as you don't actually own
the plugins you've shelled big bucks on, but license the
sounds from spectrasonics. what a joke.)


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2005-10-27 03:09 [#01762276]
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damn. i wouldn't mind buying absynth right now


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-10-27 03:53 [#01762289]
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Where did you get that information from. I have been lurking
around google for about 30 minutes trying to find it, and
can't see it anywhere...


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-27 04:03 [#01762291]
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YES! I love it when expensive soft-synth companies get stuck
in big shit.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2005-10-27 06:47 [#01762399]
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You gormless twat, it's not like they're microsoft. Anyone
who sells product to a market as notoriously broke-ass and
tight fisted as musicians has got to be making it on narrow
margins.


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-10-27 06:50 [#01762402]
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thats bullshit...youre telling me the people behind cubase
arent full and warm at night?

then get a different job...


 

offline csl on 2005-10-27 06:56 [#01762408]
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are you kidding? why do you think cubase gets a paid update
every year - so the devs can put food on the table and still
keep their job. you think they work there for the money?
they enjoy coding music apps.

this is a pretty low blow from spectrasonics.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2005-10-27 06:57 [#01762412]
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If they weren't they'd get another line of work.

I'm just saying no one's going to be mistaking Stephan
Schmitt for Warren Buffet anytime soon. NI doesn't have the
resources to put together decent documentation for Reaktor -
they ended up paying one of the main Reaktor users on the NI
forums, Rick Scott, to rewrite some of their documentation.


A company like that has to think twice before allocating
resources and if there's a court case they'll feel the
pinch.


 

offline S M Pennyworth from East Timor on 2005-10-27 07:19 [#01762434]
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software syntheziser distributors/companies putting
pricetags on their products.. a software synth should
fucking well not be as expensive as a hardware dito. in many
cases they aren't but they're still too expensive.


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-10-27 07:22 [#01762440]
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i bet everyone in here steals software...haha...thats the
best part of this post


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-10-27 07:23 [#01762442]
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Link to the thread at NIs forum and has a link to an arti...


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2005-10-27 07:30 [#01762455]
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Try finding a hardware synth that does what Reaktor or
Absynth do, for ANY price. What company could afford to even
prototype such a thing in hardware?

People who complain about software prices have never done
serious development of a quality product or realize the pain
that goes into supporting multiple OSes, dumb users,
debugging, managing a team, working with other developers...
these things take time and money! It's not the same thing as
throwing together some shitwank in Synthedit and selling it
through paypal for 20 bucks.


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-10-27 07:32 [#01762460]
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did i say i dont buy software?

you shouldnt assume...you make an ass out of yourself


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-10-27 07:35 [#01762462]
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"absynth the keyboard"

hmmmm

I like the sound of that!


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2005-10-27 07:35 [#01762463]
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It'd cost as much as ten Buchlas!


 

offline S M Pennyworth from East Timor on 2005-11-02 08:39 [#01767712]
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i was talking about comparing models, software and
hardware.
ofcourse reaktor has no equivalent in the hardware market
for obvious reasons. and i didn´t think of that when i
wrote my previous post, so you are absolutely right!

fleetmouse 10p
pennyworth 0p

cheers!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-11-02 10:17 [#01767824]
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I pay for all my software.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-02 10:32 [#01767848]
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Even Windows?!

j/k I know ou use OSX :)


 


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